Vaccine or not?

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Jxn Vol said:
I work in surgery. It’s required. It’s not crazy. If you are on an OR table you want us in masks. It’s universal precautions. Standard of care. And I’m not shirtless. I’m in scrubs.
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Yeah, nobody wants blood, bone dust, or juice from a bowel resection in their mouth.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Interestingly, studies on Zinc and vitamin supplements for the treatment of flu, Cv19, and other respiratory viruses are mixed, at best. (If we are doing peer-reviewed evidence.) Most are very safe, though.
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Ya the arguments on the does usage is really tedious to read but the general consensus is that it is effective.
 
#29,053
#29,053
Jxn Vol said:
I work in surgery. It’s required. It’s not crazy. If you are on an OR table you want us in masks. It’s universal precautions. Standard of care. And I’m not shirtless. I’m in scrubs.
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That’s a very different thing isn’t it though. When medical professionals mask, even reps which is what I’m guessing you do, it’s a one and done. You wear it once and toss it. Even then it’s not 100% as a preventative measure. And we were told that it’s going to help to put kids in masks…..who trade them…..wear the same one for a month at a time…..wear them on their heads like hats…..and it’s not like the adults are any better. Leaving them on the rear view mirrors. Stuffing them in pockets.
Masking was the stupidest thing from the pandemic and may turn out to be the most medically harmful. Microscopic plastic infections are starting to become a problem and it’s a ticking time bomb for many people who have no idea they have a problem that may not surface for years as it festers deep in their lungs.
I’m sure everyone is grateful you keep your shirt on.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Yeah, nobody wants blood, bone dust, or juice from a bowel resection in their mouth.
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The red woman work in the cardiac cath lab (MRN) for over 20 years. The stories of blood and “stuff” flying around the room are a daily occurrence. I’m surprised we didn’t have trauma surgery people working in a hazmat suit
 
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@kiddiedoc
I think the most entertaining debate I read was “it’s not that the vitamin supplements work, it’s that people who are vitamin deficient are more likely to get sick”
Well that’s just earth shattering information. Unhealthy people are more likely to get sick. Who would have thought that?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
@kiddiedoc
I think the most entertaining debate I read was “it’s not that the vitamin supplements work, it’s that people who are vitamin deficient are more likely to get sick”
Well that’s just earth shattering information. Unhealthy people are more likely to get sick. Who would have thought that?
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It's a super-fun mental exercise to consider how much we accomplished by closing gyms, keeping kids and most of the workforce home and sitting on their asses all day, chaining up tennis courts, putting a gag over people's breathing holes, isolating them from social interaction, and inherently encouraging poor dietary habits and alcohol and drug abuse.

"For the greater good."
 
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kiddiedoc said:
It's a super-fun mental exercise to consider how much we accomplished by closing gyms, keeping kids and most of the workforce home and sitting on their asses all day, chaining up tennis courts, putting a gag over people's breathing holes, isolating them from social interaction, and inherently encouraging poor dietary habits and alcohol and drug abuse.

"For the greater good."
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The red woman and I regularly talk about that exact stupidity

Edit: gym and workout studios closed
Liquor store, open
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
The red woman and I regularly talk about that exact stupidity

Edit: gym and workout studios closed
Liquor store, open
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I had a moment of clarity when I ran over to the quickie-mart behind my office to grab a drink for lunch one day: they had all the plexiglass and safety signs up, cashier in full badge-of-honor face covering.... and behind her, 3 walls were stacked to the ceiling with ever kind of cigarette, dip, vape, gummy, cheap cigar, etc imaginable, all with nice promotion signs and sale prices. The lady in front of me was buying two 12-packs of ****** beer, chips, and snack cakes of some sort (along with cigarettes).

I thought: "We aren't going to make it, are we?"
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I had a moment of clarity when I ran over to the quickie-mart behind my office to grab a drink for lunch one day: they had all the plexiglass and safety signs up, cashier in full badge-of-honor face covering.... and behind her, 3 walls were stacked to the ceiling with ever kind of cigarette, dip, vape, gummy, cheap cigar, etc imaginable, all with nice promotion signs and sale prices. The lady in front of me was buying two 12-packs of ****** beer, chips, and snack cakes of some sort (along with cigarettes).

I thought: "We aren't going to make it, are we?"
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Mine was when we shut everything down and I drove past an ace hardware and the place looked like a Black Friday sale was going on. Social distancing at its best.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
That’s a very different thing isn’t it though. When medical professionals mask, even reps which is what I’m guessing you do, it’s a one and done. You wear it once and toss it. Even then it’s not 100% as a preventative measure. And we were told that it’s going to help to put kids in masks…..who trade them…..wear the same one for a month at a time…..wear them on their heads like hats…..and it’s not like the adults are any better. Leaving them on the rear view mirrors. Stuffing them in pockets.
Masking was the stupidest thing from the pandemic and may turn out to be the most medically harmful. Microscopic plastic infections are starting to become a problem and it’s a ticking time bomb for many people who have no idea they have a problem that may not surface for years as it festers deep in their lungs.
I’m sure everyone is grateful you keep your shirt on.
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I know you wish I’m fat and out of shape. But I’m not. Sorry. Keep working. You will get there.

I mask because it’s required. Been that way for decades. When the PPE shortage occurred they asked us to reuse masks. I didn’t. I used a fresh one multiple times a day.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Yeah, nobody wants blood, bone dust, or juice from a bowel resection in their mouth.
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I’ve worked on both sides of the table.

The folks in surgery had this thing figured out at its inception. I would say the CRNAs are 90% anti vax. These are folks that focus on pulmonary issues daily.

One I know has family in the mortuary business. They have seen some crazy stuff. The shot is poison.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
I know you wish I’m fat and out of shape. But I’m not. Sorry. Keep working. You will get there.

I mask because it’s required. Been that way for decades. When the PPE shortage occurred they asked us to reuse masks. I didn’t. I used a fresh one multiple times a day.
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Ya- wasn’t dogging you. Medical is the only people doing the masking correctly and it’s still not 100%. What hope did we have for the common moron.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
You didn’t actually read the study.
Lol
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Slice I always liked you, but you continue to act very condesending after repeatedly being wrong....about absolutely everything. Keep playing the pompus card, but your choices and those you advocated endangered lives before and will again if you don't learn from them. Just now people are getting cancer that is ravaging them because of the side effects of the "vaxx"...... people who advocated the vaxx and used that very reason for supporting it are now victims of it. Let's be at least honest that you were all for the vaxx and made fun of those who were not willing to be guinea pigs. Likewise you have continued to mock Ivermectin...even while more and more it is showing to have been one of the most successful treatments.


But by all means tell me I don't know what is going on, who have stated this was going on from nearly the beginning, and pat yourself on the back for being mainstream. You continue to redefine how this discussion started, and where we are now. You can move the goal lines now....but if you can't admit you were wrong, you can't avoid the same mistakes of pride in the future.
 
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Let's actually get some real numbers in here...

2018 cancer deaths 609.6K

2021 cancer deaths 608.6K
2022 cancer deaths 609.4K
2023 cancer deaths 609.8K
 
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2 anti vaccine contractors in the Chattanooga area in the last 3 months. Both younger than me, both had massive heart attacks with blood clots. Neither had the vaccine. One made it and one did not.

So you can take that condescending “I hope this doesn’t get you” self righteous ******** and stuff it sideways up your….


We had another self righteous guy around here that like to say “you can be wrong if you want to” when he could not back up his statements with proof. Anyone remember who that was.
 
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