Vaccine or not?

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NurseGoodVol said:
She was fairly clear there’s a problem big enough to ground vaccined pilots.
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That's what I was thinking. I've always understood it was totally the flight surgeons call as to whether a pilot or aviator was fit to fly. Since she believes the problem is serious enough to seek whistle blower status it seems she should be grounding these men and women until they are physically evaluated. I was hoping to get SpaceCoast's opinion since he's a pilot but just wanted to bash Biden.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
The CDC recommends a third dose of the two-shot vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) for people with certain health conditions to help further protect them from getting severely ill or dying due to COVID-19.
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Do you have a condition that puts you at risk? Are you assuming that the posters you are arguing with do? Or, are you selfishly using up vaccine supply that could be used in underimmunized areas that are more likely to give rise to new variants?
 
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Hunerwadel said:
That's what I was thinking. I've always understood it was totally the flight surgeons call as to whether a pilot or aviator was fit to fly. Since she believes the problem is serious enough to seek whistle blower status it seems she should be grounding these men and women until they are physically evaluated. I was hoping to get SpaceCoast's opinion since he's a pilot but just wanted to bash Biden.
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While she can technically ground anyone in her brigade as a flight surgeon from my experience getting flight physical at fort rucker many years ago flight physicals as well as upslips and downslips for any medical issue do not come from the brigade surgeon but rather from the aeromedical center which is separate. Her job mainly is to advise the CO on health related issues and ensure medical readiness. If she did ground all aviators with the 1st aviation then you are talking about grounding essentially all army training pilots which would not be good.
 
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C-south said:
You know you can still contract and/or transmit the virus don’t you? Anyway, I don’t need it, I’ll pass.
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Yes, I'm aware that I can still contract and/or transmit the virus. That's common knowledge. Just as the fact that it's common knowledge that being vaccinated provides a very significant level of protection from contracting the virtues.

When I see a response that says "I" don't need it, that is just selfish, dangerous and showing a lack of desire to protect yourself and those you come in contact with.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Do you have a condition that puts you at risk? Are you assuming that the posters you are arguing with do? Or, are you selfishly using up vaccine supply that could be used in underimmunized areas that are more likely to give rise to new variants?
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I'm not arguing with anyone. Yes I do have a condition that puts me at risk. Same can be said for my family members, they are at risk as well. Also, it's apparent that the current supply in this country is readily available.
 
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My sister is going to be on a premium TV show as one of the main characters and it's her big break. She is triple vaxed and popped positive 3 days before the test shoot. She was so devastated that I was worried about her well-being. She tested negative today. They will give her a rapid test tomorrow. [crosses fingers]
 
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Sea Ray said:
"If" can mean anything or nothing at all. The article also states:



So what is it? Is it beneficial to get the jab after natural immunity or not? This article makes no attempt to sort that question out thus we're right back to where we started
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IMO, it’s the same as with every other person’s decision to vaccinate or not.

There is some evidence of a marginal reduction of breakthrough infection if you get vaccinated.
There is some evidence of a risk of heart inflammation and blood clots.

Each of these values is variable, depending on individual factors. Whether the marginal reduction in risk from covid and/or the risk of spreading covid is enough to outweigh the risk of side effects probably comes down to a judgment call based on your own risk tolerance threshold.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
Yes, I'm aware that I can still contract and/or transmit the virus. That's common knowledge. Just as the fact that it's common knowledge that being vaccinated provides a very significant level of protection from contracting the virtues.

When I see a response that says "I" don't need it, that is just selfish, dangerous and showing a lack of desire to protect yourself and those you come in contact with.
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Why does significant level of protection just mean "vaxxed".

With the vast majority of cases not even resulting in significant symptoms, worth calling out sick preCovid, it seems like we already have significant protection.

I have harped and will continue to harp, the only metric the government cares about is compliance.

Look at the committee voting against the third shot and then being over ruled with no additional science brought forth.
 
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I love the recent quotes from Fauci.

Three doses of Covid-19 vaccine are likely needed for full protection, Fauci says - CNN

"There was good reason to believe that a third dose "will actually be durable, and if it is durable, then you're going to have very likely a three-dose regimen being the routine regimen,""

Actually be durable. Sounds like they didnt do enough studies on their previous regimen to make sure it was actually durable. Why are we thinking that this time it will actually stay?

And here comes the third dose caveat. Going to talk to my boss about this.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
Yes, I'm aware that I can still contract and/or transmit the virus. That's common knowledge. Just as the fact that it's common knowledge that being vaccinated provides a very significant level of protection from contracting the virtues.

When I see a response that says "I" don't need it, that is just selfish, dangerous and showing a lack of desire to protect yourself and those you come in contact with.
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I’ve had Covid so I’ll take my chances banking on natural immunity.
 
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LouderVol said:
I love the recent quotes from Fauci.

Three doses of Covid-19 vaccine are likely needed for full protection, Fauci says - CNN

"There was good reason to believe that a third dose "will actually be durable, and if it is durable, then you're going to have very likely a three-dose regimen being the routine regimen,""

Actually be durable. Sounds like they didnt do enough studies on their previous regimen to make sure it was actually durable. Why are we thinking that this time it will actually stay?

And here comes the third dose caveat. Going to talk to my boss about this.
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There are studies in review right now that say natural immunity goes away just like the vaccine protection.
It seems that nothing is permanent with Covid
 
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C-south said:
I’ve had Covid so I’ll take my chances banking on natural immunity.
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It will actually suck to be the people who already had Covid as the newer studies say you protection is fading and if that wasn’t good enough news the people who had Covid already are at a much higher risk of side effects from the vaccine.

If I were you I would not take the vaccine either for a least a year maybe 2 after having Covid. By then we’re likely at endemic anyway

Edit: btw. All these studies are contained and linked in the article I posted earlier if anyone wants to look it up
 
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LouderVol said:
He is far more likely to kill a family member of yours in a car wreck. Easily preventable, already has the government approved paperwork, plenty of built in safety factors, yes still far more dangerous to fellow man.
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Covid Deaths - 15,000

Novel Coronavirus


3 years of fatality accidents in TN - Less than 3000

Tennessee Traffic Fatalities


Get them facts straight before talking.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
There are studies in review right now that say natural immunity goes away just like the vaccine protection.
It seems that nothing is permanent with Covid
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I am wondering how long people are going to keep eating it up, and allow it to keep justifying government powers.

It took 9 months to roll out the vaccine. Dec 2020
About 5 months to get it wide spread. May/June 2021.
About 4 months for the government mandates to come out, August/Septmember 2021.
Then less than a month for the push on 3 to start.


Do people keep letting the CDC dictate their lives with a fifth or sixth shot? After they were convinced that two was the best number.

How many times do they get to change the narrative before people make their own decisions on what is safe enough for them.
 
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aheady13 said:
Covid Deaths - 15,000

Novel Coronavirus


3 years of fatality accidents in TN - Less than 3000

Tennessee Traffic Fatalities


Get them facts straight before talking.
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What Are the Odds of Dying in a Car Crash in Las Vegas?

Getting fully vaccinated massively reduces your chance of dying from COVID-19, a new real-world study suggests

.9% car
.8% covid

Maybe I shouldnt have assumed your family is vaxxed and/or under the age of 65. Because that would make Covid more dangerous than car accidents.
 
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LouderVol said:
I am wondering how long people are going to keep eating it up, and allow it to keep justifying government powers.

It took 9 months to roll out the vaccine. Dec 2020
About 5 months to get it wide spread. May/June 2021.
About 4 months for the government mandates to come out, August/Septmember 2021.
Then less than a month for the push on 3 to start.


Do people keep letting the CDC dictate their lives with a fifth or sixth shot? After they were convinced that two was the best number.

How many times do they get to change the narrative before people make their own decisions on what is safe enough for them.
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lol
I’m not sure where any of that comes from in relation to what I posted.
I don’t give a **** about the CDC or any of the political mambo-jumbo in your posts.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
lol
I’m not sure where any of that comes from in relation to what I posted.
I don’t give a **** about the CDC or any of the political mambo-jumbo in your posts.
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You said nothing was permanent. I was pointing out the timelines and how that impermanence has effected policy and overall acceptance.
 
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