Vaccine or not?

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Orangeslice13 said:
I’ve been saying that in this thread forever.
If the “side effects” are happening at the same rate to the unvaccinated then the vaccine isn’t a problem.
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To say the vaccine is not a problem is asinine. Below are a few well known and established facts that beg to differ with your position that they are totally safe.

1. The spike protein produced by these vaccines is toxic and linked to immune-related complications.

2. Pfizer’s own data shows lipid nanoparticles (LNPs) and modRNA spreading throughout the body—including the liver, spleen, ovaries, and adrenal glands.

3. Spike protein production wasn’t limited to the injection site, contradicting early claims.

4. Within just three months of rollout, Pfizer’s post-authorization data revealed 1,223 deaths and a flood of serious adverse events.

5. Reports of adverse events after COVID-19 vaccines skyrocketed, far surpassing those for any prior vaccine, yet no significant action was taken.

I totally agree with you that health complications can come from the actual virus in addition to the vaccine. I am grateful that you haven't had any complications from the vaccine but to turn a blind eye to the large group of people who have not fared as well as you have in this regards is pretty heartless.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
So it doesn't bother you that he took his 'gain of function' research to an openly hostile country. What is 'gain of function' research anyway? Care to opine on that? Is it necessary to take an normally benign pathogen and supercharge it to lethal levels to study it?
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Neither of us are virologists. All their work was open and public, as it used public dollars. You're trying to pin the tail on the donkey here. Just looking for someone to blame.

Also I thought it was "just the flu" and "not that bad?"
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
Your right, because that simply isn't true. Sweden alone proves jack ****.
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Lololol
Take it up with the smart people at the infectious diseases center who don’t have time for tinfoil hat nonsense.

The real numbers are what they are and there’s no difference in the amount of side effects between vac vs unvaccinated.
 
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jwells said:
This thread really hammers home the kind of people we have in the fanbase. It's insane. I can't imagine just believing random Twitter posts wholesale while denying reality.
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You and I disagree on a lot of things but the numbers are what they are.
VolinWayne said:
To say the vaccine is not a problem is asinine. Below are a few well known and established facts that beg to differ with your position that they are totally safe.

1. The spike protein produced by these vaccines is toxic and linked to immune-related complications.

2. Pfizer’s own data shows lipid nanoparticles (LNPs) and modRNA spreading throughout the body—including the liver, spleen, ovaries, and adrenal glands.

3. Spike protein production wasn’t limited to the injection site, contradicting early claims.

4. Within just three months of rollout, Pfizer’s post-authorization data revealed 1,223 deaths and a flood of serious adverse events.

5. Reports of adverse events after COVID-19 vaccines skyrocketed, far surpassing those for any prior vaccine, yet no significant action was taken.

I totally agree with you that health complications can come from the actual virus in addition to the vaccine. I am grateful that you haven't had any complications from the vaccine but to turn a blind eye to the large group of people who have not fared as well as you have in this regards is pretty heartless.
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There’s a reason that no personal injury lawyer is trying to sue. And don’t give me the immunity BS that would be easy to penetrate if any of what you aledged is true.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
It’s amazing how many people are willing to just believe anything if they want it to be true
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I’ve witnessed vax deaths and injuries. It wasn’t safe. It wasn’t effective. My now dead 47 year old friend with 2 teen daughters is proof enough.

It’s a clot shot that has the potential to cause severe cardiac damage.

The kicker is it could take years to die from the damage. So the genius spouting insurance stats may want to wait a bit.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
I’ve witnessed vax deaths and injuries. It wasn’t safe. It wasn’t effective. My now dead 47 year old friend with 2 teen daughters is proof enough.

It’s a clot shot that has the potential to cause severe cardiac damage.

The kicker is it could take years to die from the damage. So the genius spouting insurance stats may want to wait a bit.
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You have been saying wait til next year more often than the Dallas Cowboys when I bring up the insurance stats.....
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
You have been saying wait til next year more often than the Dallas Cowboys when I bring up the insurance stats.....
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It’s clinically accurate. A bout of myocarditis or pericarditis has a severe mortality rate at 5 years. 14-20% in some studies.

So yeah it’s sort of relevant and appropriate to bring up.

Folks with a balloon note had a low house payment until it increased at the 5 year mark. Kind of like that
 
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Jxn Vol said:
It’s clinically accurate. A bout of myocarditis or pericarditis has a severe mortality rate at 5 years. 14-20% in some studies.

So yeah it’s sort of relevant and appropriate to bring up.

Folks with a balloon note had a low house payment until it increased at the 5 year mark. Kind of like that
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First, sorry about your friend. I've never said the incidents are 0. But it hasnt been 12 million excess deaths in the US each year like others have claimed. My thoughts all along have been (and the data backs me up to date) is the lockdowns did a whole lot more damage than the vax ever has or ever will. Ive been consistent in saying mandates were stupid and that in 2021 it made no sense unless you were fat, old, or had something preexisitng....

Second, Im not disagreeing that something could pop next year. If it does, I'll admit I was wrong. But, these goalposts have been moved. It was 6 months, then a year, then 18 months, then 24 months. Now, it's 5 years.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
I’ve witnessed vax deaths and injuries. It wasn’t safe. It wasn’t effective. My now dead 47 year old friend with 2 teen daughters is proof enough.

It’s a clot shot that has the potential to cause severe cardiac damage.

The kicker is it could take years to die from the damage. So the genius spouting insurance stats may want to wait a bit.
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Guy up the street just died of clots. 42 years old and unvaccinated.

Just saying
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
First, sorry about your friend. I've never said the incidents are 0. But it hasnt been 12 million excess deaths in the US each year like others have claimed. My thoughts all along have been (and the data backs me up to date) is the lockdowns did a whole lot more damage than the vax ever has or ever will. Ive been consistent in saying mandates were stupid and that in 2021 it made no sense unless you were fat, old, or had something preexisitng....

Second, Im not disagreeing that something could pop next year. If it does, I'll admit I was wrong. But, these goalposts have been moved. It was 6 months, then a year, then 18 months, then 24 months. Now, it's 5 years.
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I’ve always qualified it as 5 years is when damage can manifest. With some folks having issues before or after. But there is a navy or Air Force surgeon that discusses this, I will try to find the clip.

I can’t help what others put on here but I’ve been relatively consistent on that one topic.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Guy up the street just died of clots. 42 years old and unvaccinated.

Just saying
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We can trade anecdotes all day. Fact is I am not at risk for a vax injury. And nobody that took the shot knows if they have damage yet. Forgive me if I’m a bit rigid on this topic. But it’s plain common sense at this point.

Now you can discuss the comorbidities and the justifications for taking the clot shot. Lather rinse repeat.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
We can trade anecdotes all day. Fact is I am not at risk for a vax injury. And nobody that took the shot knows if they have damage yet. Forgive me if I’m a bit rigid on this topic. But it’s plain common sense at this point.

Now you can discuss the comorbidities and the justifications for taking the clot shot. Lather rinse repeat.
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Fact is you’re at the same risk as everyone else.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
Zero risk of vax injury. Have you taken all the boosters? If not you are as unvaccinated as I am. Cheers
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It’s an interesting coping mechanism you have there
Denial won’t help you any. You are at the same risk as anyone else vaccinated/unvaccinated. It doesn’t matter. It’s happening to everyone at the same rate.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
It’s an interesting coping mechanism you have there
Denial won’t help you any. You are at the same risk as anyone else vaccinated/unvaccinated. It doesn’t matter. It’s happening to everyone at the same rate.
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Nope, unvaccinated folks haven't had their immune system compromised by the toxic jabs. Harvard and Oxford recently released reports which confirm that. The more jabs the more damage to your immune system which eventually will stop working as intended. Unvaccinated sperm is the new crypto 🤣
 
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FLVOL69 said:
Nope, unvaccinated folks haven't had their immune system compromised by the toxic jabs. Harvard and Oxford recently released reports which confirm that. The more jabs the more damage to your immune system which eventually will stop working as intended. Unvaccinated sperm is the new crypto 🤣
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Hey look at those goalposts way over there.
 
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I have to say- I have taken my 8th COVID Vaccine shot. It has helped me avoid this dreadful disease. Case in point, while at the beach, my wife contracted COVID. Before she took the COVID test, we shared everything, activities, drinks, food, beds, etc. I never got it. In February, I plan to get vaccinated against COVID. I will continue to get The Vax as long as possible.

I am pro vax when it's right for you. Do what works for you.
 
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FortSanders said:
I have to say- I have taken my 8th COVID Vaccine shot. It has helped me avoid this dreadful disease. Case in point, while at the beach, my wife contracted COVID. Before she took the COVID test, we shared everything, activities, drinks, food, beds, etc. I never got it. In February, I plan to get vaccinated against COVID. I will continue to get The Vax as long as possible.

I am pro vax when it's right for you. Do what works for you.
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I'm happy it's worked well for you. I think a lot of the anger that's still coming from those of us who refused to take the shot is we were all marginalized and treated like scum for refusing to take a shot that they advertised as a vaccine when in reality it was nothing more then gene therapy. Thousands of people lost their jobs for refusing to take a shot that's now been proven to have serious side effects for many people. Fortunately for you it has worked out well but that doesn't change the fact that thousands of real people were not as fortunate as you.
 
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