Vaccine or not?

[CagleMtnVol]

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[KptVFL]

I'm not saying it did or didn't but I find it odd when someone becomes irrationally angry when people....ask questions.

This^^^^^^^^

No clue here either but is totally unscientific to not talk about possibilities.

 

[Jxn Vol]

 

[joevols89]

This^^^^^^^^

No clue here either but is totally unscientific to not talk about possibilities.

Sure, but why not talk about the ones that are far more likely rather than ones that are extremely rare? Damage could’ve been done from getting covid itself. But both are not very likely.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Have you had patients or know of patients who developed myocarditis months or even a year after the vaccine or booster? I’ve been told and read that if it happens, it’s usually without the first couple of weeks.

I ask because I wonder if Bronny had been boosted or perhaps a case of Covid within the last month.

Like I said earlier, that's a very small sample size. My population overwhelmingly opted against giving CV19 shots to kids. At this level, even a 1:1000 risk would be deemed unacceptable, normally.

I don't have any inside info, but I have read that James had disclosed that he and entire family had taken the shots and boosters.

My only close experience is parents with reported adverse shot effects and the death I explained earlier.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Sure, but why not talk about the ones that are far more likely rather than ones that are extremely rare? Damage could’ve been done from getting covid itself. But both are not very likely.

Science steps in and figures out which is more probable. There's nothing proving that shots help young people.

 

[joevols89]

Science steps in and figures out which is more probable. There's nothing proving that shots help young people.

Which has nothing to do with what I said.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Which has nothing to do with what I said.

I'm not following.

CV infection (esp c the more recent variants) has a virtually 0% risk for healthy children and young adults.

mRNA shots have several known risks including myocarditis, clotting issues, and menstrual changes.

Which should we choose?

 

[joevols89]

Have you had patients or know of patients who developed myocarditis months or even a year after the vaccine or booster? I’ve been told and read that if it happens, it’s usually without the first couple of weeks.

I ask because I wonder if Bronny had been boosted or perhaps a case of Covid within the last month.

The answer is no.

 

[kiddiedoc]

The answer is no.

Guess we have another "Vax or Vent" entrant to the forum. Welcome.

 

[joevols89]

Guess we have another "Vax or Vent" entrant to the forum. Welcome.

Sorry, people are not developing myocarditis months or even a year after a vaccine from said vaccine, lol.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Sorry, people are not developing myocarditis months or even a year after a vaccine from said vaccine, lol.

Before we dig in:
1. How many CV19 patients have you treated over the past 3 years?
2. How many hospital staff positions do you hold?
3. Have you read the Pfizer EUA on mRNA vaccines and the subsequent medical literature on post-vaccine side effects? VAERS data?

 

[joevols89]

Sorry, people are not developing myocarditis months or even a year after a vaccine from said vaccine, lol.

 

[Jxn Vol]

Sorry, people are not developing myocarditis months or even a year after a vaccine from said vaccine, lol.

How many masks do you wear? Do you double mask or triple mask? Do you wear gloves in Kroger?

 

[joevols89]

How many masks do you wear? Do you double mask or triple mask? Do you wear gloves in Kroger?

0 and no. Not getting boosters either if you were wondering. But if people feel the need to do either, that’s fine, I’m not going to get my jimmies rustled over it.

But don’t let that get in the way of the fact that people are not developing myocarditis months or even a year after a vaccine from said vaccine. So unless Bronny got boosted in the last few weeks then his cardiac arrest had nothing to do with the vaccine.

Also I don’t shop at Kroger because I’m not poor.

 

[NashVol11]

I will take a Physician response over some one who espouses his HS SAT scores...
That is funny as shirt.

"Wait, 2 from the same team??? WOW!!!!" is not a "Physician response" lol, any rando off the street can fall for an anecdote (and then, again, run away every time they are asked to support their point)

 

[Jxn Vol]

0 and no. Not getting boosters either if you were wondering. But if people feel the need to do either, that’s fine, I’m not going to get my jimmies rustled over it.

But don’t let that get in the way of the fact that people are not developing myocarditis months or even a year after a vaccine from said vaccine.

Also I don’t shop at Kroger because I’m not poor.

Now do clots and Pulmonary embolism. Are you on an aspirin regimen?

Since you don’t shop at Kroger, what is your net worth. Do you want to compare W2s

 

[NashVol11]

Remember when you numbskulls lmao'd and insulted us for suggesting that the virus came from a lab, that cloth masks are useless, that kids needed to go back to school immediately, and that shots would not stop a respiratory virus from mutating and spreading?

Good times.

It’s not a growing number, there are just more conspiracy weirdos that care. It’s been the leading cause of death for young athletes for decades now. Feel free to support your opinion with statistics on athletes as opposed to “I heard today that it’s 2 people from the same team!!!!” anecdotal garbage

Still waiting or are we going to change the subject to masks again? Is shameless deflecting what experts do?

 

[VolinWayne]

Here are some interesting facts that are coming out of Germany that really back up the "it's totally safe" crowd.

1.8 percent of children required medical treatment for "unwanted side effects" after Covid vaccination, according to new data from the Ministry of Health of Lower Saxony in Germany.

620 213 children and adolescents from 5 to 18 years have so far been infected with the Corona virus. 305 of them ( 0.04% ) had to be treated in the hospital with a difficult course. Two were artificially ventilated.


Infektionen, Impfschäden, Depressionen: Die Corona-Bilanz der Kinder

 

[ButchPlz]

The cool thing about substandard people like this new fake joevols guy is that they always give you the obvious signs pretty early on.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

There has never been a justifiable data-driven analysis that justifies the vaccination of healthy people under 25, much less a mandate....

And no, the difference between 99.998% and 99.999% isn't justification

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I'm not following.

CV infection (esp c the more recent variants) has a virtually 0% risk for healthy children and young adults.

mRNA shots have several known risks including myocarditis, clotting issues, and menstrual changes.

Which should we choose?

To be fair, the rate of serious impacts from myocarditis in the young population is roughly the same as serious illness from COVID, a negligible amount slightly above 0.000%....

 

[ButchPlz]

There has never been a justifiable data-driven analysis that justifies the vaccination of healthy people under 25, much less a mandate....

And no, the difference between 99.998% and 99.999% isn't justification

I'd say 25 is being generous. In my age group (early 30s) anybody without about 5 comorbidities was overwhelmingly fine.

Easy decision for me. I'm not a lardass and I don't have any diseases. My COVID "bout" lasted about 2 days of moderate discomfort and video games.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I'd say 25 is being generous. In my age group (early 30s) anybody without about 5 comorbidities was overwhelmingly fine.

Easy decision for me. I'm not a lardass and I don't have any diseases. My COVID "bout" lasted about 2 days of moderate discomfort and video games.

I agree. If you were under 45 and healthy, your risk was really, really low, even in 2021. In absolute terms, the unknown risk didn't outweigh the reward, especially for those in 20s and early 30s...

If you were over 45 or had a significant co-morbidity, then getting the shot was the right decision in 2021. Plenty of data to back that up.

A one size fits all mandate was never the right path...

 

[Jxn Vol]

Regardless if it was safe or not it’s still absurd to approve a shot with no long term safety data. And insane to push a mandate.

All for a virus with a 99 percent survival rate.