USC sanctions

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#677
SpringBokVol said:
I will say this, Kiffin is a master at PR. I mean a real master. Might be the thing he is best at. Now I see why he interviews so well.
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I loved his answer when asked how USC football would come back after all the sanctions. He answered by pointing out that the last time they had come back from a 3 yr post-season ban to be successful.

Nothing like pointing out the history of cheating at your school to make things seem better.
 
#679
#679
milohimself said:
Also, the AP reportedly will not revote on the '04 season, meaning SC will still be able to claim a MNC for that season.
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It was just reported on ESPN2 that the BCS intends to vacate USC's National Championship leaving no team as winner.
 
#680
#680
milohimself said:
What the hell do you expect him to say? Any coach would try and put a positive spin on the situation for recruiting.
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I agree completely. He has to say it, but the way he says it to me is the thing. So convincing. He must win parents over left and right.
 
#681
#681
Lane Kiffin just realized he left his woman (Tennessee) for a woman with STD's (USC)! lol This is great!!! I wonder how long it took Lane to help Coach O understand rules and ethics as reported in the investigations. This is so wonderful!
 
#682
#682
Man if I was Mike Hamilton, I would leave a voice mail with Lane and Ed something like this:

"Lane/Ed, Mike Hamilton here. Sorry to here about the news, but could you do me a favor and fax us over a list of your junior and senior players. 'Preciate it. Thanks and have a good day."
 
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rbroyles said:
It was just reported on ESPN2 that the BCS intends to vacate USC's National Championship leaving no team as winner.
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That's the thing... The AP matters just as much as the BCS here. There have obviously been split national titles forever. So long as the AP decides not to revote, SC will probably still go down in the books as the '04 national champs, in spite of their vacated wins.

The BCS national title is only the "official championship" to those who believe the BCS is the best system for determining it. I, for one, choose not to hold the BCS as the single standard, but think of the AP as an equally credible poll.
 
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milohimself said:
That's the thing... The AP matters just as much as the BCS here. There have obviously been split national titles forever. So long as the AP decides not to revote, SC will probably still go down in the books as the '04 national champs, in spite of their vacated wins.

The BCS national title is only the "official championship" to those who believe the BCS is the best system for determining it. I, for one, choose not to hold the BCS as the single standard, but think of the AP as an equally credible poll.
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Very true.....PLAYOFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#685
#685
ok sign 11 players with the highest paid recruiters in college football. that will come out to about 300 k a player for the next three years....lol
 
#686
#686
From the cover letter the 'AA sent to Tim Floyd: "The committee did not name you in any findings of violations or impose a penalty upon you."
 
#687
#687
Burhead said:
Wonder if USC's appeal will do anything...
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Hopefully, usc's appeal will drag on for another "9-10 months" and further drag monte's kid's program into the abyss of mediocrity and irrelevance.

It would make a nice Christmas gift for me.
 
#688
#688
Blah, blah, blah. We insulated ourselves from the external stuff so we should not be responsible.
 
#689
#689
Volfan8282 said:
I'm not trying to pick an argument, but what was stated in the report against Orgeron and Kiffin?
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Specifically, the football program that they run will have 30 less scholarships over the next three years and NO bowl game for the next two years !!!

Other than that, they were not mentioned...specifically.
 
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#690
volwarrior33 said:
Here is how the scholarship reductions will affect USC:

This is assuming USC loses ZERO players to attrition, career ending injuries, or early entry to the NFL Draft. So in reality, things will be much worse than this. It also doesn’t take walk-ons into account.

2010: 109 total players on the roster, 75 of those will be players who were awarded a scholarship out of HS or JUCO. The other 34 are either walk-ons, players who have earned a scholarship, or transfers. They still get 85 scholarships for 2010 so 10 of those 34 will be awarded a scholarship.

2011: 103 total players on the roster, 76 of those will be players who were awarded a scholarship out of HS or JUCO. The other 27 are either walk-ons, players who have earned a scholarship, or transfers. The have 75 scholarships available meaning one player must give up their scholarship. This is assuming the maximum allowed 15 are signed for 2011 and no Juniors declare early.

2012: 85 total players on the roster. 73 of those will be players who were awarded a scholarship out of HS or JUCO. The other 12 are either walk-ons, players who have earned a scholarship, or transfers. They have 75 scholarships available meaning they have room to give 2 walk ons scholarships. This is assuming the maximum allowed 15 are signed for 2011 and no Juniors declare early.

2013: 79 total players on the roster. 75 of those will be players who were awarded a scholarship out of HS or JUCO. The other four are either walk-ons, players who have earned a scholarship, or transfers.They have 75 scholarships available meaning all 75 will get a scholarship. This is assuming the maximum allowed 15 are signed for 2011 and no Juniors declare early.

2014: 45 returning scholarship players. The players in the incoming 2010 Freshman class who are redshirted and stay all five years will add to this number. If all 20 players did this then USC would need to sign 20 players in 2014 to get to the 85 mark. If none of the 2010 class is still around in 2014, USC will need to sign 40 players in 2014 to get to the 85 mark. Most likely it will be around 6-12, meaning USC will need a class of around 28-34 to fill the 85 scholarships.

Here is the breakdown by class for the 2010 season, including walk ons (number of scholarship players in parentheses):
RS SR: 15 (10)
SR: 6 (4)
RS JR: 22 (8)
JR: 11 (10)
RS SO: 15 (7)
SO: 6 (6)
RS FR: 13 (10)
FR: 21 (20)
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Your Kiffin/ USC love affair is bizzare for someone who has a ut logo as one of their fav 3 teams.
 
#691
#691
volmanbill said:
I loved his answer when asked how USC football would come back after all the sanctions. He answered by pointing out that the last time they had come back from a 3 yr post-season ban to be successful.

Nothing like pointing out the history of cheating at your school to make things seem better.
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I bet the kids he will be recruiting were watching that early 80's Trojan team bounce back from cheating. No Problem at all huh..lol
 
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That's the thing... The AP matters just as much as the BCS here. There have obviously been split national titles forever. So long as the AP decides not to revote, SC will probably still go down in the books as the '04 national champs, in spite of their vacated wins.

The BCS national title is only the "official championship" to those who believe the BCS is the best system for determining it. I, for one, choose not to hold the BCS as the single standard, but think of the AP as an equally credible poll.
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I do not agree, in my mind that national championship is history. AP or no AP.
 
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milohimself said:
That's the thing... The AP matters just as much as the BCS here. There have obviously been split national titles forever. So long as the AP decides not to revote, SC will probably still go down in the books as the '04 national champs, in spite of their vacated wins.

The BCS national title is only the "official championship" to those who believe the BCS is the best system for determining it. I, for one, choose not to hold the BCS as the single standard, but think of the AP as an equally credible poll.
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Can you say ASTERISK.
 

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MUR73 said:
I bet the kids he will be recruiting were watching that early 80's Trojan team bounce back from cheating. No Problem at all huh..lol
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Kiffin will not have any trouble recruiting through and after this probation IMO. He won't be pulling in top classes in the next year or two more than likely, but I don't look for them to struggle in the recruiting department post 2011.
 
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milohimself said:
That's the thing... The AP matters just as much as the BCS here. There have obviously been split national titles forever. So long as the AP decides not to revote, SC will probably still go down in the books as the '04 national champs, in spite of their vacated wins.

The BCS national title is only the "official championship" to those who believe the BCS is the best system for determining it. I, for one, choose not to hold the BCS as the single standard, but think of the AP as an equally credible poll.
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Since the BCS does actually settle at least a semblance of a champion on the field of play, I humbly suggest your choice is flawed.
 
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MUR73 said:
Your Kiffin/ USC love affair is bizzare for someone who has a ut logo as one of their fav 3 teams.
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I really have no idea what you’re talking about. I was simply posting info about the scholarships, only someone with very limited intellectual capacity could interpret that post into a positive for CLK.
 
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