Vaccine or not?

[NurseGoodVol]

Should she ground them? She seems to think there's a problem.

She was fairly clear there’s a problem big enough to ground vaccined pilots.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Your emojis don't really answer my question. Tell my why my liberal-science-following is different. I'm sure you are smart enough to spell it out.

Ok. In your opinion, is there any difference between the COVID shot (it’s not a vaccine) and our childhood vaccines?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

The branch covidian cult continues to show how big of a joke they are

 

[volfanhill]

Ok. In your opinion, is there any difference Ethernet the COVID shot (it’s not a vaccine) and our childhood vaccines?

It's a vaccine. Stop. The flu shot isn't as effective and it's actually a vaccine not a shot. Do better.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

It's a vaccine. Stop. The flu shot isn't as effective and it's actually a vaccine not a shot. Do better.

Neither is a vaccine. Well I guess since the CDC has changed the definition of a vaccine multiple times, it would be. But if you are a person who uses a little bit of critical thinking and logic, you would realize they aren’t true vaccines. But hey, you do you.

 

[C-south]

It's a vaccine. Stop. The flu shot isn't as effective and it's actually a vaccine not a shot. Do better.

And that’s why the vast majority doesn’t bother with it.

 

[DynaLo]

It’s never going to stop.

And that’s one of the reasons I’m not getting on that clown show carnival ride.

 

[tntar heel]

That is so that all new cases are tracked in the unvaxxed column.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Should she ground them? She seems to think there's a problem.

It's a little late to be asking that kind of question, doncha think? I think it's funny actually. Goes right to the heart of the stupidity behind all this ChinaFlu panic. I would say that they probably can't though because what would happens to the commercial airlines? (United made ALL of it's pilots get 'vaccinated') So now the Biden government has placed it's incompetent ass squarely between a huge rock and a bigger hard place.

But it is all about safety, amiright?

And just in case you can't tell, I am laughing my ass off at this whole thing at this point.

Reminds me of this oldie but goodie:

 

[Orangeslice13]

Put this in the other thread by mistake.
This article presents a lot of information and opinions from all sides and is worth reading.


Vaccinating people who have had covid-19: why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US?

 

[kiddiedoc]

Put this in the other thread by mistake.
This article presents a lot of information and opinions from all sides and is worth reading.


Vaccinating people who have had covid-19: why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US?

Here is the meat, for many people:

“If natural immunity is strongly protective, as the evidence to date suggests it is, then vaccinating people who have had covid-19 would seem to offer nothing or very little to benefit, logically leaving only harms—both the harms we already know about as well as those still unknown,” says Christine Stabell Benn, vaccinologist and professor in global health at the University of Southern Denmark. The CDC has acknowledged the small but serious risks of heart inflammation and blood clots after vaccination, especially in younger people. The real risk in vaccinating people who have had covid-19 “is of doing more harm than good,” she says.

Thank you for sharing. Good article.

 

[NashVol11]

Those that used Floyd’s death for political purposes to push an agenda were terrible

How about those saying they were glad he was killed? I don’t remember anyone lecturing them

 

[Orangeslice13]

How about those saying they were glad he was killed? I don’t remember anyone lecturing them

Call them out.
Who was it?
I don’t remember anyone saying they were glad George Floyd was killed. But if they did then that’s horrible and I’d join you in condemning them.

 

[GoDucks349]

Got my third shot yesterday. Woke up speaking Chinese, third leg grew an inch and have a strange urge to sell my guns.

Seriously, get the vaccine, not just for yourself, but for friends, family and all those you come in contact with.

 

[Sea Ray]

Here is the meat, for many people:



Thank you for sharing. Good article.

"If" can mean anything or nothing at all. The article also states:

In June, Peter Marks, director of the Food and Drug Administration’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, which regulates vaccines, went a step further and stated: “We do know that the immunity after vaccination is better than the immunity after natural infection.” In an email, an FDA spokesperson said Marks’s comment was based on a laboratory study of the binding breadth of Moderna vaccine induced antibodies.22 The research did not measure any clinical outcomes. Marks added, referring to antibodies, that “generally the immunity after natural infection tends to wane after about 90 days.”23

“It appears from the literature that natural infection provides immunity, but that immunity is seemingly not as strong and may not be as long lasting as that provided by the vaccine,” Alfred Sommer, dean emeritus of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health tells The BMJ.

So what is it? Is it beneficial to get the jab after natural immunity or not? This article makes no attempt to sort that question out thus we're right back to where we started

 

[Sea Ray]

Got my third shot yesterday. Woke up speaking Chinese, third leg grew an inch and have a strange urge to sell my guns.

Seriously, get the vaccine, not just for yourself, but for friends, family and all those you come in contact with.

So what are they telling you about the protection you're buying by getting a 3rd shot? 6 mos? A year?

 

[Vollifer1949]

What good are national guard troops if I'm admitted for a heart attack?

You'd have to ask Kathy.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Got my third shot yesterday. Woke up speaking Chinese, third leg grew an inch and have a strange urge to sell my guns.

Seriously, get the vaccine, not just for yourself, but for friends, family and all those you come in contact with.

Your Chinese grammar is a pile of chit. Good morning BTW.

 

[evillawyer]

Oh great. The antivax Trumpers are just gonna get dumber post COVID.

Milder COVID-19 infection could still leave brain with lasting impact: UK study

 

[C-south]

Got my third shot yesterday. Woke up speaking Chinese, third leg grew an inch and have a strange urge to sell my guns.

Seriously, get the vaccine, not just for yourself, but for friends, family and all those you come in contact with.

You know you can still contract and/or transmit the virus don’t you? Anyway, I don’t need it, I’ll pass.

 

[GoDucks349]

So what are they telling you about the protection you're buying by getting a 3rd shot? 6 mos? A year?

Why wouldn't you get a third shot if it provides additional protection? As far as I'm concerned it's irresponsible to not do everything you can to protect yourself and those around you by getting the highest possible level of protection during this pandemic.

From the CDC

Why is a third shot of a COVID-19 vaccine needed?
The CDC recommends a third dose of the two-shot vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) for people with certain health conditions to help further protect them from getting severely ill or dying due to COVID-19. Some people have conditions or take specific medication doses that can cause them to have a decreased immune system. Data suggest that two doses of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine may not have a strong enough response in these individuals, and that they may benefit from a third dose.

 

[C-south]

Oh great. The antivax Trumpers are just gonna get dumber post COVID.

Milder COVID-19 infection could still leave brain with lasting impact: UK study

So you had Covid decades ago and have been feeling the effects since.

 

[whodeycin85]

Old saying

Unless your feeding me, financing me, or ***king me, my life is not your buisness, just as yours isn't mine.

 

[Sea Ray]

Why wouldn't you get a third shot if it provides additional protection? As far as I'm concerned it's irresponsible to not do everything you can to protect yourself and those around you by getting the highest possible level of protection during this pandemic.

From the CDC

Why is a third shot of a COVID-19 vaccine needed?
The CDC recommends a third dose of the two-shot vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) for people with certain health conditions to help further protect them from getting severely ill or dying due to COVID-19. Some people have conditions or take specific medication doses that can cause them to have a decreased immune system. Data suggest that two doses of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine may not have a strong enough response in these individuals, and that they may benefit from a third dose.

I wanna know a little more than "it'll provide additional protection".

 

[evillawyer]

Why wouldn't you get a third shot if it provides additional protection? As far as I'm concerned it's irresponsible to not do everything you can to protect yourself and those around you by getting the highest possible level of protection during this pandemic.

From the CDC

Why is a third shot of a COVID-19 vaccine needed?
The CDC recommends a third dose of the two-shot vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) for people with certain health conditions to help further protect them from getting severely ill or dying due to COVID-19. Some people have conditions or take specific medication doses that can cause them to have a decreased immune system. Data suggest that two doses of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine may not have a strong enough response in these individuals, and that they may benefit from a third dose.

Get out of here with your "common good" crap, commie. This is 'Murica. All that matters is freedumb and what's good "fur me!"