Vaccine or not?

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kiddiedoc said:
Does that mean you are unable to answer the simple question?
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Nope, it means I will not allow you to put words in my mouth and manipulate my posts into areas irrelevant to what I actually said. I know you for the bait and switch artist you are. Perhaps that's why you're called kiddiedoc. Do you want a Henry Clay Criollo with that?
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Nope, it means I will not allow you to put words in my mouth and manipulate my posts into areas irrelevant to what I actually said. I know you for the bait and switch artist you are. Perhaps that's why you're called kiddiedoc. Do you want a Henry Clay Criollo with that?
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So that's a yes?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
He can't handle the truth.
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There’s a lot of people in political forums now that are playing gotcha instead of exchanging ideas.

They spend a lot of time arguing against the strawman they built instead of addressing what people actually say.

Or in this case, think it’s somehow a loss to explain how they feel.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
There’s a lot of people in political forums now that are playing gotcha instead of exchanging ideas.

They spend a lot of time arguing against the strawman they built instead of addressing what people actually say.

Or in this case, think it’s somehow a loss to explain how they feel.
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There's very few people with consistent principles in here. The principles flip flop based on how it impacts their tribe...
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
Was it?....who paid for those labs in China? The NIH ran by fauci. Also visited by Obama admin themselves. WHo wargamed a covid like illness just months before? It wasn't the Chinese.... WHo discussed using such an epedemic for a decade previous to push police state tracking on civilians, and more invasive government and have piles of papers and were ready to impliment those ideas before the virus had even spread very far? Think tank after think tank connected tyo the CFR, Atlantic Council etc. If China is behind it, they had a **** ton of accomplices from here in the United States and the EU.

It's one thing to be naive an ignorant of what is going on in the world before Covid....it's another thing to stubbornly remain ignorant and heads in the sand after you and every other member in your community was targeted by bio weapons. We damn lucky..next time they will use what they learned from this attempt and be much more effiicient.

The world's cruelist IQ test continues.
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You really ought to familiarize yourself with Hanlon's razor.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Measles, mumps, chicken pox, whooping cough are all returning now as more parents forgo routine vaxxing of infants and older kids. Oh, well, perhaps the herd needs thinning.
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Can we cut out the fear porn?

Impact of measles in the United States

Measles has had a severe impact on children in the United States since colonial times. In the early decades of the 20th century, thousands of fatal measles infections were reported each year. During the 1950s an annual average of greater than 500,000 cases of measles and nearly 500 deaths due to measles were reported in the United States. Surveys indicated that 95% of the population had been infected with measles by the age of 15 years.
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Mumps - Wikipedia
The overall case-fatality rate of mumps is 1.6–3.8 people per 10,000, and these deaths typically occur in those who develop encephalitis.
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CHICKENPOX
Hospitalization occurs in ~3 per 1,000 cases. The overall death rate is ~1 per 60,000 cases. Complications increase with age; there are reported deathrates as high as 25 per 100,000 for persons in the 30- 49 age group.
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WoodsmanVol said:
And yet it isn't new. Look at old time ads.
Doctors' lust for tobacco industry money.
FDA allowing the soda industry to sugar poison babies and encourage teeth rot.
Tobacco industry allowed to promote disrespect of women.
Coffee industry allowed to promote direct physical abuse of women.
Cosmetic industry allowed to sexualize VERY young girls.
Weree there experts and others who advised against such things? Yes, but it was allowed anyway.
And here we are again, except the prevalence, laxness and speed of social media makes it even easier to not just disinform and misinform, but maliciously target marks. Sadly, people's own innate stupidity makes them easier and eager to accept lies of all kinds.
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OK... WOW
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I'll probably listen to that on my 4 hour drive to work in the morning, but did they mention the Oschner guy in New Orleans that gave his grandkids the first polio vaccines?
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I don't remember the name specifically but they did discuss the issues. Much of it is about how the history doesn't match the story we've all heard
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Can we cut out the fear porn?

Impact of measles in the United States



Mumps - Wikipedia


CHICKENPOX
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I think you miss the point. These diseases went on the decline, almost became nonexistent. Now that parents opt to reject vaccinations of practically all kinds, they're on the rise again. Even the three major public news networks raise the issue from time to time. This has nothing to do with fear poor, just a statement of fact. But you knew that. Personally, I think maybe antivaxxers might be among the best environmentalists. Earth is overpopulated, the herd needs serious thinning. Resources are already severely strained. While a nuclear war is faster, perhaps a gradual, but steady weeding is better for the environment as a whole. Less panic as well, I mean less fear porn.

Hmm, a GATTACA policy for a Brave New World. Why not? After all, a gram is better than a damn.


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WoodsmanVol said:
I think you miss the point. These diseases went on the decline, almost became nonexistent. Now that parents opt to reject vaccinations of practically all kinds, they're on the rise again. Even the three major public news networks raise the issue from time to time. This has nothing to do with fear poor, just a statement of fact. But you knew that. Personally, I think maybe antivaxxers might be among the best environmentalists. Earth is overpopulated, the herd needs serious thinning. Resources are already severely strained. While a nuclear war is faster, perhaps a gradual, but steady weeding is better for the environment as a whole. Less panic as well, I mean less fear porn.

Hmm, a GATTACA policy for a Brave New World. Why not? After all, a gram is better than a damn.


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They’re on the rise again because of the illegal immigrants bringing them into this country.
 
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Is this thing called vaccine injuries still some vast conspiracy theory being pushed by people wearing tin foil hats? I think we have finally reached the point where this is accepted as a fact but some of you want to continue to pretend like it never happened and you will never admit that you were wrong.

Vaccine-injured
Lives
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davethevol said:
They’re on the rise again because of the illegal immigrants bringing them into this country.
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Despite the nonsensical fear porn, I've only ever seen one case of measles in 25 years. Care to guess the patient's background?

I haven't seen a case of varicella in years, no mumps, no polio, no diphtheria, no rubella, no tetanus, no HiB, no invasive pneumococcal infections in at least a decade, and the only few cases of pertussis in 20+ years were in young babies that contracted it before they were fully immunized.

Gonna take a while to "thin the herd" at this rate.
 
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