Vaccine or not?

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BigOrangeMojo said:
The most non biased analysis would be the profits/stock prices of life insurance companies and term life policy premium changes....

Follow the $$$$$
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A massive decrease in population could put a dent in their profits. 😳. But that’s long term outcomes that we don’t know yet.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
My wife is a cancer survivor and high risk.
On advice from our infectious disease Dr we got the first shot and booster. After that she still recommended we get the shot but we elected not to as the effectiveness of the shot was diminishing as was the severity of the disease.

I have no idea how effective the current shot is as Covid has devolved into nothing more than the common cold. But that brings us back to ….everyone should consult a dr they trust and make their own decisions. Let’s just be honest about what is happening.


For example, insurance companies are currently reporting that they have paid out on side effects from COVID at the same rate as side effects from the covid vaccine.
That’s clearly not a scientific study but it’s absolutely a sign that there needs to be one. We have people walking around thinking they’re in no danger because they never took the vaccine but the reality appears to be that they are just as likely to suffer side effects as those who took the vaccine and should have themselves checked as well.
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That makes 4 of us, counting the ladies. Cancer in 2020. Yeah I could have listened to all the Dr's here on VN but on the advice of my wife onco, we got initial plus first booster. Like Slice's experience, he recommended that we continue. We CHOSE not to. I take supplements and have had it twice with minimal symptoms. Both times post shots.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
A massive decrease in population could put a dent in their profits. 😳. But that’s long term outcomes that we don’t know yet.
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Just a very small change in actuarial tables would do that. You don't need a massive decrease in population...

3.5 years in and life insurers haven't had an issue yet. Stock price for top 6 publicly traded life insurers are up between 60-130% since Nov 2020....

Doesn't mean that won't change going forward...
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Funny you ask that because I have a video of you dong those very things.
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Say what? You guys didn’t tell me the cameras were coming out so I left! It appears the party really got started after that. Dang it!

Surely someone else pointed this out. I can’t be the only immature person in here.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Say what? You guys didn’t tell me the cameras were coming out so I left! It appears the party really got started after that. Dang it!

Surely someone else pointed this out. I can’t be the only immature person in here.
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They were surveillance cameras, running 24/7, we got you.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Like, "If you take these vaccines, you aren't going to catch COVID?" -POTUS, Joe Biden

Can you provide examples where the head of our country perpetuated any of your above fallacies in the way that the CV shot was pushed?
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One can only wonder, WTH are you talking about. You're trying to take my post and make it seem I said something I didn't. Been there, done that.
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hUTch2002 said:
Thanks. I’m 100% with you that each should choose what’s right for them. I don’t care what someone else does. I didn’t get the shot and never thought masks worked but I don’t care if someone did those things or still does those things. There could be all kinds of reasons people wear a mask these days so I’m not going to presume I know why someone does.

It’s always interesting to me to hear different thoughts on why someone chose this vs that or how Covid affects this person vs that one. There are definitely some underlying themes, such as obesity leading to a rougher Covid experience, but even that isn’t true in every case. Anyway, thanks for sharing and I hope your wife is doing well.
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The masks are a huge mistake.
The funny thing is of all that went on the mask are the real issue as lung issues due to micro plastics and whatnot have gone way up. The kicker is there are people walking around with masks related lung problems and they won’t know it for years to come. Do we see anyone talking about that though?

But I digress
 
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Jxn Vol said:
Nurse pointed out the flaw. Feel free to continue with the cranial-rectal inversion.
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Uuuhhh
The nurse pointed out the flaw in a study I picked at random from a list someone claimed proved ivermectin works but actually confirmed it didn’t. That was a study funded by a freedom group attempting to prove ivermectin works. So a flaw from that group of people isn’t a surprise

Now do the other 75 from that group and see what happens
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
That makes 4 of us, counting the ladies. Cancer in 2020. Yeah I could have listened to all the Dr's here on VN but on the advice of my wife onco, we got initial plus first booster. Like Slice's experience, he recommended that we continue. We CHOSE not to. I take supplements and have had it twice with minimal symptoms. Both times post shots.
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I welcome any of these “I’m concerned about what I put in my body” nit wits to join the “suns out guns out” challenge in the pub.

@kiddiedoc ain’t scared. He posted last time. But then again he’s not one of the nit wits either.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Uuuhhh
The nurse pointed out the flaw in a study I picked at random from a list someone claimed proved ivermectin works but actually confirmed it didn’t. That was a study funded by a freedom group attempting to prove ivermectin works. So a flaw from that group of people isn’t a surprise

Now do the other 75 from that group and see what happens
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I’m not going though every study. My point has been proven. Studies can be manipulated. Especially by the boogeyman
 
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In an interview on CHD.TV’s “The People’s Testaments,” Dr. Joel Wallskog described how he was diagnosed with transverse myelitis after getting the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, and why he now devotes his time to helping others injured by the vaccine.

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COVID Vaccine Injury Ends Surgeon’s 20-Year Career

In an interview on CHD.TV’s “The People’s Testaments,” Dr. Joel Wallskog described how he was diagnosed with transverse myelitis after getting the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, and why he now devotes his time to helping others injured by the vaccine.
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Dr. Anthony Fauci knew COVID-19 vaccines were causing serious injuries, including myocarditis, neurological conditions and death, within days of the vaccines’ rollout in December 2020, according to documents obtained by Children’s Health Defense.

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Exclusive: Fauci Ignored Early Reports of Vaccine Injuries, Emails Obtained by CHD Reveal

Dr. Anthony Fauci knew COVID-19 vaccines were causing serious injuries, including myocarditis, neurological conditions and death, within days of the vaccines’ rollout in December 2020, according to documents obtained by Children’s Health Defense.
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I stay out of this thread because of individual results based on luck of the draw with DNA , a religious like stance of people based on what is right and what is wrong , and the amount of government/ big pharma involvement and huge amounts of disinformation from , Drs, MSM and Government agencies. I simply lost interest in the topic and am just going to wait for the next one . I said all of that to ask , has anyone seen Chris Cuomo admitting he and the MSM was wrong about Ivermectin and Joe Rogan was right ? I just found it interesting .
 
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0nelilreb said:
I stay out of this thread because of individual results based on luck of the draw with DNA , a religious like stance of people based on what is right and what is wrong , and the amount of government/ big pharma involvement and huge amounts of disinformation from , Drs, MSM and Government agencies. I simply lost interest in the topic and am just going to wait for the next one . I said all of that to ask , has anyone seen Chris Cuomo admitting he and the MSM was wrong about Ivermectin and Joe Rogan was right ? I just found it interesting .
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The 180 has been quiet. No fanfare. No public mea culpas. It was despicable how they shilled for Big Pharma as the only option.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Uuuhhh
The nurse pointed out the flaw in a study I picked at random from a list someone claimed proved ivermectin works but actually confirmed it didn’t. That was a study funded by a freedom group attempting to prove ivermectin works. So a flaw from that group of people isn’t a surprise

Now do the other 75 from that group and see what happens
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I pointed out the flaws in 90% of double blind studies. It’s not just one.
Chris Cuomo just broke stride with the msm and admitted the truth about ivermectin being suppressed and lied about.
I don’t think it would matter what I offered you, you are dug in. Fair enough.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
I pointed out the flaws in 90% of double blind studies. It’s not just one.
Chris Cuomo just broke stride with the msm and admitted the truth about ivermectin being suppressed and lied about.
I don’t think it would matter what I offered you, you are dug in. Fair enough.
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This is what happens when you base treatments on a white paper and ignore reality.
 
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0nelilreb said:
I stay out of this thread because of individual results based on luck of the draw with DNA , a religious like stance of people based on what is right and what is wrong , and the amount of government/ big pharma involvement and huge amounts of disinformation from , Drs, MSM and Government agencies. I simply lost interest in the topic and am just going to wait for the next one . I said all of that to ask , has anyone seen Chris Cuomo admitting he and the MSM was wrong about Ivermectin and Joe Rogan was right ? I just found it interesting .
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Cuomo also admitted that he was dealing with some type of adverse reaction from the vaccine. This after he was a huge advocate of vaccinating the entire population.....I guess it feels a lot different when it's you thats suffering from these "extremely rare" side effects
 
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A government official reading a report from a guy who lost his medical license is not a govt report....

And the numbers directly contradict every piece of info from insurance companies, American Heart Association. etc...
 
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