Vaccine or not?

[NashVol11]

Vaccine injury is the most likely cause. What are you talking about?

Still time to delete this, that’s a pretty dumb thing to say

 

[VolinWayne]

Dr. Mercola has been a strong critic of the government’s response to COVID-19 and the COVID-19 vaccines. Some of his articles are republished by The Epoch Times. I wonder if this is the main reason his accounts are being closed
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_...ercolas-companies-5424215?utm_source=andshare

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Lol, I never once said Covid or the Covid vaccine couldn’t cause myocarditis. There a lot of people who can’t read in this thread.

To claim vaccine injury is the most likely cause of cardiac arrest is comical.

Looks like someone else has a reading problem...

I clearly was saying that between the jab and Covid, the jab is the most likely cause. I never even remotely insinuated that among ALL possible causes, that the jab was the most common cause.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Still time to delete this, that’s a pretty dumb thing to say

Nah, I'll let it live.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Regardless if it was safe or not it’s still absurd to approve a shot with no long term safety data. And insane to push a mandate.

All for a virus with a 99 percent survival rate.

One size fits all responses (either this or a mandate) aren't appropriate

The 99% includes groups with a 99.9999% and 99.999% survival rates. They also include groups with a sub 90% rate....

Not having the vax in 2021 would have been detrimental to a 65 year old with other issues while it wouldn't have been beneficial to a healthy 5 year old....

 

[NashVol11]

Looks like someone else has a reading problem...

I clearly was saying that between the jab and Covid, the jab is the most likely cause. I never even remotely insinuated that among ALL possible causes, that the jab was the most common cause.

"Clearly"

Sure, but why not talk about the ones that are far more likely rather than ones that are extremely rare? Damage could’ve been done from getting covid itself. But both are not very likely.

Vaccine injury is the most likely cause. What are you talking about?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

"Clearly"

You just posted it.

Sure, but why not talk about the ones that are far more likely rather than ones that are extremely rare? Damage could’ve been done from getting covid itself. But both are not very likely.

So again, between Covid and the jab, the jab is the most likely cause. I was not saying that the jab is the most likely cause of all possibilities. I was specifically replying to the comment he was making.

 

[Jxn Vol]

One size fits all responses (either this or a mandate) aren't appropriate

The 99% includes groups with a 99.9999% and 99.999% survival rates. They also include groups with a sub 90% rate....

Not having the vax in 2021 would have been detrimental to a 65 year old with other issues while it wouldn't have been beneficial to a healthy 5 year old....

The sub 90% rate could have been raised by actually not being stupid. The treatment algorithm was terrible. Vent and antivirals raised the rate. Also shutting folks in where routine medical care was hindered raised the rate. Vitamins such as zinc, C, and D were not pushed (wonder why). Fact is the shots didn’t work as intended. Every sickness does not require a pill or a shot to survive it. Even though Big pharma wants everyone to think that way.

 

[joevols89]

Looks like someone else has a reading problem...

I clearly was saying that between the jab and Covid, the jab is the most likely cause. I never even remotely insinuated that among ALL possible causes, that the jab was the most common cause.

Nope. You quoted me and didn’t add additional context, that’s on you. The post you quoted was referring to all potential causes, not just myocarditis via Covid or via vaccine injury. We aren’t mind readers.

You’re still wrong with that statement, however. It’s still more common with covid.

 

[joevols89]

"Clearly"

No point in engaging if he refuses to see how “clear” his post was.

 

[82_VOL_83]

There has never been a justifiable data-driven analysis that justifies the vaccination of healthy people under 25, much less a mandate....

And no, the difference between 99.998% and 99.999% isn't justification

But that one chiren!

 

[Jxn Vol]

No point in engaging if he refuses to see how “clear” his post was.

What’s your net worth? I need to know the definition of not poor.

 

[joevols89]

What’s your net worth? I need to know the definition of not poor.

Liquid or?

 

[Jxn Vol]

Liquid or?

Do you know the definition of net worth?

Financial and non-financial assets minus liabilities. If you have a million dollars of assets and owe on a $500,000 mortgage then your net worth is $500,000

 

[82_VOL_83]

Have no problem with the speedy approval. But the message around that should have openly stated that no one can guarantee there are no long term effects, because we have no data to prove that.

Very complex issue that should have centered around individuals above 50 or 45 or whatever being shown it might be a good choice for you, especially if you have other health issues.

That approach doesn't garner votes.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Interesting... does that mean you believe that myocarditis CAN occur in shorter window after a jab/booster? Isn't that cause for concern by itself, regardless of how long ago the jab was given?


Again, under the assumption that the risk of myocarditis is only for a brief window after given the jab/booster.

If only we had been given more time to research and study the side effects, we would have a clear understanding of that time window and we wouldn't be having this conversation.


Interesting. I shop at Piggly Wiggly and Food Lion. What does that make me?

LOL, we buy groceries at Walmart. Guess we are white trash.

 

[joevols89]

Do you know the definition of net worth?

Financial and non-financial assets minus liabilities. If you have a million dollars of assets and owe on a $500,000 mortgage then your net worth is $500,000

Then just short of 5 million without unrealized gains.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I didn’t mention where I shopped, actually. The original poster assumed I was masking and gloving up to visit Kroger.

During 21 I masked because it was required in Kroger and wore gloves because that was a better prevention policy than a mask. Gloves were worn while handling items and then they were cleaned with clorox wipes when I got home.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

LOL, we buy groceries at Walmart. Guess we are white trash.

I use coupons at Wal Mart. I'm even trashier....

 

[joevols89]

During 21 I masked because it was required in Kroger and wore gloves because that was a better prevention policy than a mask. Gloves were worn while handling items and then they were cleaned with clorox wipes when I got home.

I certainly have no issue with that unlike many in this thread. They’d have an aneurysm if they visited S. Korea.

 

[Sandman 423]

Then just short of 5 million without unrealized gains.

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[Jxn Vol]

Then just short of 5 million without unrealized gains.

Oh so this is what not poor is. I hate to break it to you but folks with a lot more money than you shop at Kroger.

 

[82_VOL_83]

What is your adjusted gross? Or net worth? Did you earn it or were you born on 3rd base? You are the one that seems to know what is considered wealthy.

Also do you put sunscreen on your ankles when you wear your capris?

OK, now you are showing immaturity. Just let it go. No one gives a **** what you make.

 

[82_VOL_83]

The sub 90% rate could have been raised by actually not being stupid. The treatment algorithm was terrible. Vent and antivirals raised the rate. Also shutting folks in where routine medical care was hindered raised the rate. Vitamins such as zinc, C, and D were not pushed (wonder why). Fact is the shots didn’t work as intended. Every sickness does not require a pill or a shot to survive it. Even though Big pharma wants everyone to think that way.

This is an incredibly short sighted opinion. Vent and antivirals were an after the fact issue. Shutting people up was isolated. The fact is, the shots helped curb the symptoms for many of us in the older crowd. You may say it was 99% survivable but it was very hard on certain population sectors. Remember, you will be old one of these days too. Hopefully you learn some humility by then.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I certainly have no issue with that unlike many in this thread. They’d have an aneurysm if they visited S. Korea.

My wife was diagnosed with Cancer in Jan 21 and did all of her treatment in the first 7 months. We were very cautious with cause. I believe that the vaccines can cause harm. I believe that masks not N95 and worn improperly are stupid and virtue signaling. But what I don't believe is that anyone has the right to tell me to vax or tell me I'm stupid because I did. It's a very personal decision and I come here and comment about both sides equally.