Vaccine or not?

We are only operating on patients that will not require an overnight stay. It’s not because of actual bed shortage. It’s due to staffing shortage. A lot of the clinical staff that could retire last year during the shutdown decided not to come back. And some are taking travel assignments for more money.
Imagine that. LOL
 
Very succinct and apt comment heard today: "No, you can't be forced to get the vaccine. On the other hand, if you simply decline to do so for anything other than a legitimate medical reason, you lose out on certain privileges and benefits of being out and about because you have chosen to put others at risk."
 
Very succinct and apt comment heard today: "No, you can't be forced to get the vaccine. On the other hand, if you simply decline to do so for anything other than a legitimate medical reason, you lose out on certain privileges and benefits of being out and about because you have chosen to put others at risk."
No, I haven't.

Truth be told, wasting vaccines on people who are unarguably immune rather than giving them to underprivileged people around the world in areas where variants are most likely to emerge IS putting others at risk.
 
Very succinct and apt comment heard today: "No, you can't be forced to get the vaccine. On the other hand, if you simply decline to do so for anything other than a legitimate medical reason, you lose out on certain privileges and benefits of being out and about because you have chosen to put others at risk."

Did you hear that at your MENSA meeting?
 
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Very succinct and apt comment heard today: "No, you can't be forced to get the vaccine. On the other hand, if you simply decline to do so for anything other than a legitimate medical reason, you lose out on certain privileges and benefits of being out and about because you have chosen to put others at risk."

I haven’t lost out on anything. I’m still living life 👍
 
Very succinct and apt comment heard today: "No, you can't be forced to get the vaccine. On the other hand, if you simply decline to do so for anything other than a legitimate medical reason, you lose out on certain privileges and benefits of being out and about because you have chosen to put others at risk."
If you are vaccinated and consider yourself at risk then your vaccine sucks
 
So I know that we haven’t seen the actual order yet, but the more I think about this the more confusing it is becoming. If this were truly about the safety of employees, shouldn’t this apply to every business with more than one employee? What makes 99 the magic number?

Secondly, let’s say for example you own a lot of restaurants. Your company employs more than 99 people, but at no time are there 99 employees working at the same location. Yet you have to abide by this rule, while other business, plants, factories, offices etc, who have 95 people working in the same building don’t have to.
This is us. We have 900+ Employees spread out over 82 retail locations, 12 wholesale warehouses, 2 regional offices and 1 corporate HQ (spread out over 3 buildings). Our main office at HQ probably has 50-60 people in it tops, when it’s full. We’re permanently under a hybrid system with less than 50% of that number in the office at any one time; my building houses 10 people in total in an office designed to house probably 30. Our retails don’t employ more than 8-10 and given that it’s agriculture, they’re outside on site at minimum and likely on a farm or piece of equipment somewhere.
 
No, I haven't.

Truth be told, wasting vaccines on people who are unarguably immune rather than giving them to underprivileged people around the world in areas where variants are most likely to emerge IS putting others at risk.
Interesting case I heard about today.
The red women went for a visit to our GP. A nurse who works there is out with Covid. Had the antibody treatment and is doing well. She was fully vaccinated, but here’s the kicker. She has also had Covid before. Confirmed both times with multiple tests.

I believe I’d find another line of work if I were her.
 
If you are vaccinated and consider yourself at risk then your vaccine sucks


A vaccine doesn't 100 percent prevent transmission. But it dramatically reduces it and even more substantially reduces risk of bad outcome.

Yours is THE WORST argument of the anti vaxx crowd. If it's not 100 percent protection it's not worthwhile. Just so dumb.
 
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We are only operating on patients that will not require an overnight stay. It’s not because of actual bed shortage. It’s due to staffing shortage. A lot of the clinical staff that could retire last year during the shutdown decided not to come back. And some are taking travel assignments for more money.
This is what needs reporting. The media and hospitals aren’t telling lies but they are telling half-truths, knowing the conclusions that society will draw from their statements.
 
A vaccine doesn't 100 percent prevent transmission. But it dramatically reduces it and even more substantially reduces risk of bad outcome.

Yours is THE WORST argument of the anti vaxx crowd. If it's not 100 percent protection it's not worthwhile. Just so dumb.
The government is not supposed to keep you safe. That is up to you.

It is to keep you free!!!

Go sit in the corner you commie. With a couple of masks on.
 
A vaccine doesn't 100 percent prevent transmission. But it dramatically reduces it and even more substantially reduces risk of bad outcome.

Yours is THE WORST argument of the anti vaxx crowd. If it's not 100 percent protection it's not worthwhile. Just so dumb.
It reduces your bad outcome so again what’s the concern to a vaccinated person? Since when did avoiding feeling sick when you’re sick become the baseline? If we admit that all vaccines lack 100% efficiency in preventing infection and/or transmission then the goal should be non-hospitalization and death. If that’s the overwhelming case for the vaccinated then all should be good. The overflowing hospital “concern” is a cop out for individuals. When was the last time our nation was this compassionate for their fellow man? In the most divided state we’ve been in since perhaps Vietnam at best and The War Between the States at worst, suddenly we have this mass faction that suddenly cares about strangers with this level of vigor?
 
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That really sucks.
why would high risk have anything to do with the monoclonal antibody treatment? My Dr is writing it for everyone who tested positive. I’ve been told if I test positive to expect that treatment.
crazy that they would not give it to him unless it was an age thing.

We have been doing monoclonal antibody treatment as well, but now the fed says it won’t be distributing as much, therefore, our state will be rationing this important treatment.
 
We have been doing monoclonal antibody treatment as well, but now the fed says it won’t be distributing as much, therefore, our state will be rationing this important treatment.

President said Thursday he was increasing MAb availability by 50%.
 
I have no doubt you don’t grasp the details. It’s a therapeutic not a vaccine. I don’t care what they call it.

Ask the Israelis how wonderful it is.

Israel cut the death and icu rate by 70% in the most recent spike. People like to talk about Israel without context and usually don’t know what they are talking about
 
Israel cut the death and icu rate by 70% in the most recent spike. People like to talk about Israel without context and usually don’t know what they are talking about
Based on some of the stuff that has been brought over here, I think there are some anti-vaxxers who are just using the language barrier to lie about what is happening there.
 
Based on some of the stuff that has been brought over here, I think there are some anti-vaxxers who are just using the language barrier to lie about what is happening there.
Anybody that claims to know what is really going on at this point is full of shiite.
 

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