UTAD cutting band funding/involvement? (Merged)

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TennesseeOrange said:
I'm not sure I've ever heard it more than once in a game.



How do you feel about the Aggie's band?



This. Ohio brought some entertainment value, and that was about it.
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I've honestly not seen them. I'm basing this on seeing/hearing all the SEC bands from 06-09. LSU is the leader, then the Pride. No one else comes close. USC is getting better, partly because one of the directors is a UT alum. Florida is better, but still have flairs of that Pride of the Sunshine thing. A&M may be better than I think, but no way is Missouri. So that would still leave UT top 3, not one of the worst.
 
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whobethis16 said:
No, it isn't. The University is over 200 years old. The football program is over 100 years old. No person, coach, or player is bigger than the program and the entity that it is.
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While I love the great traditions of this university the rest of the conference has trampled on them while they have adapted to the way things are today and have succeeded in winning on the field creating new traditions we have stayed concereted in our old ways and have been irrelevant in football for almost 10 years now. Maybe we should put you in charge cut out football close down neyland turn it into a museum and have reinactment games once every month
 
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OrangeAllDay said:
There would be a riot in Knoxville and dave hart and jimmy cheek would be thrown out on their ass if this is true
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I think you might be a bit disspointed then, if this comes to fruition. While the band is important to some folks, I suspect most folks probably don't care much either way once they get a feel for just how much is costs to take em along for the ride.

Pro teams doesn't cart around 70 kids playing crappy 80's songs and the NFL is managing to squeak by.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
While I love the great traditions of this university the rest of the conference has trampled on them while they have adapted to the way things are today and have succeeded in winning on the field creating new traditions we have stayed concereted in our old ways and have been irrelevant in football for almost 10 years now. Maybe we should put you in charge cut out football close down neyland turn it into a museum and have reinactment games once every month
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If you've read anything at all that I've posted, I'm not against the band playing newer things. I'm actually all for it. However, part of being the coach of the University of Tennessee is embracing the traditions and enhancing them, not cutting them out for the approval of 17 year old kids who know nothing about the University nor truly care about it other than it to be a stepping stone to the NFL. Educate them. Make them know and understand the importance of every aspect of the University.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
While I love the great traditions of this university the rest of the conference has trampled on them while they have adapted to the way things are today and have succeeded in winning on the field creating new traditions we have stayed concereted in our old ways and have been irrelevant in football for almost 10 years now. Maybe we should put you in charge cut out football close down neyland turn it into a museum and have reinactment games once every month
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And, as I've said before, who gives a damn what the rest of the SEC does? We are Tennessee. We have our things that make us Tennessee.
 
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finn said:
I think you might be a bit disspointed then, if this comes to fruition. While the band is important to some folks, I suspect most folks probably don't care much either way once they get a feel for just how much is costs to take em along for the ride.

Pro teams doesn't cart around 70 kids playing crappy 80's songs and the NFL is managing to squeak by.
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Newsflash, UT isn't a pro team, nor should it try to be.
 
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What we have here is massive over reaction, when the dust settles everything will be ....:thumbsup: :mf_surrender:
 
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vavolunteer said:
4 year Pride alum here. A few thoughts:

1. This is happening. It is about revenue.
2. The director is a moron who has made this course of action all to easy for the AD.
3. While I've never hated on Hart or Cheek much, it is very easy for them to make
decisions like this cuz they aren't Tennessee people.
4. The majority of funding for the marching band scholoarships come from the AD.
5. The band numbers and quality have been down for at least 5 years. This year's
is the best in a while. Still not as good as the glory days though, and it could be.

Solutions:
1. Put a damn winning team on the field. This will solve all revenue problems.
2. Get a damn band director that knows what the hell he is doing. Sousa has been a
joke since the day he was hired. New stand tunes would help for God's sake.
3. Work to teach the newer generation our traditions and why they are important. Work
to show the older generarion why some evolution is needed to remain relevant.
4. Get every booster to raise hell if the band gets minimized or disrespected. It's who
we are, you don't walk away from who we are.
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A perfect summary of the issue and fantastic vision for moving forward.

Thanks.
 
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would've signed it if they had some personality over the last few years and played songs like "Loser" by Beck. My Big Band, Journey and Bon Jovi days are behind this 43 yr old. Gimme some Skrillex, Daft Punk, and just throw some quick words from Pitbull in ery now and then and it'll do.
 
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I think it would be funny if the band members put cardboard figures in their section & then stayed away... that would draw some attention & they could play their canned music... :nono:
 
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Signed. They're making a big mistake if they decide to take the PotS out of UT football games.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
DeerPark stated in the other thread about this subject that the band isn't going anywhere.
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Minimizing the band is happening though. Might as well just take them out. Marching band and the songs they play in the stands is what brings the whole atmosphere together for me. Playing canned music and hip hop while listening to commercials? I can get that at Buffalo Wild Wings.
 
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Does the band really think 100,000 people come to see them play on Saturdays? Get with the program and improve the quality of product, or shut up about it.
 
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Orange Blazer said:
Does the band really think 100,000 people come to see them play on Saturdays? Get with the program and improve the quality of product, or shut up about it.
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They don't wanna hear that. They don't wanna hear that without the football team they have no need to exist.
 
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Hopperb17 said:
You are absolutely wrong in your statement here. The only people to ever put on a Pride uniform are students of the University of Tennessee. It is not a right, it is a privilege.

As a fellow POTS member, the news that band travel is going to be limited concerns me, but it makes since. The annual budget for traveling to 8 road games as a full band is roughly $1 million a year (350 members, hotel rooms, required meal stipend, 9 busses with required police escort, gas ect...)

The main part that is concerning IMO is the amount during the game a band is allowed to play. As many of you that are mad at Dave Hart should also be mad at the Pride leadership. The leadership (Gary Sousa) has not worked alongside the AD office during any of the 17 years he has been here. One example that I can remember...back in my day, coach Fulmer asked for a small "voluntary group of band student" to play Rocky Top for a group of very important recruits. Instead of suggestion to a couple of the students (who would have gladly helped), Sousa shot an email to the AD "tattling" on Fulmer for what might have been considered a NCAA violation.

This determination has been years in the making and POTS leadership holds as much burden of guilt as the AD office.

Please continue to support the band (with accurate information) and the traditions that we hold dear at the University of Tennessee.
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Interesting you bring this up. You referring to 2003? I went to the Stadium, in basketball pep band pullover, with about 30 other Pride folks, to play Rocky Top for some recruits. They fed us Calhoun's, let us throw around a football on the field, and basically got to hang out in the locker room all night. I remember Robert Ayers was there, and I recall noticing how massive he was.

Found out about a week later that we were no longer allowed to go do those kind of things, because it simulated a gameday atmosphere, and the school had self-reported a secondary violation.
 
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