Vaccine or not?

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LSU-SIU said:
You posting a link is not a discussion, what do you want to discuss?

(if your point is they(mRNA) are vaccines, they are not under most law in this country... mostly immaterial though)

You don't have to justify any drugs you take, but if you post stuff that seems to be retarded in nature than you have to prepare for a question. You seem to be drive by posting i.e. implying/suggesting/etc. which is a form of bad faith. What you are doing is providing information (in an implied state) that nobody is promoting not even the evil medical doctors.
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Say what?? Yeah ok.....I am going back to earth now.
 
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#29,877
LSU-SIU said:
I believe (iirc) the initial data from China in early 2020 was like >98% of the people being put on vents never made it off, I seriously doubt any of the people ever made it out of the hospital. (going off memory) Most of what was happening was a lie, some lies had some truth to them, other lies were just naked. Again, the numbers can vary but I have serious doubt the vents helped the people with a respiratory disease.

The people that supposed died from covid more or less died from some other alignment, disease, condition, etc. that already existed. Covid simply quickened the pace. My bet is the vents contributed to additional deaths but I think that is a more difficult discussion.

The issue I have with her is more factual even at common sense level, nobody is promoting what she appears to be doing. She traded a somewhat know thing, to a whole thing that now includes serious unknown long term issues. Its her choice there.
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#29,878
#29,878
85SugarVol said:
I’m living just fine, unvaxxed and perfectly healthy.

Goes against the message you were pushing that was essentially “Vax or Die”.

Do make sure you run back to tell us about your 9th Covid shot though.
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The issue is, there really isn't an issue not really. She wants justification for what she had done. (I don't think she needs anyone's approval but she is seeking it)

The truth is the very vast majority of the population had nothing to be concern with, the issue I have with her is she is clearly promoting voodoo magic medicine that even the voodoo doctors are not promoting.

Its like having a discussion with Luther, he is 100% convinced a mask is going to save him.
 
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#29,882
85SugarVol said:
I’m living just fine, unvaxxed and perfectly healthy.

Goes against the message you were pushing that was essentially “Vax or Die”.

Do make sure you run back to tell us about your 9th Covid shot though.
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The covid vaccine I get next year will be my 8th.
 
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#29,883
LSU-SIU said:
The issue is, there really isn't an issue not really. She wants justification for what she had done. (I don't think she needs anyone's approval but she is seeking it)

The truth is the very vast majority of the population had nothing to be concern with, the issue I have with her is she is clearly promoting voodoo magic medicine that even the voodoo doctors are not promoting.

Its like having a discussion with Luther, he is 100% convinced a mask is going to save him.
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I am not seeking anyone's approval....and I have not promoted anything....I am vaccinated, so people can accept it or talk about it for the next 3 years, and as far as I know there is not one scientist in here...
 
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#29,884
Vjcvette said:
I am not seeking anyone's approval....and I have not promoted anything....I am vaccinated, so people can accept it or talk about it for the next 3 years, and as far as I know there is not one scientist in here...
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Yes, you are seeking approval, that's the lie. I don't care if you're vaccinated or not. Go take your 8th, 9th, or 20th dose.... throw in some meth while you're at it.

I know there is not one scientist in here
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What does that have to do with anything? The so called "scientists" told you to wear a stupid face diaper. We're here to discuss, which is not what you want to do..... I can't discuss with a non-existent "scientist". Yes, you are promoting stuff that nobody even the evil "scientists" are promoting, so where are you getting the information which you are implying and suggesting?

Nobody is forcing you post this stuff. You are not posting in good faith.

There might not be a "scientist" here, but you are talking voodoo medicine at this point.... which I am okay with if you actually explain yourself.
 
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Vjcvette said:
It was never "vax or Die", I mean you have repeated it for 3 years, "vax or vent", at least quote me right after 3 years of quoting me.
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Vax or Vent was the quote.
Vax or Die was the implication.

That’s what the word “essentially” conveys.

Let me know if I need to provide the definition for “convey” as well.
 
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Vjcvette said:
I am not seeking anyone's approval....and I have not promoted anything....I am vaccinated, so people can accept it or talk about it for the next 3 years, and as far as I know there is not one scientist in here...
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I'd still like you to explain why the tests required deep penetration into your head when it was virulent versus now.

Or do you believe it is still as contagious and deadly?
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Yes, you are seeking approval, that's the lie. I don't care if you're vaccinated or not. Go take your 8th, 9th, or 20th dose.... throw in some meth while you're at it.



What does that have to do with anything? The so called "scientists" told you to wear a stupid face diaper. We're here to discuss, which is not what you want to do..... I can't discuss with a non-existent "scientist". Yes, you are promoting stuff that nobody even the evil "scientists" are promoting, so where are you getting the information which you are implying and suggesting?

Nobody is forcing you post this stuff. You are not posting in good faith.

There might not be a "scientist" here, but you are talking voodoo medicine at this point.... which I am okay with if you actually explain yourself.
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It has everything to do with all of these conversations and I am on a 55k sq ft, sales floor making a living, just glance at my phone now and then so your long comments will not be read.
 
#29,890
#29,890
85SugarVol said:
Vax or Vent was the quote.
Vax or Die was the implication.

That’s what the word “essentially” conveys.

Let me know if I need to provide the definition for “convey” as well.
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Like I commented on a previous post, I am on a 55k sq ft sales floor making a living glancing at my phone now and then, Long messages are not read.
 
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#29,895
utvolpj said:
It's a discussion thread. If you don't like someone commenting on and challenging your views then choose not to participate
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Yes I can debate in a decent manner with out name calling and acting like a 5th grader, you Sir should never be a staff member or a monitor of anything....Nada...
 
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#29,897
Vjcvette said:
Yes I can debate in a decent manner with out name calling and acting like a 5th grader, you Sir should never be a staff member or a monitor of anything....Nada...
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Vax or vent is a middle school level statement. Claiming you're getting the vax so you don't get covid tells me you stopped reading about it in 2021

You only feel insulted because you're completely married to your ideas. It's clear it's a big part of your identity
 
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Vjcvette said:
Yes I can debate in a decent manner with out name calling and acting like a 5th grader, you Sir should never be a staff member or a monitor of anything....Nada...
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You are not doing any such thing, I pinpointed how you were not acting in good faith. When you are even slightly challenged you deflect with the most recent example, "there are no scientists here", "ask a scientist".

A "scientist" isn't here as you said, you entered the discussion.

You are clearly looking for validation, which in my opinion you don't have justify. The problem is what you are writing makes little sense that I can see, nor are you reasonably provide information to clear things up. You can block whoever you want but you are not acting in good faith.

It appears you have plenty of time, the problem isn't that you don't have time... its that you have no intention of acting in a reasonable manner in a forum. You have to give respect to get it.
 
#29,899
#29,899
utvolpj said:
Vax or vent is a middle school level statement. Claiming you're getting the vax so you don't get covid tells me you stopped reading about it in 2021

You only feel insulted because you're completely married to your ideas. It's clear it's a big part of your identity
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I am not insulted at all, I just wish that I could put you on ignore also, or that you would find something better to do than to
Continue talking to me
 
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