Vaccine or not?

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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
Unless it's happeneing at the same rate to those who took the vbaccine,
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It is. There is literally no difference in those who took the vaccine and those who didn’t.

You would likely be better off today had you taken the vaccine as people who became extremely ill are more likely to experience symptoms than those who didn’t.

But that was your choice.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
It is. There is literally no difference in those who took the vaccine and those who didn’t.

You would likely be better off today had you taken the vaccine as people who became extremely ill are more likely to experience symptoms than those who didn’t.

But that was your choice.
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Your right, because that simply isn't true. Sweden alone proves that. They didn't have the same rate of these conditions. Your answer has much more to do with defending your position then the actual results. The MRNA "Vaccines" did not show ANY IMPROVEMENT for fending off covid. There is quite a bit of evidence showing they weakened immune systems making both that condition worse and many others worse. That is all before we look at the DNA conatmination leading to turbo cancers, and the other issues with the hastily run out MRNA technology. However you will never accept that, because of cognitive dissonance. You really are not in the position you think you are to be smug.
 
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The idea that the MRNA vaccines helped prevent, or any way lesson effects of covid, and then that the remaining issue is side effects is bogus. It was never effective in the first place, and was actually countereffective in the long haul. Meaning you were likely to do worse in the long run because of the effects on immune system.

 
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I'm sure this is where I'll hear about confirmation bias, and triple blind studies etc. Look there's no shortage of bogus million dollar reports to try and protect the billions in profits.....but the evidence simply isn't there. If it were they'd hang it from the rafters.
 
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Using Sweden as an example actually proves Slice's point.

Sweden's death rate decreased from 2019 to 2024 and they were one of the most vaccinated countries in the world....

It does prove the lockdowns were stupid and ineffective.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Using Sweden as an example actually proves Slice's point.

Sweden's death rate decreased from 2019 to 2024 and they were one of the most vaccinated countries in the world....

It does prove the lockdowns were stupid and ineffective.
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What color is the sky in your world?



Sweden did not do lockdowns, and they did not mandate vaccines, yet MANY people did get them...voluntarily. Still had the same issues.

 
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I like (and the people who make actual economic decisions based on the data) using actual numbers and not arbitrarially manipulating trend lines with assumptions.

Here is the actual death rate in Sweden

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While we are at it, let's look at the per day cancer deaths in the US

2019 - 1,663
2022 - 1,667
2023 - 1,671
2024 - 1,672
 
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At that this point I rank Mrna vaccinese "are safe and effective" in the same catagory as flat earthers. People's cognitive dissonance has caused them to completely ignore reality.....

Meanwhile, serious researchers are trying to counter the damage done.

 
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In any case, I guess you will accept or not accept based on your world view. But at this point it's not about truth. MRNA vax was not effective, and it has caused MANY MANY health issues. Keep on fighting that battle of 3-4 years ago to assuage poor decisions though.
 
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More on how they play with numbers to defend the vaccine.

theethicalskeptic.com

A Case Study in Covid-19 Vaccine Related Death Certificate Fraud

While graphs and statistics run by no-skin-in-the-game amateurs can offer insights, they may lack the context and nuance necessary for informed decision-making, particularly in complex systems such as exist in our aggregations of national medical diagnostic data. This is how fake science...
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The report from the House select committee on COVID is out. To summarize, COVID came from the Wuhan lab, gain of function in Wuhan was funded by US taxpayers and not disclosed, no evidence that masks and social distancing work, and other lies being debunked.

COVID 'most likely' leaked from Wuhan lab, social distancing 'not based on science,' select committee finds | Fox News

The Congressional Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic released its final 520-page report on Monday, revealing details the origin of the virus.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

"There's all of this concern about what's gain-of-function or what's not, with the implication that that research led to SARS-CoV-2, and COVID-19, which, George, unequivocally anybody that knows anything about viral biology and phylogeny of viruses know that it is molecularly impossible for those viruses that were worked on to turn into SARS-CoV-2 because they were distant enough molecularly that no matter what you did to them, they could never, ever become SARS-CoV-2. And yet when people talk about gain-of-function, they make that implication which I think is unconscionable to do, to say, 'Well, maybe that research led to SARS-CoV-2.’ You can ask any person of good faith who's a virologist, and they will tell you, absolutely clearly, that that would be molecularly impossible."

- Anthony Fauci, October 21, 2024
 
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The States that saw the largest increase in cancer death rates from 2019 to 2022

WV, OK, TX, TN, GA, MD, MO, MI, IN, ME, KY

9/11 are below 65% fully vax. TX is close.


The states that saw the biggest decrease in cancer death rates in that same timeframe

RI, ID, IL, SD, MA, KS, NY, WA, UT, ND, MN

9/11 are above 65% fully vax. KS was just over that threshold.
 
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jwells said:
That he did his job the best he could and was made out to be some super villain by open mouth breathing idiots.
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So it doesn't bother you that he took his 'gain of function' research to an openly hostile country. What is 'gain of function' research anyway? Care to opine on that? Is it necessary to take an normally benign pathogen and supercharge it to lethal levels to study it?
 
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