Vaccine or not?

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kiddiedoc said:
Nobody is quite sure what exactly causes the myocardial damage/inflammation.
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But would you say given the article you cited with no spike protein detected after the second shot and myocarditis occurring mostly after the second shot that direct involvement of the spike protein in the myocardium is unlikely if not implausible? Also do you have any evidence that even suggests that multiple vaccinations will lead to spike protein accumulating in organs and tissues?
 
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Pepe_Silvia said:
You better be a woman if you're gonna talk to me that way.
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ENGRVOL said:
But would you say given the article you cited with no spike protein detected after the second shot and myocarditis occurring mostly after the second shot that direct involvement of the spike protein in the myocardium is unlikely if not implausible? Also do you have any evidence that even suggests that multiple vaccinations will lead to spike protein accumulating in organs and tissues?
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Little to no data yet with detailed autopsy analysis of organs after vaccination. It's too early to tell anything.

There's no good explanation for myocarditis yet, either, but spike protein damage is known to be a key mediator of illness in natural CV infection, so it would naturally be a leading candidate.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Little to no data yet with detailed autopsy analysis of organs after vaccination. It's too early to tell anything.

There's no good explanation for myocarditis yet, either, but spike protein damage is known to be a key mediator of illness in natural CV infection, so it would naturally be a leading candidate.
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But the risk of myocarditis seems like a somewhat weak reason for not getting vaccinated since it's also a risk of natural infection.
 
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bamawriter said:
But the risk of myocarditis seems like a somewhat weak reason for not getting vaccinated since it's also a risk of natural infection.
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So should someone that might be at risk for a heart ailment and has had ChinaFlu also get the 'vaccine'?
 
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AshG said:
People just need to stop tiptoeing around the issue and say "I will be dead of old age by the time there's enough data for me to even consider getting this jab."
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Didn't it take 5 years for the great scientists to realize Thalidomide was a problem. Some people are skeptical of a drug studied for a year to be totally safe whether it is or not, especially when this is already headed towards a government mandate.
 
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Get Vaccinated or Stay in Jail! New York judges order defendants to get COVID-19 shots as part of plea deals and bail agreements (but is it even legal?)

  • A New York judge ordered a defendant to get the COVID-19 vaccine as part of his plea deal, while another made it part of a drug dealing suspect's bail terms
A New York judge ordered a defendant to get the COVID-19 vaccine as part of his plea deal, while another made it part of a drug dealing suspect's bail terms, as an attorney said judges have no unilateral authority to mandate vaccination.

Recently, in a rare move, Manhattan judge Jed Rakoff granted the release of Elouisa Pimental, a woman accused of drug dealing, on the condition she get vaccinated.

New York judges ORDER defendants to get vaccinated as part of plea deals and bail agreements | Daily Mail Online
 
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Gladiator1 said:
Didn't it take 5 years for the great scientists to realize Thalidomide was a problem. Some people are skeptical of a drug studied for a year to be totally safe whether it is or not, especially when this is already headed towards a government mandate.
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Define "great scientists."

You're pointing at one drug that predated the realization that smoking was bad for you. If you want to point at what amounts to medical antiquity then you do you, but applying that thalidomide argument to this vaccine largely amounts to hyperbole.

It's not debatable that the vaccine is keeping more people from getting sicker and dying, it's also keeping our hospitals from being completely over run.

Meanwhile, I'm sure the same people will keep shoving bacon, ham and other processed meats (aka Group 1 carcinogens) down your gullet while grousing about what "might happen" with the vaccine.
 
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Gladiator1 said:
Didn't it take 5 years for the great scientists to realize Thalidomide was a problem. Some people are skeptical of a drug studied for a year to be totally safe whether it is or not, especially when this is already headed towards a government mandate.
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It's been studied for way longer than a year. MRNA technology has been around for 15-20 years.
 
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bamawriter said:
It's been studied for way longer than a year. MRNA technology has been around for 15-20 years.
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It's incredible technology. I heard on the radio today that there's a HIV vaccine going into trial soon that uses this technology.
 
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