Vaccine or not?

[Jxn Vol]

Wait: I know the Earls are bizarre half-wits who like to traffick in outlandish conspiracy theories. And I know that they spewed an avalanche of Covid-related nonsense. But I somehow missed the fact that some/many of them ACTUALLY seem to believe that the Covid virus was /intentionally/ released. Have I got that right? Just when you think these clowns can't get any more stupid and ridiculous, no, wait, yes...they can. We want to think that Marjorie Taylor Greene is a somewhat rare imbecile--but in fact we have a large block of people like her in America. If you are anti-government by instinct and low IQ, it's apparenty easy to ascribe all manner of nefarious behavior to it---no matter how absurd.

Why did you trade Rube for Earl?

 

[82_VOL_83]

Picking at grammar and spelling is a sure admission you know you are wrong.

OK, you win. You know everything there is to know. You knew all about the vaccine in 2021 when it came out, you are a VN genius.



Actually you are in the same group of zealots that are willing to accuse everyone that took a shot as being an idiot. I'm done.

 

[Jxn Vol]

OK, you win. You know everything there is to know. You knew all about the vaccine in 2021 when it came out, you are a VN genius.



Actually you are in the same group of zealots that are willing to accuse everyone that took a shot as being an idiot. I'm done.

My position on the pincushions have evolved. Some are idiots but there is a couple of subcategories: scared or perhaps uninformed. Or both.

Others may develop over time. Cheers.

 

[82_VOL_83]

My position on the pincushions have evolved. Some are idiots but there is a couple of subcategories: scared or perhaps uninformed. Or both.

Others may develop over time. Cheers.

Mine was living with a severely immunocompromised spouse. No other reason. However, the zealots here want everyone to be in the same category. The one that is telling me "I lost" is one of those. Doesn't know the personal situation, age, or other factors. Just makes an assumption like his hindsight is 20/10 and EVERYONE should know that he is right.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Like masks work, schools should close, beaches are dangerous, 6ft for safety, came from a pangolin, people under 55 were high risk, vit d doesn't help, vax will completely prevent you from getting covid, vax or vent, etc? Things like that?

Now, you list some

Mask shaming
Vax shaming
mandated vaccines or lose your job
and the worst part....Karens at COSTCO!!!

 

[82_VOL_83]

Mask shaming
Vax shaming
mandated vaccines or lose your job
and the worst part....Karens at COSTCO!!!

For the record, I disagreed with all of that. I was castigated at Kroger one day for not having a mask on but wearing Nitrile gloves. I'm not going to pick up a snot sized germ when you have to go in one direction and stay a mile apart but I can pick up the virus and bring it home on my hands. Woman was an idiot. I don't think she survived covid as an employee.

 

[Jxn Vol]

Mine was living with a severely immunocompromised spouse. No other reason. However, the zealots here want everyone to be in the same category. The one that is telling me "I lost" is one of those. Doesn't know the personal situation, age, or other factors. Just makes an assumption like his hindsight is 20/10 and EVERYONE should know that he is right.

But the shot didn’t work and had no long term safety data. So a blend of scared and uninformed.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

For the record, I disagreed with all of that. I was castigated at Kroger one day for not having a mask on but wearing Nitrile gloves. I'm not going to pick up a snot sized germ when you have to go in one direction and stay a mile apart but I can pick up the virus and bring it home on my hands. Woman was an idiot. I don't think she survived covid as an employee.

There was nothing wrong with taking precautions you felt were necessary for yourself or family.

 

[82_VOL_83]

But the shot didn’t work and had no long term safety data. So a blend of scared and uninformed.

You don't know that it didn't work for me. The shot simply lessened the symptoms for a period of time. I actually got covid later and so did my wife. medium severity cold was all for me. She spiked a fever that was .5 degrees from her having to go to the ER but we controlled it and it went away in 24 hours. I'm not saying you are wrong about the shot downstream effects but don't get on here and criticize people that made decisions based on the info available at the time but stay neutral in this argument. Calling me and mine a pin cushion is f'ing stupid. If you don't understand that then I'm done with your dumbass too.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I am not anti science but I am anti stupid. The blue masks never protected anyone from jack squat!

It even said it wouldn't protect against a virus right on the box!

 

[82_VOL_83]

There was nothing wrong with taking precautions you felt were necessary for yourself or family.

That's all I did and all I advocate. The vax or vent **** is just that, stupid ****.

 

[Jxn Vol]

You don't know that it didn't work for me. The shot simply lessened the symptoms for a period of time. I actually got covid later and so did my wife. medium severity cold was all for me. She spiked a fever that was .5 degrees from her having to go to the ER but we controlled it and it went away in 24 hours. I'm not saying you are wrong about the shot downstream effects but don't get on here and criticize people that made decisions based on the info available at the time but stay neutral in this argument. Calling me and mine a pin cushion is f'ing stupid. If you don't understand that then I'm done with your dumbass too.

You don’t know that it did work for you. I’m just putting you in a category. You may go now.

 

[82_VOL_83]

You don’t know that it did work for you. I’m just putting you in a category. You may go now.

LOL, you don't know that it didn't. And I stand by my original words that at the time NO ONE knew FOR SURE other than Fauci and the awholes behind all this whether it did or didn't. I took my shots in March/April of 21. What did you know then? I mean KNOW, not think. I already know what group you are in. It isn't flattering.

 

[Jxn Vol]

LOL, you don't know that it didn't. And I stand by my original words that at the time NO ONE knew FOR SURE other than Fauci and the awholes behind all this whether it did or didn't. I took my shots in March/April of 21. What did you know then? I mean KNOW, not think. I already know what group you are in. It isn't flattering.

I know it didn’t have any long term safety data. Neither did Metal on metal hips or asbestos.

I’m in the unvaccinated group. The water here is great.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I know it didn’t have any long term safety data. Neither did Metal on metal hips or asbestos.

I’m in the unvaccinated group. The water here is great.

Good for you. I'm in the vaxed and boosted once group and I am just fine. Probably a good bit older than you also. Oh by the way, my wife that had cancer and went through some pretty vicious chemo in 2020, is just fine too.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Like masks work, schools should close, beaches are dangerous, 6ft for safety, came from a pangolin, people under 55 were high risk, vit d doesn't help, vax will completely prevent you from getting covid, vax or vent, etc? Things like that?

Now, you list some

I have a handy list I've kept. Figured I will refresh it for the newest Troll. He or she will not be around for much longer :

*********
- CV19 does not pose serious risk to the younger, healthy population
- closing down schools and extracurricular activities will not end a respiratory pandemic and will cause a number of harmful effects on children (educational loss, mental health problems, decreased physical fitness)
- the wiser initial approach should have been to protect those at risk while allowing the young/healthy population to develop natural immunity, hopefully shortening the pandemic and decreasing the opportunity for variants to emerge
- mRNA shots will not eliminate a respiratory virus nor prevent mutations, and they could even increase the development of new variants
- mRNA shots have both known and possibly unknown adverse effects
- cloth and surgical masks do not effectively stop the transmission of respiratory viruses, and they may cause adverse effects if worn for prolonged amounts of time
- the CV19 virus had very strange features, and both these and its area of origin strongly suggest that it was engineered
- our own government and its agencies have repeatedly lied about the origin of the virus, control methods, the testing and safety of vaccines, and the eventual outcome of the pandemic
- several safe treatment modalities have been shown to effective in certain trials, but they have been disparaged and mislabeled by the government, largely due to influence by large pharmaceutical corporations
- ivermectin is an extremely safe medication, won the nobel prize for treatment of human parasitic infections, has previously been shown to have antiviral properties, and could be useful in treating CV19 infection

 

[KptVFL]

That's where you lose credibility. That is simply not true. It is still being investigated.

Right-leaning scientists, or scientists associated with right-leaning groups, say that there is no definitive proof that it occurred naturally. Ergo, they claim likelihood is that it was man-made.

Others say that it is a common occurrence with viruses and the DNA is so closely matched that it appears to them that a natural transmission is the most likely source.

Anyone claiming to know for certain is not being intellectually honest.

I'm not 100% sure of anything.

You do need to look in a mirror though. Anyone saying that it's only a 5% chance that it came from a lab is not being intellectually honest, as well. That's where you lose credibility.

You are doing the exact same thing that you accuse others of.

Reflect on that!

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

LOL, you don't know that it didn't. And I stand by my original words that at the time NO ONE knew FOR SURE other than Fauci and the awholes behind all this whether it did or didn't. I took my shots in March/April of 21. What did you know then? I mean KNOW, not think. I already know what group you are in. It isn't flattering.

Fauci didn't KNOW **** regarding the efficacy of this. Fauci was going by what big pharma was telling him. He has the largest human trial in history and kept every one in the dark about it. He's one of the biggest criminals in history.

Did you know that prior to the rollout of this that no mRNA 'vaccine' EVER made it out of animal trials?

 

[82_VOL_83]

Fauci didn't KNOW **** regarding the efficacy of this. Fauci was going by what big pharma was telling him. He has the largest human trial in history and kept every one in the dark about it. He's one of the biggest criminals in history.

Did you know that prior to the rollout of this that no mRNA 'vaccine' EVER made it out of animal trials?

I may or may not have known. At this point I don't remember. I do remember it not being tested. However, we were acting on the advice of her Onco and other Drs at the time. They have also since changed their stance.

 

[volfanhill]

Fauci didn't KNOW **** regarding the efficacy of this. Fauci was going by what big pharma was telling him. He has the largest human trial in history and kept every one in the dark about it. He's one of the biggest criminals in history.

Did you know that prior to the rollout of this that no mRNA 'vaccine' EVER made it out of animal trials?

Trump gave him a presidential commendation for his work on those vaccines. For as much as you want Fauci hung by his toenails you sure bend over backwards for trumps actions. Trump could have prevented Fauci and the vaxes. Instead he honored him

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I may or may not have known. At this point I don't remember. I do remember it not being tested. However, we were acting on the advise of her Onco and other Drs at the time. They have also since changed their stance.

In aviation, the first thing you do when you have an emergency is wind the clock. The reason is that when you are winding the clock you aren't doing anything before thinking. I wish more people would have wound the clock when all this happened. The fear mongers like Fauci screamed fire in the theater. I guess that's why I want to see him hanged.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Trump gave him a presidential commendation for his work on those vaccines. For as much as you want Fauci hung by his toenails you sure bend over backwards for trumps actions. Trump could have prevented Fauci and the vaxes. Instead he honored him

Try harder. I have been critical of Trump for this.

 

[volfanhill]

Try harder. I have been critical of Trump for this.

Critical sure. But you want Fauci hung. Why would you support for POTUS the man who let Fauci happen? Why wouldn't you call for his execution too? Your criticism has been tepid at best. Excuse after excuse is really what it's been. A lot of yea but

 

[hUTch2002]

That’s great and all but we all know this isn’t going anywhere. It’s a waste of time. At this point there’s no changing minds and Fauci isn’t going to jail or being hung (sorry SpaceCoast).

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Critical sure. But you want Fauci hung. Why would you support for POTUS the man who let Fauci happen? Why wouldn't you call for his execution too? Your criticism has been tepid at best. Excuse after excuse is really what it's been. A lot of yea but

My my you are emotional