Ut Gets first round bye

#27
#27
Brewerw said:
Not that I see him doing that haha but yea... I could see that.

BTW Catspause seems to think that they should get Donovan haha.
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Yeah it's a total meltdown over there. Here's my favorite post by far:

"Call Cal first. He wanted the job last time and would have brought Rose. If we could get him, he could bring Cousins and maybe Wall. JM stays. Miller stays. Hood comes. Orton comes. We are turned around and a Sweet 16 team or better next year. Final four before his first class graduates. Imagine the teams he could put together here."
 
#28
#28
Sabanocchio said:
Hat, I just don't understand why you give Gillespie a pass on everything that you convict Pearl of. (had to slide the law reference in there) I'm talking coaching and non-coaching. Did this guy get you some tickets at some point or are you angling for them in the future? :wink:

I get the criticisms of Pearl and you are more often right than wrong, but there's an old Chinese proverb that says you can't make Chicken dinner out of chicken $#** or something like that. You call it making excuses for Pearl, I just call it being realistic about the situation. I'm sure Pearl is pleased as punch just to be making the Tourney with this group.
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He recruited them.
 
#30
#30
jfrancis04 said:
You're kidding right? How can you compare recruiting a player to winning the lottery? I believe it was Donovan and his staff who worked hard to recruit those players to convince them to come to Florida. It wasn't like he just drew their name out of a hat. Obviously he saw the potential that they could be great players and clearly his work paid off. They did turn out to be great players. I'm still trying to figure out how you equate that to winning the lottery. Poor example imo.
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It's not a hard comparison to follow. He recruits a class of guys who can really play. In a spot of incredible fortune, they all come from families weel off enough that they can put the NBA off for an extra year. Thus, Donovan got an extra national title. Otherwise, his resume is less impressive than Steve Fisher's.
 
#32
#32
hatvol96 said:
It's not a hard comparison to follow. He recruits a class of guys who can really play. In a spot of incredible fortune, they all come from families weel off enough that they can put the NBA off for an extra year. Thus, Donovan got an extra national title. Otherwise, his resume is less impressive than Steve Fisher's.
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"He" being Donovan. Exactly. End of discussion.
 
#33
#33
TennNC said:
this is some of the highest grade BS you've ever thrown out on here.
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No it's not. speights is another undersized guy trying to be a center.

They would still play the worst defense in the conference with their bevy of midgets and white men. Call it what you want, but you can't make the rest of that team what they aren't.
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#34
#34
hatvol96 said:
It's not a hard comparison to follow. He recruits a class of guys who can really play. In a spot of incredible fortune, they all come from families weel off enough that they can put the NBA off for an extra year. Thus, Donovan got an extra national title. Otherwise, his resume is less impressive than Steve Fisher's.
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Too bad you had to explain that twice.
 
#35
#35
jfrancis04 said:
"He" being Donovan. Exactly. End of discussion.
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Way to disregard the most important part of the post. Then again, I would expect nothing less from someone slobbering over a guy who has followed up two national titles with back to back NIT trips.
 
#36
#36
hatvol96 said:
Fallen hard? I'm pretty sure I remember the guy Donovan replaced having the Gators in the Final Four.
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how could Kruger follow that FF with 2 very poor seasons (12-16 - really?), supposedly at the height of that program's recruiting at that point?
 
#38
#38
BigPapaVol said:
No it's not. speights is another undersized guy trying to be a center.

They would still play the worst defense in the conference with their bevy of midgets and white men. Call it what you want, but you can't make the rest of that team what they aren't.
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r u really going there? really?

okay.

speights would be the best post player and best overall player in the sec, and it wouldn't be close. he'd fill the most gaping hole on that team.
 
#39
#39
TennNC said:
how could Kruger follow that FF with 2 very poor seasons (12-16 - really?), supposedly at the height of that program's recruiting at that point?
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I'm pretty sure they made the NCAA Tournament the year after the Final Four appearance. Gator fans are still waiting for their next appearance under Donovan.
 
#40
#40
TennNC said:
how could Kruger follow that FF with 2 very poor seasons (12-16 - really?), supposedly at the height of that program's recruiting at that point?
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Look at the senior guards be lost and the utter lack of prior tradition. Took some time to find more. Donovan had Kruger's start to fall back upon. Kruger had none.

There is no remote excuse for Donovan to be this sorry today, but I'm sure you're about to find one.
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#41
#41
hatvol96 said:
Way to disregard the most important part of the post. Then again, I would expect nothing less from someone slobbering over a guy who has followed up two national titles with back to back NIT trips.
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Hat...dude...get over yourself. I'm hardly "slobbering" over Donovan. No way do I think he's the best coach in the game or even top 10; however, you can't chalk up two national titles to "winning on the lottery." Betting on a horse race or something may have been a better example, but "winning the lottery" is hardly a good example for what Donovan accomplished. Like you and I both said, HE recruited those players and one a national championship. Then, just because they happen to be in good financial shape and win another one, you chalk it up to luck? Give me a break man.
 
#42
#42
jfrancis04 said:
Hat...dude...get over yourself. I'm hardly "slobbering" over Donovan. No way do I think he's the best coach in the game or even top 10; however, you can't chalk up two national titles to "winning on the lottery." Betting on a horse race or something may have been a better example, but "winning the lottery" is hardly a good example for what Donovan accomplished. Like you and I both said, HE recruited those players and one a national championship. Then, just because they happen to be in good financial shape you chalk it up to luck? Give me a break man.
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It's absolute good fortune. If all of the UNC guys, May, Felton, et al, had been in financial shape to stay, Florida doesn't win the first one.
 
#43
#43
hatvol96 said:
It's absolute good fortune. If all of the UNC guys, May, Felton, et al, had been in financial shape to stay, Florida doesn't win the first one.
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I had the same discussion with a NC fan a couple years ago. I don't see how people can deny that.
 
#45
#45
TennNC said:
r u really going there? really?

okay.

speights would be the best post player and best overall player in the sec, and it wouldn't be close. he'd fill the most gaping hole on that team.
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I'm going there and what on earth makes you think was making that kind of leap from last year to this year?

Filling one hole at UF might have helped, but the post isn't their greatest weakness. Athleticism is murdering that team and the current center is the beat athlete on the team.

Watch more, talk less.
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#46
#46
jfrancis04 said:
Yeah it's a total meltdown over there. Here's my favorite post by far:

"Call Cal first. He wanted the job last time and would have brought Rose. If we could get him, he could bring Cousins and maybe Wall. JM stays. Miller stays. Hood comes. Orton comes. We are turned around and a Sweet 16 team or better next year. Final four before his first class graduates. Imagine the teams he could put together here."
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Hahaha just like bammers, incredibly delusional. Its pretty fun to read their message boards :)
 
#47
#47
hatvol96 said:
It's absolute good fortune. If all of the UNC guys, May, Felton, et al, had been in financial shape to stay, Florida doesn't win the first one.
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Agree 100%. You just can't compare to winning the lottery though. Otherwise, we could make a case for every champion in every sport just "winning the lottery." It always takes a little luck.
 
#48
#48
BigPapaVol said:
Look at the senior guards be lost and the utter lack of prior tradition. Took some time to find more. Donovan had Kruger's start to fall back upon. Kruger had none.

There is no remote excuse for Donovan to be this sorry today, but I'm sure you're about to find one.
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so, the FFs and NCs and sustained success under bd were good luck, but lk just had bad luck.

my excuse 4 him is what i call being a human being.

maybe hes a jerk. but the guy has won. a lot. even when he didn't "win the lottery."
 
#49
#49
jfrancis04 said:
Agree 100%. You just can't compare to winning the lottery though. Otherwise, we could make a case for every champion in every sport just "winning the lottery." It always takes a little luck.
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I'm not saying the first one is luck. I'm simply saying the second one is the product of an immense dose of good fortune. Without that, as I said earlier, Donovan's resume is no better than Steve Fisher's.
 
#50
#50
hatvol96 said:
Way to disregard the most important part of the post. Then again, I would expect nothing less from someone slobbering over a guy who has followed up two national titles with back to back NIT trips.
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Yet you support a man who has lost to Gardner Webb, San Diego, VMI, etc... in two seasons. Based on six years of coaching and rebuilding Texas A&M. That is TExas A&M with Acie Law. I mean yea maybe your right, just hard to understand your logic.
 
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