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You must be talking about Joe Scarano at Three Rivers College in Missouri. He was a graduate assistant at UTM 3-4 years ago. Currently recruiting coordinator at the junior college. He was a head coach at a DIII school in Mass before coming to UTM. His overall record at the DIII school was 25-59. One of the mandates for the job is that you have head coaching experience at either HS or College level. That requirement will eliminate many good candidates who are quality assistants at the DI level. What they need is someone who has big time experience in recruiting at the DI level and a coach that has actually won and been a part of successful DI programs. UTM is a DI program and competes in a good baseball league. They don't need to hire a HS or Junior College Assistant just because he has head coaching experience. If so they are setting themselves up for more of the same year after year. I thought the goal in a coaching change was to better the program and send it in a different direction?
With that said I am not bagging on Scarano or any other coach. I guess anyone could come in and do better but my point was you have a better chance of making a turn around if you hire someone who has a winning background and has knowledge and history of recruiting at the DI level. That in my opinion is what is needed....not just a guy that you can say has been a head coach before.
That is a hard question to answer....you have to look at a number of things. There are coaches that would great but not sure you could get them based on they make more as an assistant than they would at UTM. However every year I'm sure guys take jobs that pay less so that they can get a chance to be a HC. But a short list of some successful assistant's that would work within the hiring salary....Hall at Middle Tennessee, Barnett at Belmont, Daugherty at Western KY. I based those on $$, proximity to Martin, knowledge of the general recruiting area, and recent success of their current programs. There are also a number of guys that are former SEC coaches that are either in private sector or scouting. Someone like that might be a good fit due to past experience in a power conference ect... As I said just shooting from the hip on some names. It would be interesting to see the names of coaches who have actually applied for the job to get an idea of what they are choosing from.
The thing that they are fighting is the lack of success in the past and what the perceived salary is. A lot of the assistants make more than what UTM is paying. But as I said above that isn't always a factor. It just takes the right guy who wants the challenge and has the ability to make a change in the program. UTM has nice facilities and I think Martin is a nice unique area/town. It is all in the eye of the beholder I guess. I have heard some people bag on Martin and the area but I don't think that is fair. It is a nice small town. If a coach is scared to live in Martin or of the fact that the baseball program is big rebuild job then we don't want him anyway. My point through all this is that I'm afraid that the administration is pigeon-holing themselves into criteria that will limit the candidates. I just want them to be open minded and look at the whole picture and hire a coach that has a good back ground of winning and solid recruiting. I don't care if he is a scout or selling insurance right now...if he has done it in the past then they should look at it. A coach with major DI experience in his past would be more attractive to me that a HS coach or a Junior College Assistant.
It was asked on here last week about Rod Delmonico as a candidate. I personally do not think that is a good fit for UTM. Sure...he is an ultra successful past HC in the SEC and in the state of Tennessee. However I don't think that his personality would be a good fit in Martin. He has that perceived "pretty boy" attitude and demeanor. Whether that is fair or not I don't know. This is a guy that has always lived/coached in a big city. Knoxville, Tallahassee, Miami are his last three cities where he held jobs. To me he just wants back in anyway that he can...regardless of how the team does he will be looking for another job as soon as he can get one. That is not good for UTM. With that said I don't think that UTM is a "destination" job as many coaches throw around when they get hired. But I would hope whoever they hire next will stick around for a good many years and build it up before he tries to even start thinking about moving on. I don't think that scenario fits Rod Delmonico at all. Maybe Raleigh as one poster said but even then folks in Knoxville really didn't like him either and his way of doing things. Just my thought as I read the thread
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UTswag, I agree with everything you are saying. UTM really needs to hire a pitching coach with a history of success in recruiting from an established D1 program. However, they would have to double the present salary to get someone like that.
I also agree that UTM is limiting itself greatly by demanding HC experience. There are a lot of folks with HC experience that is either bad experience or at a lower level. This does not make them the best choice.
I also agree that UTM is limiting itself greatly by demanding HC experience. There are a lot of folks with HC experience that is either bad experience or at a lower level. This does not make them the best choice.
Agree 100%. The UTM job will pay about $60K a year from what I hear. The $70K stated earlier in the thread is a possibility but probably towards the maximum they will go. They do have 11.7 scholarships but they are at the in-state rate but they do give a few out of state tuition waivers. It doesn't matter to me if the new coach has a pitching or a hitting background. The only way to turn it around quick is to recruit. So the new coach has to have those connections with the ability and knowledge to recruit on a higher level. Someone on here stated the out of state tuition waiver for having a 3.5 GPA and 25+ ACT. The new coach would be wise to use that to his advantage and target those out of state kids that meet the requirements. If the scholarship budget is as I have heard, then you have to stretch those dollars and use the system to your advantage. Plus if you get a coach that comes from a winning program/history and has that major DI connection it is a sell to the recruits. It shows that they are serious about winning and taking baseball seriously. If you had a son who was a HS prospect and the new UTM coach came to recruit him....would you be more turned on and inclined to attend UTM when you hear that he was a HS coach the past 8 years/recruiting guy at some unknown junior college...or that he coached in the SEC or at some other top level program??? It is a no brainer, most kids will be more excited to go play for the established guy. Just throwing things out to think about. In the end we have no idea who has applied or who they will go with. I'm just stating what I think they should do to turn it around and make the program thrive.
Rachel11 I read both your posts before you edited them. I had heard some of the same things that you expressed. The assistant in question is not returning to UTM and rightfully so. A coach should never engage in those type of actions and a HC should put a stop to it immediately if he hears about it happening...and yes there is some good talent on the UTM roster...it just needs to be coached up!
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I totally agree with UTSwag. He is not what UTM needs right now. You cannot argue with almost 700 D1 wins if he is hired- but be ready to say goodbye as soon as the next offer comes in. For a guy who has made multiple trips to the CWS, he sure has had trouble finding another HC job. MTSU went another direction a few years back when he was a candidate.
Here is the key to me- does he want to be a coach or does he want to be the UTM baseball coach? I think UTM needs to look for possibly a D1 assistant who is hungry to build something. Forget SEC assistants, the good ones have always gone to larger schools than UTM. Look for someone who has ties within the state, but also knows how to go out and find players.
Here is the key to me- does he want to be a coach or does he want to be the UTM baseball coach? I think UTM needs to look for possibly a D1 assistant who is hungry to build something. Forget SEC assistants, the good ones have always gone to larger schools than UTM. Look for someone who has ties within the state, but also knows how to go out and find players.
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tempe, I don't think UTM is willing to pay what it would take to get an SEC asst anyways. Also, with this being a very regional school, it would be good to hire someone with contacts throughout West Tennessee/Kentucky and the Memphis area.
I still think you need someone who can develop pitchers. Pitching is the great equalizer and UTM cannot get the top HS and JUCO pitchers. However, if they have a coach (or staff) who can develop pitchers, they could become competitive quickly. Before he took the asst's job at UGA, Fred Corral would have been a great candidate.
I still think you need someone who can develop pitchers. Pitching is the great equalizer and UTM cannot get the top HS and JUCO pitchers. However, if they have a coach (or staff) who can develop pitchers, they could become competitive quickly. Before he took the asst's job at UGA, Fred Corral would have been a great candidate.
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OPEN FORUM FOR BASEBALL HEAD COACHING CANDIDATE SET FOR WEDNESDAY EVENING
MARTIN, Tenn. The general public and University of Tennessee at Martin alumni have been invited to an open forum featuring Skyhawk head baseball coaching candidate Mike Corn on Wednesday, Aug. 21. The session will take place in Room 111 (legislative chamber) of the Boling University Center from 6:30 to 8 p.m.
Corn is the current head baseball coach at Columbia State Community College in Columbia, Tenn. He has tallied a 138-69 record (.667 winning percentage) over four seasons at the helm of the prestigious Chargers program.
A two-time Tennessee Baseball Coaches Association Coach of the Year recipient, Corn led Columbia State to the TCCAA and NJCAA Region VII Tournament championship in 2013, as well as a TCCAA championship in 2012 and NJCAA Region VII championship in 2011.
Corns best season at Columbia State came in 2012, when he guided the Chargers to a program-best 43 victories and an NJCAA national No. 4 ranking. That squad also won a TCCAA-record 38 straight home games and produced the only MLB Draft pick in the TCCAA (Marsalis Holloway).
Before arriving at Columbia State, Corn served as director of baseball operations at the University of Tennessee during the 2009 season and as an assistant coach at Tusculum College in Greeneville, Tenn.
In his nine seasons at Tusculum, the Pioneers posted eight straight winning seasons, four consecutive 40-win campaigns, three South Atlantic Conference titles, two SAC Tournament championships and four appearances in the NCAA Division-II tournament. In 2007, Corn helped guide Tusculum to 50 wins, which broke the conference and school record for most victories in a season.
Corn is an Erwin, Tenn. native and graduated from Coker College in 1998 with a bachelors degree in fitness programming.
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OPEN FORUM FOR BASEBALL HEAD COACHING CANDIDATE SET FOR WEDNESDAY EVENING
MARTIN, Tenn. The general public and University of Tennessee at Martin alumni have been invited to an open forum featuring Skyhawk head baseball coaching candidate Mike Corn on Wednesday, Aug. 21. The session will take place in Room 111 (legislative chamber) of the Boling University Center from 6:30 to 8 p.m.
Corn is the current head baseball coach at Columbia State Community College in Columbia, Tenn. He has tallied a 138-69 record (.667 winning percentage) over four seasons at the helm of the prestigious Chargers program.
A two-time Tennessee Baseball Coaches Association Coach of the Year recipient, Corn led Columbia State to the TCCAA and NJCAA Region VII Tournament championship in 2013, as well as a TCCAA championship in 2012 and NJCAA Region VII championship in 2011.
Corns best season at Columbia State came in 2012, when he guided the Chargers to a program-best 43 victories and an NJCAA national No. 4 ranking. That squad also won a TCCAA-record 38 straight home games and produced the only MLB Draft pick in the TCCAA (Marsalis Holloway).
Before arriving at Columbia State, Corn served as director of baseball operations at the University of Tennessee during the 2009 season and as an assistant coach at Tusculum College in Greeneville, Tenn.
In his nine seasons at Tusculum, the Pioneers posted eight straight winning seasons, four consecutive 40-win campaigns, three South Atlantic Conference titles, two SAC Tournament championships and four appearances in the NCAA Division-II tournament. In 2007, Corn helped guide Tusculum to 50 wins, which broke the conference and school record for most victories in a season.
Corn is an Erwin, Tenn. native and graduated from Coker College in 1998 with a bachelors degree in fitness programming.
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Bruin, glad you found that. I had just heard today that Corn was gaining considerable traction with the search committee. Not hired yet but it sure appears to be headed that way.
Other things I heard included:
--The posted qualifications hamstrung the committee to some degree. Several good candidates not getting full consideration because they didn't meet all of the qualifications (ex: Preston Ozment does not have D1 recruiting experience as a coach)
--Rod Delmonico withdrew his name from consideration (I'm still not sure about his interest).
--Tyler Shrout is another candidate (currently at Samford, has been at Lipscomb and a a smaller college).
--Another D2 coach in Missouri is interested but UTM did not return his calls. He wanted to request confidentiality about his interest.
Bruin, what do you know about Corn?
Other things I heard included:
--The posted qualifications hamstrung the committee to some degree. Several good candidates not getting full consideration because they didn't meet all of the qualifications (ex: Preston Ozment does not have D1 recruiting experience as a coach)
--Rod Delmonico withdrew his name from consideration (I'm still not sure about his interest).
--Tyler Shrout is another candidate (currently at Samford, has been at Lipscomb and a a smaller college).
--Another D2 coach in Missouri is interested but UTM did not return his calls. He wanted to request confidentiality about his interest.
Bruin, what do you know about Corn?
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