Vaccine or not?

Keep taking joy in the death of children.

This should tell you all you need to know about some progressives. When you don't follow the rules of their elite gods then you see how foul they really are. The phony compassion for humanity is out the window.

I heard someone very smart say you don't replace something without filling it with something else. Many progressives have replaced God with government. Government is the ultimate truth. That is why it's easier for them to submit their freedoms to them.
 
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Without customers we have no need for employees, should I sacrifice all employees livelihoods for a few that refuse?
For me it's a question of trade off. Lose 20% of clients, or lose 20% of staff. Even trade that could go either way. Cant imagine it's easy for you to replace 20% of your staff over night and not have a drop off. And that 20% probably isnt relegated to the floor sweepers.

What happens if it's worse? Lose 20% of business or lose 30/40% of your workforce. Or take whatever the average is for your area of unvaxxed. In this market, could you even replace that percentage of your lowest workers? Yet alone office workers, or anyone with specialized training or CDLs?

It takes workers to get work done, so your review of policy needs to consider the staffing side of things.
 
If you’re unvaccinated and never had Covid you should definitely run out and catch Covid. Catching Covid is definitely the best defense against catching Covid again.
Apparently it is.

90% chance you dont have symptoms. 8% chance you have flu like symptoms, 1.6% chance you end up in hospital, .4% chance you die.

And then afterwards you are 27x less likely to deal with issues than just the vax. So the vax rates compared to above would have to be 27x better to say it's the best option. With delta we are seeing 50% differences over unvaxxed.

So .5 or 27, the math says what the math says.

If You are only worried about Covid once, sure the vax is better. But if you are worried about constant exposure to Covid, or are trying to live a generally normal life, and might get it a second time, natural immunity is better, and both is best.

No idea why the simple facts that are coming out upset people. It's called an immune system, they generally work, it's not some wild concept to say it's our best defense.
 
Apparently it is.

90% chance you dont have symptoms. 8% chance you have flu like symptoms, 1.6% chance you end up in hospital, .4% chance you die.

And then afterwards you are 27x less likely to deal with issues than just the vax. So the vax rates compared to above would have to be 27x better to say it's the best option. With delta we are seeing 50% differences over unvaxxed.

So .5 or 27, the math says what the math says.

If You are only worried about Covid once, sure the vax is better. But if you are worried about constant exposure to Covid, or are trying to live a generally normal life, and might get it a second time, natural immunity is better, and both is best.

No idea why the simple facts that are coming out upset people. It's called an immune system, they generally work, it's not some wild concept to say it's our best defense.


If you’ve never had Covid the vaccine is the smart play.
If you are concerned you’ve already had it then test for antibodies before getting the vaccine.

Just don’t lie to yourself in order to avoid a vaccine you’re scared of.
 
Ok it’s a vaccine.

A vaccine that doesn’t stop you from getting it again or guarantee you won’t still die from Covid.

So it’s a vaccine in the same realm that the Edsel was a car and Pepsi Clear was branded as the next great soft drink.
You are just soooooo wrong. The vaccine has proven highly successful. How many times do you have to be reminded that no vaccine in history has been. 100% successful. This vaccine has prevented millions of infections and vastly reduced the spread and spared hundreds of thousands of families from losing a loved one. You may not be a stupid person but you're playing one on VN.
 
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If you’ve never had Covid the vaccine is the smart play.
If you are concerned you’ve already had it then test for antibodies before getting the vaccine.

Just don’t lie to yourself in order to avoid a vaccine you’re scared of.
Cdc is recommending not to check antibodies before vaccine.
 
89.8% of people over age 18 in Ireland have been vaccinated.

Covid-19 Vaccine Tracker: How many people have been inoculated in Ireland?

I don’t know why you people keep falling for this ****.
Over half the covid patients that require hospitalizations are vaccinated. This wasn't supposed to be the narrative that is being pushed. Vaccination narrative went from you won't get it to, you want get really sick. This demonstrates, that's not the case. Do you actually read the posts?
 
I think he’s talking about vaccinated pts in the hospital. Not just vaccinated.

But, as the number of vaccinated people approaches 100%, the rate of occurrence of bad outcomes among vaccinated people will necessarily approach 100%.

Using “54% of hospitalizations among vaccinated people” to question the vaccine is like using a cliche tourist photograph from the leaning tower of Pisa to insinuate that someone is really strong.
 
But, as the number of vaccinated people approaches 100%, the rate of occurrence of bad outcomes among vaccinated people will necessarily approach 100%.

Using “54% of hospitalizations among vaccinated people” to question the vaccine is like using a cliche tourist photograph from the leaning tower of Pisa to insinuate that someone is really strong.
So you are speaking about numbers only not effectiveness.
 
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If you’ve never had Covid the vaccine is the smart play.
If you are concerned you’ve already had it then test for antibodies before getting the vaccine.

Just don’t lie to yourself in order to avoid a vaccine you’re scared of.
You are not taking age and risk factors into consideration. Young healthy people would be better off not taking it based on the numbers.

I swear some of y’all don’t have a clue or trust how our immune system works. Y’all must have stock in the vaccine companies. This virus has made folks completely abandon basic principles of medical science.
 
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You are just soooooo wrong. The vaccine has proven highly successful. How many times do you have to be reminded that no vaccine in history has been. 100% successful. This vaccine has prevented millions of infections and vastly reduced the spread and spared hundreds of thousands of families from losing a loved one. You may not be a stupid person but you're playing one on VN.
I assume you will give Trump credit for helping fast track it through utilizing the private sector. Since it’s so good. And you think you are so knowledgeable on the subject
 
But, as the number of vaccinated people approaches 100%, the rate of occurrence of bad outcomes among vaccinated people will necessarily approach 100%.

Using “54% of hospitalizations among vaccinated people” to question the vaccine is like using a cliche tourist photograph from the leaning tower of Pisa to insinuate that someone is really strong.
So you are speaking about numbers only not effectiveness.
If 90% are vaccinated but only 56% of the hospitalized have been vaccinated, then being vaccinated makes you 8 times less likely to be hospitalized with COVID.
Just doing the math on those numbers.
 
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