Vaccine or not?

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mad4vols said:
Nope, maybe try reading before commenting
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I did read it...the people who took the survey gave thier opinions with a politcial slant...and the people who provided the survey are now blaming those people and well as questioning thier PHD.....and itnhad not yet been peer reviewed...but thier own words they were surprised the 75+ and the longer educated were extremely hesitant...so yes they are questioning thier own survey cuz it didnt show what they wanted
 
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utvols88 said:
Need some prayers. Friend of mine (25 years old) had covid in 2020, got her second dose of vaccine (Pfizer I think) and 3 days later had a stroke. All tests have come back clean. She didn't have a pulse when emt arrived, resuscitated on the way there but looks to have severe brain damage. Looking like vegetative state at best as she's been in a coma since, 8 days ago. Drs aren't sure what happened but think it was a reaction to the vax. Not looking to argue. Just need prayers. Poor thing was scheduled to get married in two weeks.
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Prayers
 
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Boris Johnson tells Brazil's anti-vaxxer President Jair Bolsonaro to get some AstraZeneca in him – and gets a finger-wagging for his troubles

Boris Johnson urged Brazil's anti-vaxxer President Jair Bolsonaro to get the AstraZeneca vaccine as he hailed its success in the fight against the coronavirus pandemic.

During a meeting in New York on Monday, the Prime Minister told the Brazilian leader, who claims he has not been inoculated, that AstraZeneca was a 'great vaccine' and he had received two doses himself.

But Mr Bolsonaro was quick to respond to the Prime Minister's comments by wagging his finger and replying 'not yet'.

Boris Johnson tells Brazil's President Jair Bolsonaro to get some AstraZeneca in him | Daily Mail Online
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I did read it...the people who took the survey gave thier opinions with a politcial slant...and the people who provided the survey are now blaming those people and well as questioning thier PHD.....and itnhad not yet been peer reviewed...but thier own words they were surprised the 75+ and the longer educated were extremely hesitant...so yes they are questioning thier own survey cuz it didnt show what they wanted
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The article that I posted aren’t the ones that did the survey, not sure where you came up with that
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I did read it...the people who took the survey gave thier opinions with a politcial slant...and the people who provided the survey are now blaming those people and well as questioning thier PHD.....and itnhad not yet been peer reviewed...but thier own words they were surprised the 75+ and the longer educated were extremely hesitant...so yes they are questioning thier own survey cuz it didnt show what they wanted
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It's not surprising. Most surveys that take from social media end up being compromised in one way or another unless they're targeted at a specific population. Like VAERS, there's no real way to follow up on what has been submitted to make sure that the respondent hasn't lied through their teeth for the sheer fun of it.
 
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AshG said:
It's not surprising. Most surveys that take from social media end up being compromised in one way or another unless they're targeted at a specific population. Like VAERS, there's no real way to follow up on what has been submitted to make sure that the respondent hasn't lied through their teeth for the sheer fun of it.
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Thing Vaers that bothers me is that is has been the goto since it was created...had been the goto for FDA and CDC to pull vaxs...that is until recently..it was the standard..and now questioned relentlessly
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Thing Vaers that bothers me is that is has been the goto since it was created...had been the goto for FDA and CDC to pull vaxs...that is until recently..it was the standard..and now questioned relentlessly
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When I can enter that the Pfizer vaccine caused my nose to grow two more inches long and there no recourse, there's an issue with the system
 
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AshG said:
When I can enter that the Pfizer vaccine caused my nose to grow two more inches long and there no recourse, there's an issue with the system
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So your response to a concern of a system that has been widely used and accepted and respected by tje FDA and CDC to recall vaccines is to make a a dumb retort....typical academia..when you can't make 1+1 =3 make dumb remarks.....well played....
 
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whodeycin85 said:
So your response to a concern of a system that has been widely used and accepted and respected by tje FDA and CDC to recall vaccines is to make a a dumb retort....typical academia..when you can't make 1+1 =3 make dumb remarks.....well played....
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Is English your first language? This is a serious question based on your syntax usage and comprehension issues.
 
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AshG said:
Is English your first language? This is a serious question based on your syntax usage and comprehension issues.
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Again you have nothing useful to say...pathetic....can't respond with anything to counter my questions or reasoning so ill attack the grammer....childish and pathetic for a teacher...
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Again you have nothing useful to say...pathetic....can't respond with anything to counter my questions or reasoning so ill attack the grammer....childish and pathetic for a teacher...
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I'm being serious. I am trying to do a better job of interfacing with you. You do not seem to understand what some posters are saying so I was legitimately curious as to whether or not there is a language barrier.

Forgive me for trying to address things in a manner that maintains your dignity.
 
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AshG said:
I'm being serious. I am trying to do a better job of interfacing with you. You do not seem to understand what some posters are saying so I was legitimately curious as to whether or not there is a language barrier.

Forgive me for trying to address things in a manner that maintains your dignity.
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My dignity is fine...there was nothing about the VAERS system that has been said on here that is difficult to understand..most people that I argue with have trouble following basic logic....for 30 years VAERS has been the standard in helping recall faulty vaccines...now for the highly politicized covid vaccines, VAERS is suddenly deem unreliable. WHY when is was fine for 30 years?
 
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ENGRVOL said:
Hope there is a med like ivermectin that is cheap and is found to help against covid. However there is no pharmacological basis for ivermectin to work against covid or at least treat humans as an antiviral.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13102818.2020.1775118
Development of a Minimal Physiologically-Based Pharmacokinetic Model to Simulate Lung Exposure in Humans Following Oral Administration of Ivermectin for COVID-19 Drug Repurposing - ScienceDirect
https://ascpt.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cpt.1889

Studies cited by ivermectin advocates about antiviral effect in-vitro or in the lab fail to mention that it requires concentrations significantly higher in the human body than what is possible for standard ivermectin dosing. Reports of mass administration of ivermectin in places like India, Mexico, and Peru fail to mention how many doses were administered at what time and to how many. None of those articles go into that detail. Further there are many confounding variables going on simultaneously not taken into account.

We now have several randomized controlled double blinded trials including the recent Together Trial that showed no benefit with ivermectin and what seems to be monthly retractions of pro-ivermectin studies around the world due to fraud.
Don’t like how the fda further polarized this issue but wish these advocates for ivermectin at least admit that evidence that the drug works is at best weak and observational.
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India says hello.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
My dignity is fine...there was nothing about the VAERS system that has been said on here that is difficult to understand..most people that I argue with have trouble following basic logic....for 30 years VAERS has been the standard in helping recall faulty vaccines...now for the highly politicized covid vaccines, VAERS is suddenly deem unreliable. WHY when is was fine for 30 years?
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The public having access to VAERS during a highly polarized time is what creates the issue with validity. It is being flooded with fraudulent data from multiple vectors and with multiple purposes.

If VAERS is to become a useful tool again, it needs to be limited to input only by authorized, credentialed medical personnel with no public facing interface.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
And it’s just as likely that they recover in 3-5 days without it too. If we believe the percentages
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The same could be said about some of these people that were vaccinated, yet they claim "Oh, but it would have been worse had I not gotten the jab.."

None of the two dozen I know that took Ivermectin had been vaccinated.
 
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