Vaccine or not?

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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
brownstone.org

Setting the Record Straight on Ivermectin ⋆ Brownstone Institute

Ivermectin has a distinguished history, and it may have benefits comparable to those of penicillin. The anti-parasitic’s discovery led to a Nobel Prize.
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This article was written in 22. At that time ic claimed 78 studies were “promising “ for the treatment of covid 19 with ivermectin.

Here’s one from the list I picked at random.

www.cidrap.umn.edu

Yet another study shows little benefit for ivermectin with COVID-19

The observed median time to first recovery was 14 days in the ivermectin group and 15 in the usual-care group.
www.cidrap.umn.edu www.cidrap.umn.edu

It concluded the ivermectin should not be used to treat covid 19.
Or…..
Overall, these findings, while evidencing a small benefit in symptom duration, do not support the use of ivermectin as treatment for COVID-19.

Guess what the other 3 I checked said.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
There was no conspiracy to suppress ivermectin.
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A friend of mine who is a family doctor and has treated hundreds of patients with Ivermectin swears that the suppression of Ivermectin is one of the saddest most engaging storied that came out if the Covid era. Apparently we all have our own version of truth.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
There was no conspiracy to suppress ivermectin.
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What would your explanation be for the instantaneous mass-labeling it as "horse paste," despite its widespread use in humans, which likely saves hundreds of thousands of lives a year and earned it the Nobel prize?

BTW, Merck was (and still is?) donating around 300 million doses of ivermectin a year for humanitarian purposes.
 
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VolinWayne said:
A friend of mine who is a family doctor and has treated hundreds of patients with Ivermectin swears that the suppression of Ivermectin is one of the saddest most engaging storied that came out if the Covid era. Apparently we all have our own version of truth.
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He should preform a study to prove it works.
Nobody else has been able to.


Here’s reality.
Insurance companies run medical. Not pharmaceutical companies. Insurance wants one of 2 things. They want you to heal quickly or die quickly. The problem with Covid 19 early was it was sending people to the hospital and not killing them quickly. The insurance industry sponsored 43 studies on ivermectin and 65 on Hydroxychloroquine. The insurance industry was desperate for something that would help make people better quickly.

It’s ok if you want to take it. Have at it. But the red woman didn’t survive liver cancer by messing around with things we hope would work.

I don’t object to the use of ivermectin. I absolutely object to the bull **** boogeyman argument that some supervillains were suppressing it when the people who actually control things were desperate for it to work
 
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kiddiedoc said:
What would your explanation be for the instantaneous mass-labeling it as "horse paste," despite its widespread use in humans, which likely saves hundreds of thousands of lives a year and earned it the Nobel prize?
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What it does for other issues is irrelevant to the treatment of Covid 19


Who has more influence on what you prescribe?
Insurance and what they’ll pay for of pharmaceutical companies
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
What it does for other issues is irrelevant to the treatment of Covid 19


Who has more influence on what you prescribe?
Insurance and what they’ll pay for of pharmaceutical companies
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That wasn't my point. Where did "horse paste" come from? Because I've never heard ivermectin called that in my 23+ years of being a physician.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I don’t object to the use of ivermectin. I absolutely object to the bull **** boogeyman argument that some supervillains were suppressing it when the people who actually control things were desperate for it to work
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Ivermectin is generic and very cheap. There was no money in its use.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
That wasn't my point. Where did "horse paste" come from? Because I've never heard ivermectin called that in my 23+ years of being a physician.
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I don’t know.
I have not looked into that because I guess I just don’t care what “they” said about it.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Ivermectin is generic and very cheap. There was no money in its use.
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Insurance…..who is in control of all things medical….loves cheap and effective. That’s why they sponsored so many studies.

The flip side is it has to work to save them money.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
This article was written in 22. At that time ic claimed 78 studies were “promising “ for the treatment of covid 19 with ivermectin.

Here’s one from the list I picked at random.

www.cidrap.umn.edu

Yet another study shows little benefit for ivermectin with COVID-19

The observed median time to first recovery was 14 days in the ivermectin group and 15 in the usual-care group.
www.cidrap.umn.edu www.cidrap.umn.edu

It concluded the ivermectin should not be used to treat covid 19.
Or…..
Overall, these findings, while evidencing a small benefit in symptom duration, do not support the use of ivermectin as treatment for COVID-19.

Guess what the other 3 I checked said.
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Never make fun of flat earthers, you seem to take the same satisfaction they do with being wrong.
 
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There's plenty of evidence more so evidence I have personally experienced, many people saw directly how wuickly people recovered first hand after getting Ivermectin.
 
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Same people questioning ivermectin are fine with Tamiflu and Paxlovid....

@kiddiedoc you familiar with risks especially among kids and Tamiflu? Auditory hallucinations and other psychoactive reactions in teens? I am curious as to how aware pediatricians are with the side effects. Because while they seem to know general practioners still seem to be okay with it. I also have noted my kids pediatrician is the one doctor who did question the MRNA Vaxx. He has even commented on teh fact how amazed he was that other dr's were okay with a vaccine being pushed trhough so quickly for kids, when tehy would not even ok much less evasive ones for years because they hadn't had long enough trials. ....why is it peditricians seem to see through the pharma propoganda more?

The Tamiflu fiasco and lessons learnt - PMC

Oseltamivir (Tamiflu), a neuraminidase inhibitor, was approved for seasonal flu by US Food and Drug Administration in 1999. A number of randomized controlled trials, systematic reviews, and meta-analysis emphasized a favorable efficacy and safety ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Never hear about this one on the news however.....just Ivermectin.....a drug used safely for 50 years....
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
He should preform a study to prove it works.
Nobody else has been able to.


Here’s reality.
Insurance companies run medical. Not pharmaceutical companies. Insurance wants one of 2 things. They want you to heal quickly or die quickly. The problem with Covid 19 early was it was sending people to the hospital and not killing them quickly. The insurance industry sponsored 43 studies on ivermectin and 65 on Hydroxychloroquine. The insurance industry was desperate for something that would help make people better quickly.

It’s ok if you want to take it. Have at it. But the red woman didn’t survive liver cancer by messing around with things we hope would work.

I don’t object to the use of ivermectin. I absolutely object to the bull **** boogeyman argument that some supervillains were suppressing it when the people who actually control things were desperate for it to work
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You might be on to how some of these studies work?
 
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