Vaccine or not?

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Excerpts from two different studies. The first does not say where they are getting their numbers, but they seem very inaccurate.

If these rates are accurate it would indicate that males are 2x as likely to develop myocarditis from vaccine than they are to develop it from the virus. On top of that, since the vaccine does not prevent infection, they will then have the additional risk of myocarditis when they eventually catch COVID.

So why would we continually play Russian roulette by taking annual shots and just hoping we aren't one of the 1,000/1million (reduces to 1/1000) this time around?

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Risk of Myocarditis from COVID-19 Infection in People Under Age 20: A Population-Based Analysis

Myocarditis Following Coronavirus Disease 2019 mRNA Vaccine: A Case Series and Incidence Rate Determination
 
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turbovol said:
Fox viewers continue to push this politicized nonsense about the supposed adverse effects from the vaccines. The reality is that 70 percent of the American population has received the vaccine(s)--that's more than 230 million people-- and there have been precious few adverse effects. To keep pushing this BS now is absurd. The issue was politicized by the right as soon as a Democrat was elected president--fact. The vaccines have proven safe.
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1/1000 males getting myocarditis from the vaccine is a lot of adverse effects.
 
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VolinWayne said:
EXCLUSIVE: Healthy Minnesota mom suffered life-altering stroke after Pfizer vax
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You've lost on the safety issue. You and others can keep finding individual cases of supposed adverse reactions here and there, but the bottom
line is the vaccines are safe. Not 100 percent safe, but close to it.

Nothing is 100 percent safe: You can't be 100 percent sure that when you walk out of your house, that debris from an orbiting satellite doesn't fall out of the sky, hit you in the head and kill you. The best advice is to read what experts and expert organizations have to say, stay away from opinions from politicians, cable talk-show hosts, conspiracy theorists, bloggers or anybody with a partisan or ideological bent, and make an informed decision. And that's true of every issue, not just this one.
 
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turbovol said:
You've lost on the safety issue. You and others can keep finding individual cases of supposed adverse reactions here and there, but the bottom
line is the vaccines are safe. Not 100 percent safe, but close to it.

Nothing is 100 percent safe: You can't be 100 percent sure that when you walk out of your house, that debris from an orbiting satellite doesn't fall out of the sky, hit you in the head and kill you. The best advice is to read what experts and expert organizations have to say, stay away from opinions from politicians, cable talk-show hosts, conspiracy theorists, bloggers or anybody with a partisan or ideological bent, and make an informed decision. And that's true of every issue, not just this one.
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Are you high?
 
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turbovol said:
The best advice is to read what experts and expert organizations have to say, stay away from opinions from politicians, cable talk-show hosts, conspiracy theorists, bloggers or anybody with a partisan or ideological bent, and make an informed decision. And that's true of every issue, not just this one.
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So, you are saying we should stay away from your opinion?
 
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turbovol said:
You've lost on the safety issue. You and others can keep finding individual cases of supposed adverse reactions here and there, but the bottom
line is the vaccines are safe. Not 100 percent safe, but close to it.

Nothing is 100 percent safe: You can't be 100 percent sure that when you walk out of your house, that debris from an orbiting satellite doesn't fall out of the sky, hit you in the head and kill you. The best advice is to read what experts and expert organizations have to say, stay away from opinions from politicians, cable talk-show hosts, conspiracy theorists, bloggers or anybody with a partisan or ideological bent, and make an informed decision. And that's true of every issue, not just this one.
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Your statement is absolutely ridiculous. First of all, we now know that that they censored thousands of renowned doctors, scientists and experts in this field who had different opinions about covid and the safety of the vaccines. That was the only way they could reach the consensus that the vaccine was safe. I guess they are all now labeled as conspiracy theorists?

Then you have the simple fact that Phyzer wanted to wait 70 years before the public could gain access to the data pertaining to the covid vaccine. That doesn't raise a few questions for you?

You also have the absolutely huge increase in adverse reactions being reported to vaers since the Vaccine roll-out.
Florida health agency in Feb. reported the following:
1,700% increase in VAERS reports post the release of the COVID-19 vaccines
400% increase in overall vaccine administration for the same time period
4,400% increase in life-threatening conditions

Then you also had lots of groups being incentivised to push the covid vaccine. This included lots of organizations getting paid money as well as doctors being paid bonus checks per vaccinated patient.
Groups Lobbying for COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates Were Funded by Pfizer

Another thing to think about is the simple fact that some of the most vaccinated countries in the world also have the highest excess death mortality.
 
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VolinWayne said:
Your statement is absolutely rediculous. First of all, we now know that that they scensored thousands of renown doctors, scientists and experts in this field who had different opinions about covid and the safety of the vaccines. That was the only way they could reach the consensus that the vaccine was safe. I guess they are all now labeled as conspiracy theorists?

Then you have the simple fact that Phyzer wanted to wait 70 years before the public could gain access to the data pertaining to the covid vaccine. That doesn't raise a few questions for you?

You also have the absolutely huge increase in adverse reactions being reported to vaers since the Vaccine roll-out.
Florida health agency in Feb. reported the following:
1,700% increase in VAERS reports post the release of the COVID-19 vaccines
400% increase in overall vaccine administration for the same time period
4,400% increase in life-threatening conditions

Then you also had lots of groups being incensivised to push the covid vaccine. This included lots of organizations getting paid money as well as doctors being paid bonus checks per vaccinated patient.
Groups Lobbying for COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates Were Funded by Pfizer

Another thing to think about is the simple fact that some of the most vaccinated countries in the world also have the highest excess death mortality.
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I'm sorry, but I don't pay much attention to people whose spelling is worse than that of a 6th grader. As I said, dude, you don't want to get vaxxed,
don't get vaxxed. I suspect you are someone who's attracted to conspiracy theories--or am I being rEdiculous? It's ridiculous--to name one of your many errors.
 
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turbovol said:
I'm sorry, but I don't pay much attention to people whose spelling is worse than that of a 6th grader. As I said, dude, you don't want to get vaxxed,
don't get vaxxed. I suspect you are someone who's attracted to conspiracy theories--or am I being rEdiculous? It's ridiculous--to name one of your many errors.
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When you know you can't win an argument you can always settle for being a grammar police. For the record, I type fast from a small phone screen. Sorry if I don't take the time to make sure everything is up to your standard.
 
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