USU Aggies Spring Ball Video

#51
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1. All of the USU fans Ive seen have said yall lost a lot of talent. Esp in the OLine.

2. How did he prove himself as a recruiter? I know he landed 1 3*. The way you prove yourself as a recruiter is by beating out other programs for the guys you take.

3. Take a look at your last 8-10 years. How can YOU be so arrogant?

4. Youre talking about an early spread that nobody can seem to find.

1. We lost 3/5ths of our O-line, yes. Doesn't mean we lost "talent", the guys replacing them were all more highly rated recruits and most have 2+ years in the program. Our talent level overall has only increased.

2. His recruiting class was as good as GA's, if not better. We aren't used to beating a ton of BCS schools for recruits, but I think Wells beat more than our previous coach did.

3. Sure, but the last 3 years I'll take our performance over Tennessee's, easily.

4. Yeah I can't find it either, in fact I only read about it on this board.
 
#52
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1. We lost 3/5ths of our O-line, yes. Doesn't mean we lost "talent", the guys replacing them were all more highly rated recruits and most have 2+ years in the program. Our talent level overall has only increased.

2. His recruiting class was as good as GA's, if not better. We aren't used to beating a ton of BCS schools for recruits, but I think Wells beat more than our previous coach did.

3. Sure, but the last 3 years I'll take our performance over Tennessee's, easily.

4. Yeah I can't find it either, in fact I only read about it on this board.

3 years, yeah. But not the last 10. 03, 04, 06, 07 were good years for us.
 
#53
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Sorry but there is no comparison between your team and ours as far as size and athleticism. Watch the videos of our scrimmages and practices and yours then be objective. Talent don't always win but if it does this game it shouldn't be very close.

Our 1st teamers are plenty big and strong. They looked just fine against USC last year, Wisconsin the year before.

We rely on a combination of motor and brains in addition to brawn. USU fans aren't going to walk around like our players are far more talented or naturally gifted than anyone (we do have a few future NFL players, though. Kyler Fackrell is rated as the #2 OLB in the country for the 2016 draft), but we make up for it with how hard we work on/off the field, in the film room, etc. Our guys know they have to outwork everyone else, and that's exactly what they've been doing the past 3-4 years :good!:
 
#54
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3 years, yeah. But not the last 10. 03, 04, 06, 07 were good years for us.

Absolutely, but if you have to go back 7 years to find a good year, usually you don't bad mouth a team that has had some pretty good success the past 3 years. (not saying you have, just others here and who have come over to our message board)
 
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I personally think the Aggies have a great chance of beating us pretty bad.......in their damn dreams!!! Aggie football is equivalent to a undersized middle school team.
 
#56
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Our 1st teamers are plenty big and strong. They looked just fine against USC last year, Wisconsin the year before.

We rely on a combination of motor and brains in addition to brawn. USU fans aren't going to walk around like our players are far more talented or naturally gifted than anyone (we do have a few future NFL players, though. Kyler Fackrell is rated as the #2 OLB in the country for the 2016 draft), but we make up for it with how hard we work on/off the field, in the film room, etc. Our guys know they have to outwork everyone else, and that's exactly what they've been doing the past 3-4 years :good!:

Jalen Hurd is predicted to be the number one pick in 2018 what of it?
 
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That would matter if you had the same coach or players that you had then. You don't. The coach who turned your program is now in Wisconsin. Most of the players have ended their careers over the past 2 years.

I was not surprised on that video to see less athletic players than UT has or that we're used to seeing in the SEC. I WAS surprised to see a team that looked to be poorly coached. The schemes look sound but execution looked bad... at times extremely bad.

That's not the sole basis of my opinion though that video hardened my view. I said that on talent UT should win by 17+ BEFORE watching. UT is faster, bigger, likely stronger on the whole, quicker,.... Your hope is in the possibility that you have better coaching or the "bounces".

I have been critical of Jones... ask people here... but the first part does not appear to be true. The second part we'll just have to see.

If you think that your roster dependent on a lot of new players is close to UT's which also depends on a lot of new but very talented players... then you might want to prepare yourself for disappointment rather than worrying about me.

None of that is worth than a minimal advantage when it comes right down to it. Coaching and talent are what matters most. While I am still not completely sold on UT's staff and especially the DC... UT is MUCH more talented than USU.



You need Keeton to keep it from being a laugher... but he's not good enough to win it by himself and NONE of the WR's he had to build his career to this point are on your current roster. In fact, the RB's are gone too, right?

Neither of the QB's who played in that video are good enough to keep USU in the game.

But the biggest problem for USU is UT's WR's vs your DB's. Your WR's had no trouble at all getting open... some trouble getting the ball delivered or making the catch but no trouble getting open. Imagine your WR's with better hands, more speed, bigger, stronger, quicker... with more of them... and that's what you get with UT.


Git em sjt. :focus:
 
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UT and BYU are the 2 toughest teams on USU's schedule this year. Followed by Arkansas State, Boise St., Colorado St and UNLV.

Chances are, they dont beat the best teams they play.
 
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I think this game could possibly be close late in the 3rd only because of the new players we have, and just the shock of being in Neyland. My prediction is by the middle of the 4th we will be up by 4 touchdowns or so.
 
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Our 1st teamers are plenty big and strong. They looked just fine against USC last year, Wisconsin the year before.

We rely on a combination of motor and brains in addition to brawn. USU fans aren't going to walk around like our players are far more talented or naturally gifted than anyone (we do have a few future NFL players, though. Kyler Fackrell is rated as the #2 OLB in the country for the 2016 draft), but we make up for it with how hard we work on/off the field, in the film room, etc. Our guys know they have to outwork everyone else, and that's exactly what they've been doing the past 3-4 years :good!:

Butch won't let anyone outwork us.
 
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#61
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I think this game could possibly be close late in the 3rd only because of the new players we have, and just the shock of being in Neyland. My prediction is by the middle of the 4th we will be up by 4 touchdowns or so.

Thats a little much.
 
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UT and BYU are the 2 toughest teams on USU's schedule this year. Followed by Arkansas State, Boise St., Colorado St and UNLV.

Chances are, they dont beat the best teams they play.

Both games will be toss ups, think we take one of Tenn/BYU. At least 3 of BSU/CSU/ASU/UNLV, BSU on the road will be tough though.
 
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One would have said the same about the WKU game that they thought ole Bobby was gonna whoop up on us. I just feel like we are nervous for no reason. We gonna whoop dey azzz

The same WKU that out gained you guys 392-383? We won't turn the ball over 5 times in a 6 play span, sorry.
 
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One would have said the same about the WKU game that they thought ole Bobby was gonna whoop up on us. I just feel like we are nervous for no reason. We gonna whoop dey azzz

How often do win by 28 against teams of this talent? We only beat USA by 7 and only beat UK by 13. USU would be both of those teams. Im not saying we dont win, but I dont think itll be by 28+ points. Maybe 10-17 because I think our depth will win out. Our 2nd team WRs and RBs are more talented than most of the 1st team guys theyve faced. But 28+ is a lot. Remeber, we have to stop their offense too
 
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How often do win by 28 against teams of this talent? We only beat USA by 7 and only beat UK by 13. USU would be both of those teams. Im not saying we dont win, but I dont think itll be by 28+ points. Maybe 10-17 because I think our depth will win out. Our 2nd team WRs and RBs are more talented than most of the 1st team guys theyve faced. But 28+ is a lot. Remeber, we have to stop their offense too


None the less it's not gonna be by 3-6 points. I don't give a crap who they have in Vegas. SEC vs. Community College
 
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:loco:

Our WR corps will be much better than last year, which was led by 2 guys who were 4 year seniors with solid hands but not much else. We return Parade All-American out of HS in 6'5 Junior Brandon Swindall (led the team in TDs last year), Ronald Butler who worked his way up from Juco transfer (offers from Iowa State and Texas) to starter by the end of the season (started the final 2 games) and Jojo Natson (small but quick/shifty, led the team in catches).
Oh, Sorry. You're right. You guys are the Alabama of the west in terms of talent... I am literally quaking in my boots as I read your response. :lolabove:

Swindall was a 5.5 3* according to Rivals and a 3* according to 247. Rivals lists offers from New Mexico and Tulsa besides you. That means he was pretty much passed over by the whole Big 12. Millwood is a major HS program in OK. Gerald Jones who played for the Vols was from there. His ranking was NOT because no one knew about him.

Butler was a 2* JUCO according to Rivals. Again, he played in the CA JUCO/CC system... so he wasn't lost on the recruiting svcs. He did not have a commitable offer from Texas. Not sure about Iowa State... though they're not a program that recruits well enough to help your cause.

Natson is another 2*. He's from Ft Lauderdale so again he isn't a 2* because no one knew about him. FL is probably the most heavily covered state by the recruiting svcs.

I always say that the recruiting rankings mean "something" but not everything. On average, they're accurate though they often miss very good players or over-rank others. It is possible that one of these guys was missed. It is extremely unlikely that all of them were.

RBs were also 2 4 year guys last year who played because of experience. Our best RB started the first few games before slightly tearing his ACL (and continuing to play on it). He has rehabbed the past 6 months and will be cleared to be back 100% in 3 weeks.
So you think you have us cornered with a RB coming off an ACL?

I think it's funny how you seem to know so much about our team. Any Aggie fan would tell you that despite losing guys from those teams (several NFL players), our talent level has only increased.
Oh, wow. Glad you let me in on the secret that fan bases of mid-majors with only a recent spat of success are such rock solid evaluators of talent. IF the guys you have now are better... then it seems they would have been better than the guys you lost and now dismiss as lesser talents, right? You lost ALOT of production.

Speed wise, strength wise, and our depth has improved across the board over the past 4-5 years. Matt Wells proved himself as a HC and recruiter last year, and not a single person who knows what they're talking about would say coaching has gone down.
Dude. It doesn't take any kind of real expert to see how sloppy that spring game was. Proved himself as an HC and recruiter? You won 8 reg season games against a schedule that even UT's bad team last year would have beaten up on. But he did land the 106th ranked recruiting class with ONE 3* as its highest rated player... so you do have that.

Keep thinking you'll kill us with all of that talent. I think your guys' struggles are pretty well noted the past 8-10 years, but I'm not overly surprised at how arrogant you guys are.
Arrogance or whatever. The fact remains that UT is a MUCH more talented football team than USU. Maybe you'll get breaks. Maybe Wells will outcoach Jones. But on talent, UT wins.

Vegas will make the spread about 3 points (some say early lines have USU favored, but those numbers are based off last season in which USU would have been favored by more than a touchdown -http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/ )
What odds did Vegas give Mizzou of winning the SEC East or Auburn playing in the NC game last year?

Tell you what (since oddly the opinions of gamblers seem to mean so much to you folks in Mormon country) go back and see how they viewed the UT v Cal game to open the 2006 season. IIRC, the "experts" had Cal winning by multiple scores. I believe the oddsmakers had them -8 or so. UT beat them 35-18 in a game nothing like as close as the score.

Asking "experts" or oddsmakers to look at YOUR team and ASSUME that you have continued to find 2* diamonds in the rough to "reload" with... is a pretty tall order.

Lastly though, sjt you truly are talking out of your ass. At least do everyone a favor and quit talking about USU like you know anything about them. You're giving people too much false hope, and the fanbase shouldn't be disappointed with a small margin of victory or even a loss.

:crazy:

Based on talent. UT is a 17+ pt better team. Classy insults aside... that's just pretty much where we sit right now. Your WR's, QB's, and DB's looked bad and poorly coached in that spring game. Enjoy the summer believing that they can drop passes, throw bad passes, and blow coverages vs UT in August and still keep it close.
 
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How often do win by 28 against teams of this talent? We only beat USA by 7 and only beat UK by 13. USU would be both of those teams. Im not saying we dont win, but I dont think itll be by 28+ points. Maybe 10-17 because I think our depth will win out. Our 2nd team WRs and RBs are more talented than most of the 1st team guys theyve faced. But 28+ is a lot. Remeber, we have to stop their offense too

WKU last year was more talented than USU this year. UK is more talented and more than likely would have won 8 games vs USU's schedule last year.

The worst thing for them is the matchup with UT's WR's. This isn't a USA '13 like game. This is more of a Cincy '12 type of game. The comparison to Cal '06 works too though USU is nowhere close to as talented as Cal was.
 
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:loco:

Our WR corps will be much better than last year, which was led by 2 guys who were 4 year seniors with solid hands but not much else. We return Parade All-American out of HS in 6'5 Junior Brandon Swindall (led the team in TDs last year), Ronald Butler who worked his way up from Juco transfer (offers from Iowa State and Texas) to starter by the end of the season (started the final 2 games) and Jojo Natson (small but quick/shifty, led the team in catches).

OK. I'm sure you got WR guys who can ball. And without the usual, SEC smirking, I'll share what we have.

Josh Malone 6-3 202lbs (FR)) - guy just runs and catches balls and has played his way into either starting or being rotated in frequently. [Vols fans, just now noticed Josh M. looks a bit like Justin Hunter. Reports are he plays like him too]

Marquez North 6-4 / 221 (SO) - was a very good last year without understanding routes to run and other techniques, yet made big impact. This year, he's ready and is in monster mode. Pray we throw no jump balls.

Jason Croom
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]6-5 / 234[/FONT] (SO) - while he didn't play as well as North last year, he was getting there before being hurt in the Kentucky game. This WR built more like a TE can also jump. So once again, pray we throw no jump balls. He's on record for saying he's studying big NFL WRs to learn how to use his size to screen out and basically bully DBs so the ball is always his. His attitude is, "You Just Don't Quarrel With The Quintronic Man."

Von Pearson 6-3 / 181 (JR) - JUCO transfer who all spring has people referring to him in the same breath as Cordarelle Patterson with a Barnum and Ringling Brothers Circus Greatest Show on Earth playing style.

Josh Smith 6-1 / 197 (SO) - This guy gets open all the time no matter who is defending him. he just shakes loose again and again. His problem last year was holding onto balls that either hit in the numbers or the hands. Last year he was stellar in practice but it didn't translate to the field. This year it will change because he knows with the new guys here he will ride the bench if he drops ball. He's motivated to the point he had an interview that cause people to gasp and say, 'did he really say that!?" Said what? Here it is. "I'm White. They didn't bring me here to drop balls." He's got moxie and I think he means business this year. I wouldn't be surprised if he leads the team in reception yards.

Jacob Carter 6-0 / 190 (RS SR) - this guy would without a doubt start for your team. He was a walkon that earned a scholly. He'd very likely start for the likes of Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, either of the Mississippi schools, and even Texas A&M. He's just overshadowed by the WR giants and talent on the team. I doubt the coaches will keep him off the field because when in, he is effective. Kind of like Josh Smith with better game time hands.

We have others but in my view, we haven't see enough of them to say much about them.

RBs were also 2 4 year guys last year who played because of experience. Our best RB started the first few games before slightly tearing his ACL (and continuing to play on it). He has rehabbed the past 6 months and will be cleared to be back 100% in 3 weeks.

RBs were also 2 4 year guys last year who played because of experience. Our best RB started the first few games before slightly tearing his ACL (and continuing to play on it). He has rehabbed the past 6 months and will be cleared to be back 100% in 3 weeks.

Rather than bore you, let me just say:
We got heavy and fast freshman bull that has already shouldered his way into being the starter is the if main back wavers at all. The main back is a motivated bull in his own right, not exceptionally fast but shifty as well. We got two other hard hitters, one who would be a main back on some other team. If he was on yours, you guys would singing Hallelujah and bring on BYU. I don't know why he's staying when clearly he could play elsewhere. That's Beck for Vols fans who don't know. Then we got a Devrin Devil that despite his small size plays both RB and WR. He's just slippery and quick and has forced the coaches to plan on his being in games. Plus we got a secret weapon in a Maryland transfer that seems as much a devil as Devrin.



I think it's funny how you seem to know so much about our team. Any Aggie fan would tell you that despite losing guys from those teams (several NFL players), our talent level has only increased. Speed wise, strength wise, and our depth has improved across the board over the past 4-5 years. Matt Wells proved himself as a HC and recruiter last year, and not a single person who knows what they're talking about would say coaching has gone down.

Well, it's interesting that we're seeing talent that use to be routine at Tennessee once again coming here. Butch is shocking not just us fans but the SEC, and gettingnational notice for his recruiting prowess as well. Even now, we have quality early commits. But what is here now will be on display with you guys. And it's not just 1 or 2, here and there, but quite a bit.

Keep thinking you'll kill us with all of that talent. I think your guys' struggles are pretty well noted the past 8-10 years, but I'm not overly surprised at how arrogant you guys are.

If Jones and company can coach up the OL and DL, whether or not the riotous talent that isn't even on campus yet provide help, we will be dangerous. The Beast of the East is stirring already and will be fully awake soon. You really don't want to poke that dragon.

Vegas will make the spread about 3 points (some say early lines have USU favored, but those numbers are based off last season in which USU would have been favored by more than a touchdown -http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/ )

All Vegas knows is how fleece money from suckers.

Lastly though, sjt you truly are talking out of your ass. At least do everyone a favor and quit talking about USU like you know anything about them. You're giving people too much false hope, and the fanbase shouldn't be disappointed with a small margin of victory or even a loss.

No comment.

:crazy:

So says the weatherman, the whether man says.
 
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#73
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Both games will be toss ups, think we take one of Tenn/BYU. At least 3 of BSU/CSU/ASU/UNLV, BSU on the road will be tough though.

Mighty "arrogant" for a fan of a team that lost as much production over the past two years as yours... and has only recently had success against VERY weak competition.
 
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WKU last year was more talented than USU this year. UK is more talented and more than likely would have won 8 games vs USU's schedule last year.

The worst thing for them is the matchup with UT's WR's. This isn't a USA '13 like game. This is more of a Cincy '12 type of game. The comparison to Cal '06 works too though USU is nowhere close to as talented as Cal was.

This USU team is faster than last years WKU team. And thats where we get screwed from time to time. The only reason we beat WKU by 28+ was because of the 5 turnovers in 6 plays.
 
#75
#75
Woodsmanvol, You forgot Croom who will be an absolute nightmare for a team like USU and Johnson.
 

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