Vaccine or not?

If 90% of the population has been vaccinated, then those numbers mean you are 8 times less likely to be hospitalized with COVID if you are vaccinated.
They are misleading you guys.....intentionally.
Your hypothesis also relies on a current 100% population infection rate. There's no way to determine that. It's probably safe to assume that the unvaccinated are more careless about the prevention of getting covid.
 
Go do your own research as to how the vaccine was created.
It began in 2002
Edit: I forgot you don’t do numbers
Legend in your own mind. Fact is you have no clue what the long term effects are.

Just like the makers of Viox, Bextra, surgical mesh, and metal on metal hips did either.
 
Go do your own research as to how the vaccine was created.
It began in 2002
Edit: I forgot you don’t do numbers
No, I have done the research and I came to my own conclusion. I fully understand how the vaccine was created. I also understand how it was tested and the success rates of that testing in animal populations. I also understand how that testing is/was being done on a human populace under the guise of emergency.

Try not to get your panties all bunched up as I was merely trying to find out what led you to your conclusion. You said numbers, and I wonder what numbers you used to evaluate long term effects that led you to the conclusion that taking an unknown therapy was worth the risk for something that is 99% survivable by those that are infected.
 
Over half the covid patients that require hospitalizations are vaccinated. This wasn't supposed to be the narrative that is being pushed. Vaccination narrative went from you won't get it to, you want get really sick. This demonstrates, that's not the case. Do you actually read the posts?
That makes absolutely no sense. Again, it’s like posting your tourist photos from Pisa to prove how strong you are.

ICU, Hospitals & Testing Data

Covid -19 hospitalizations in Ireland, over time:
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So, in the first wave after proliferation of the vaccine, with a more contagious variant, hospitalizations in Ireland peaked at around 20% of what they were in January and the 30% of the population, when you add in the <18 group, accounts for nearly half of those hospitalizations. If you look at that and think “oh yeah, this shows that the vaccine doesn’t work” then you’re completely off your damn rocker.
 
So no one has died as a result of it?
When the polio vaccine became available some vaccinated people still got sick and died or became paralyzed. Yet It has proven to be one of the most successful vaccines in history. Just because of some breakthrough cases doesn't signify it's a failure. What's wrong with you?
 
That makes absolutely no sense. Again, it’s like posting your tourist photos from Pisa to prove how strong you are.

ICU, Hospitals & Testing Data

Covid -19 hospitalizations in Ireland, over time:
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So, in the first wave after proliferation of the vaccine, with a more contagious variant, hospitalizations in Ireland peaked at around 20% of what they were in January and the 30% of the population, when you add in the <18 group, accounts for nearly half of those hospitalizations. If you look at that and think “oh yeah, this shows that the vaccine doesn’t work” then you’re completely off your damn rocker.
All of this data is based off 100% potential of infection rate. One would think people would be smart enough to realize that the best way to prevent the spread of covid is to not be around an infected person. The point of the post was to demonstrate that there is a number of people, more than are unvaccinated that are sick enough to be hospitalized. This was not supposed to be possible. That is the narrative that is being pushed in order for mandating a vaccine as a requirement of employment.
 
When the polio vaccine became available some vaccinated people still got sick and died. It has proven to be one of the most successful vaccines in history. Just because of some breakthrough cases doesn't signify failure. What's wrong with you?
Polio actually was harmful to children. Hence the need to roll it out and mandate it.

Covid is exactly the reverse. It hammers the old folks and barely affects children.
 
No, I have done the research and I came to my own conclusion. I fully understand how the vaccine was created. I also understand how it was tested and the success rates of that testing in animal populations. I also understand how that testing is/was being done on a human populace under the guise of emergency.

Try not to get your panties all bunched up as I was merely trying to find out what led you to your conclusion. You said numbers, and I wonder what numbers you used to evaluate long term effects that led you to the conclusion that taking an unknown therapy was worth the risk for something that is 99% survivable by those that are infected.
You should know me well enough to know I don’t get bunched.
Especially with you. We got history.
And there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that the vaccine base has little to no long term effects.
 
When the polio vaccine became available some vaccinated people still got sick and died or became paralyzed. Yet It has proven to be one of the most successful vaccines in history. Just because of some breakthrough cases doesn't signify it's a failure. What's wrong with you?
The jury is out as to whether or not it is successful in the long term Chief. You or your god Fauci do not know that as of yet.
 
You should know me well enough to know I don’t get bunched.
Especially with you. We got history.
And there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that the vaccine base has little to no long term effects.
It is all supposition. No empirical data whatsoever. That's enough for me to question it. YMMV

I had the Chinese Flu. I survived. I don't need any help anymore.

Now what about my question regarding boosters and antibodies?
 
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It is all supposition. No empirical data whatsoever. That's enough for me to question it. YMMV
There are actual complete studies. It was tabled in 17 because the belief there wasn’t a need. So they held it till another Covid sprung up. They’ve been on this for 20 years. They didn’t pull it from their ass in 12 months
 
CDC says there’s no Lyme disease in chattanooga … but there are more than 100 confirmed cases.
Do your own research and just take the CDC as a source that needs verification
Maybe I should have put that in blue. I have very little faith in the cdc. Every year my blood is drawn to see what antibodies I have. I’m good. Now they are advising get the vaccine but don’t check your antibodies first for covid. It’s counterintuitive to everything we know.
 
There are actual complete studies. It was tabled in 17 because the belief there wasn’t a need. So they held it till another Covid sprung up. They’ve been on this for 20 years. They didn’t pull it from their ass in 12 months
No successful animal studies. None.
 
Maybe I should have put that in blue. I have very little faith in the cdc. Every year my blood is drawn to see what antibodies I have. I’m good. Now they are advising get the vaccine but don’t check your antibodies first for covid. It’s counterintuitive to everything we know.
Extremely underrated post. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
Damn straight that's where we are. Proud of it. And that's one of the reasons NYC is not a COVID s**thole like TN.

And this was not done overnight. There was plenty of advance notice of the mandate and it does not apply to outdoor dining, which is available at nearly every restaurant because NYC passed a law allowing restaurants to create outdoor dining spaces.

 

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