Vaccine or not?

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Vjcvette said:
No need to get nasty because I post that I received a vaccine, this thread is titled "Vaccine or not", where people can post their opinions, however if this thread is not for that purpose than maybe it should be titled "No Vaccine". Anyway from what I have observed and witnessed first hand in this thread there seems to be a lot of miserable people posting in here, miserable people tell on themselves all of the time, by name calling etc, so....have at it.
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Thank you Grover for defending me but alas no need. I was indeed being sardonic.
@Vjcvette Was there anything I said that wasn’t factual?
You just said you had your 7th jab for covid plus the flu shot every year, a pin cushion label qualifies.

You have no problem taking shots, you are happy with it.
You have posted it here several times.
There are no safety studies for receiving the flu shot and the covid jab at the same time. All Factual.



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NurseGoodVol said:
Thank you Grover for defending me but alas no need. I was indeed being sardonic.
@Vjcvette Was there anything I said that wasn’t factual?
You just said you had your 7th jab for covid plus the flu shot every year, a pin cushion label qualifies.

You have no problem taking shots, you are happy with it.
You have posted it here several times.
There are no safety studies for receiving the flu shot and the covid jab at the same time. All Factual.



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Who do you think you are kidding
Here, you can certainly be factual with out being nasty and hateful, and you certainly were. It is as much of a right of mine to get the vaccine as it is of yours not to and if getting shots every year qualifies someone to be a "Pincushion", then everyone is a "Pincushion" because people through the year take all kinds of shots. After all you did say you were being "Sardonic".
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
If Fauci flu was so virulent and so contagious, why did the test require a brain tickle initially? And now that it is far less virulent, why can you get by with an end if the nose sample? Is that logical?
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The CDC was releasing spread rates (after the cruise ship/china reporting) which were so high that a full quarantine of the global population would not stop the virus. I will note we didn't have a quarantine at all, it was simply a partial lock down i.e. restrict some movement. The CDC (government) knew there was no way of stopping everyone from getting it. Of course, you have to continue to lie with the whole face diaper, social distancing, jab is good, let's put people with a respiratory disease on a vent and order huge amounts of vents for no reason, etc.
 
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Vjcvette said:
Who do you think you are kidding
Here, you can certainly be factual with out being nasty and hateful, and you certainly were. It is as much of a right of mine to get the vaccine as it is of yours not to and if getting shots every year qualifies someone to be a "Pincushion", then everyone is a "Pincushion" because people through the year take all kinds of shots. After all you did say you were being "Sardonic".
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Was "vax or vent" factual without being nasty? Turns out both those things may be worse for most people than covid itself
 
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utvolpj said:
Was "vax or vent" factual without being nasty? Turns out both those things may be worse for most people than covid itself
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The vent was just as a big a lie as the mask, but we need to put it in context. The lie was that the nation needed all these vents and the hospitals were doing God's work. The vents had at best no negative outcome, at worst it probably caused a few more people to die. This was known before it really got going in the U.S. as the Chinese were sharing the data. All that 15 days to flatten the curve was just more lies which were known way before they happened.... why? The world already had the data. By 2021, the local hospitals here just started telling people if you have covid don't come here unless you come in ambulance because there isn't much we can do for you. What changed.... nothing. The realization of the lie which was told out in the open. Humans beg to be lied too.

masks - lie
social distancing - lie
lock downs - lie
15 days to flatten the curve - lie
vents and more vents - lie
horse medicine - lie
etc.
 
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Vjcvette said:
When someone has an adequate vocabulary they can state their position without calling names or being nasty.
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When you call people "miserable" for questioning, yes you are calling people names.

There is no real difference between calling someone a dickhead or saying they're being a dick.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
When you call people "miserable" for questioning, yes you are calling people names.

There is no real difference between calling someone a dickhead or saying they're being a dick.
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Hey.....you are grabbing at straws...no case and I will not be responding if there is no case.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
The vent was just as a big a lie as the mask, but we need to put it in context. The lie was that the nation needed all these vents and the hospitals were doing God's work. The vents had at best no negative outcome, at worst it probably caused a few more people to die. This was known before it really got going in the U.S. as the Chinese were sharing the data. All that 15 days to flatten the curve was just more lies which were known way before they happened.... why? The world already had the data. By 2021, the local hospitals here just started telling people if you have covid don't come here unless you come in ambulance because there isn't much we can do for you. What changed.... nothing. The realization of the lie which was told out in the open. Humans beg to be lied too.

masks - lie
social distancing - lie
lock downs - lie
15 days to flatten the curve - lie
vents and more vents - lie
horse medicine - lie
etc.
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I remember reading that hospitals were paid more per covid case when the patient was hooked up to a vent. Supposedly the settings being recommended for covid patients on a vent was damaging the lungs. That combined with the patient receiving remdesivir, which can do kidney damage, was essentially a death sentence.
Maybe @NurseGoodVol can chime in on this.

I was worried about it when covid started being mentioned. But a month or two later I started questioning things. Seeing someone from China just falling over while at a bus stop was strange. Even more strange, there was a camera on them when it happened.

The real part that made me say "wtf," was all these nurse/doctor dancing videos. Or a hospital saying how overwhelmed it was only to see video, from a citizen near that hospital, showing a completely empty ER the next day.


Do I think it was real? Yes.

Do I think it was the "flu on steroids" because of gain of function from the Wuhan Lab? Yes

Did it target an older age group or the immunocompromised? Yes

Does a N95 or paper/cloth mask stop a virus sphere at their size? No
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
I remember reading that hospitals were paid more per covid case when the patient was hooked up to a vent. Supposedly the settings being recommended for covid patients on a vent was damaging the lungs. That combined with the patient receiving remdesivir, which can do kidney damage, was essentially a death sentence.
Maybe @NurseGoodVol can chime in on this.

I was worried about it when covid started being mentioned. But a month or two later I started questioning things. Seeing someone from China just falling over while at a bus stop was strange. Even more strange, there was a camera on them when it happened.

The real part that made me say "wtf," was all these nurse/doctor dancing videos. Or a hospital saying how overwhelmed it was only to see video, from a citizen near that hospital, showing a completely empty ER the next day.


Do I think it was real? Yes.

Do I think it was the "flu on steroids" because of gain of function from the Wuhan Lab? Yes

Did it target an older age group or the immunocompromised? Yes

Does a N95 or paper/cloth mask stop a virus sphere at their size? No
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Yep.

Hospitals being "overwhelmed" was the biggest BS. We had hospitals in our system pre-ordering so many expendable supplies it was insane...and almost 70% of them went to waste. Panic, idiocy, and ignoring science and data drove the supply chain issues in this country in the medical world.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Bump for @Vjcvette
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Those tests they used were absolute hot garbage. I came down with the delta variant 3 years ago, and went to the doctor with a 102 degree fever and tested negative. I told them that I knew what I had, and I was told that my viral load wasn't high enough to test positive yet. It took 3 to 5 days of being ill to do that. I was dumbfounded. How many people were really ill and tested negative and thought they were good, so they went around vulnerable people saying "I tested negative! Don't worry!"??? Upon my return after being quite ill for days and still running about a 103 degree fever I tested positive. I asked for something for the terrible COVID cough, and was given a prescription. I told the doctor that I would have my mother fill the prescription because it was Sunday and my pharmacy wasn't open, so I would have to go to Walmart and didn't want to be around anyone vulnerable. He said; "Just wear your mask and it will be ok." I just stared at him blankly. I thought, "What a complete moron!"

I really hope that someday the medical community as a whole will admit just how wrong the "experts" were. A total disaster.
 
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Vjcvette said:
There was no name calling, it was a statement, so anyone who prefers can disagree with anything they like.
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Your statement was In extremely poor taste. Especially at the time. And you not owning up to it reveals your character.

I will admit I called you a pincushion and I stand behind it. Now I will call you a classless pincushion.

If you can’t own what you say then move along and post selfie pics in the face/screename thread in the pub. Let the folks in there prop up that fragile ego.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
When you call people "miserable" for questioning, yes you are calling people names.

There is no real difference between calling someone a dickhead or saying they're being a dick.
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Stop being a dick dickhead. Yep, I agree. Felt the same to me. This is a test of the emergency post removal system.
 
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