Vaccine or not?

[luthervol]

Over half the covid patients that require hospitalizations are vaccinated. This wasn't supposed to be the narrative that is being pushed. Vaccination narrative went from you won't get it to, you want get really sick. This demonstrates, that's not the case. Do you actually read the posts?

What those numbers tell us is that having a vaccine makes you 8 times less likely to be hospitalized with COVID.
Amazingly, not what the headline was trying to get across to the anti-vax crowd.

 

[RockyTop85]

So you are speaking about numbers only not effectiveness.

I’m not sure how you come to that conclusion.

If the rate of hospitalization is significantly higher among unvaccinated people, as appears to be the case in Ireland, that would be evidence of effectiveness.

 

[Hunerwadel]

I assume you will give Trump credit for helping fast track it through utilizing the private sector. Since it’s so good. And you think you are so knowledgeable on the subject

He gets credit for Warp Speed which set the stage for the vaccines. For overall handling of the pandemic his leadership or lack thereof caused a lot of unnecessary deaths IMO.

 

[tnmarktx]

What those numbers tell us is that having a vaccine makes you 8 times less likely to be hospitalized with COVID.
Amazingly, not what the headline was trying to get across to the anti-vax crowd.

Again, just from this post out of 100% of covid patients that require hospitalizations 54% of them are fully vaccinated. People need to read the posts.

 

[Jxn Vol]

He gets credit for Warp Speed which set the stage for the vaccines. For overall handling of the pandemic his leadership or lack thereof caused a lot of unnecessary deaths IMO.

Ignorance is not an excuse.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Everything I could find

What 'numbers' did you use regarding long term effects of the 'vaccines'?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

If you’ve never had Covid the vaccine is the smart play.
If you are concerned you’ve already had it then test for antibodies before getting the vaccine.

Just don’t lie to yourself in order to avoid a vaccine you’re scared of.

If you have had the 'vaccine' have you been antibody tested? At what point are you going to get re-tested? Or do you just assume that you have antibodies and get the booster when the nanny government tells you to? That, frankly doesn't sound like someone that 'crunches numbers' in making a decision about all of this.

 

[headhunter15]

Any man does this to my wife, and we are going to have some big problems.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

You are just soooooo wrong. The vaccine has proven highly successful. How many times do you have to be reminded that no vaccine in history has been. 100% successful. This vaccine has prevented millions of infections and vastly reduced the spread and spared hundreds of thousands of families from losing a loved one. You may not be a stupid person but you're playing one on VN.

So no one has died as a result of it?

 

[evillawyer]

What those numbers tell us is that having a vaccine makes you 8 times less likely to be hospitalized with COVID.
Amazingly, not what the headline was trying to get across to the anti-vax crowd.

Wish people would look at NYC's numbers, where there's now a good sample size. You are far more likely on a per capita basis to be hospitalized if you're are unvaxxed. Current figure is less than 3/100,000 vaxxed in the hospital. Unvaxxed? 32/100,000. This is even more telling because those vaxxed tend to be older and with more underlying health issues.

COVID-19: Latest Data - NYC Health

 

[NorthDallas40]

Wish people would look at NYC's numbers, where there's now a good sample size. You are far more likely on a per capita basis to be hospitalized if your are unvaxxed. Current figure is less than 3/100,000 vaxxed in the hospital. Unvaxxed? 32/100,000. This is even more telling because those vaxxed tend to be older and with more underlying health issues.

COVID-19: Latest Data - NYC Health

We have been watching NYC data since spring of 2020 when Cuomo was killing the states elderly. NY needs to sit this one out

 

[luthervol]

Again, just from this post out of 100% of covid patients that require hospitalizations 54% of them are fully vaccinated. People need to read the posts.

If 90% of the population has been vaccinated, then those numbers mean you are 8 times less likely to be hospitalized with COVID if you are vaccinated.
They are misleading you guys.....intentionally.

 

[Orangeburst]

Any man does this to my wife, and we are going to have some big problems.

His wife is a DR... yeah right bigwig

 

[evillawyer]

We have been watching NYC data since spring of 2020 when Cuomo was killing the states elderly. NY needs to sit this one out

And consistent with your edukayshunal attainment, the redneck states didn't learn s**t.

 

[NorthDallas40]

And consistent with your edukayshunal attainment, the redneck states didn't learn s**t.

We were smart enough to not put COVID patients in assisted living centers

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

If 90% of the population has been vaccinated, then those numbers mean you are 8 times less likely to be hospitalized with COVID if you are vaccinated.
They are misleading you guys.....intentionally.

LOL

 

[Matt2496]

Any man does this to my wife, and we are going to have some big problems.

What a beta male Karen

 

[Orangeslice13]

I’m O+ as well. Still have my dog tags with my blood type on them.

That’s cool

 

[Jxn Vol]

What 'numbers' did you use regarding long term effects of the 'vaccines'?

Crickets on this one.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Cdc is recommending not to check antibodies before vaccine.

CDC says there’s no Lyme disease in chattanooga … but there are more than 100 confirmed cases.
Do your own research and just take the CDC as a source that needs verification

 

[tnmarktx]

If 90% of the population has been vaccinated, then those numbers mean you are 8 times less likely to be hospitalized with COVID if you are vaccinated.
They are misleading you guys.....intentionally.

That's not what the narrative of the vaccine is portrayed. You are not supposed to get ill enough to be hospitalized when you get the vaccine. This proves that it's not the case.

 

[volfanhill]

So no one has died as a result of it?

People have died from side effects of every vaccine ever made

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Crickets on this one.

I am not belittling his decision to get stuck. I really don't care one way or the other. I just want to know what empirical data he used to come to the decision that the long term effects of the unknown therapy is worth the risk. And as I asked in another post, how does he know when those benefits are gone and he will have to get boosters.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

People have died from side effects of every vaccine ever made

OF course they have. Hunner said this is 100% effective. I would say that deaths have pretty much invalidated that claim.

 

[Orangeslice13]

You are not taking age and risk factors into consideration. Young healthy people would be better off not taking it based on the numbers.

I swear some of y’all don’t have a clue or trust how our immune system works. Y’all must have stock in the vaccine companies. This virus has made folks completely abandon basic principles of medical science.