Vaccine or not?

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mad4vols said:
Typical antivax comment….
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Stop Gaslighting, it’s not working.

The truth is….
More Americans have chosen to die from COVID under Joe Biden’s watch in 2021 than in President Trump’s America in 2020 when there was no choice.
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Chose to die of Covid, how does that work? I think for most deaths across time have been involuntary.

On the plus side, for you, you dont have to count the voluntary deaths, suicides, in your numbers.
 
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VolinWayne said:
These people are simply evil. There absolutely is no other word to describe these people. If this woman dies because of the fact that she was taken off of the waiting list these people will will one day stand before God and be judged as the murderers that they are. It's that simple.

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — An El Paso County woman says she won’t be able to get a kidney transplant through UCHealth because she’s not vaccinated against COVID-19.

Colorado Springs womans name inactive on UCHealth kidney transplant list over vaccination status - The Denver Channel – TodayHeadline

Leilani Lutali learned of this after receiving a letter, dated Sept. 28, from the UCHealth Transplant Center at its Anschutz Medical Campus:




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“I feel coerced. I feel like my life is being held in their hands in exchange for a shot, and the attitude is just take the shot,” Lutali told Denver7’s sister station KOAA Tuesday.

The letter has gotten a lot of attention, including from State Rep. Tim Geitner, a Republican serving El Paso County.

“The understanding is basically… conform to this demand. Take this COVID vaccine or otherwise you will be denied a life-saving procedure,” he said Tuesday.
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Real smart of this lady to post the name and contact information of the transplant coordinator who had no say in whether she was a transplant candidate or not. I’m sure transplant centers across America will be thrilled to accept her now that her actions have threatened the life of this coordinator.
 
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mad4vols said:
Knoxville CNA prepared for ‘any outcome’ after job hints at vaccine requirement | WATE 6 On Your Side

“Starker says because of her religious beliefs she has no plans of getting the vaccine.” — “I believe in Jesus, my body my temple. He’s my healer.”

So no Aspirin for headaches? No cancer treatment? No stitches? — Did God not create medicine & docs too?
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Honestly, in a twisted sort of way, I agree with you. I think the people using religious exemptions are pretty lame. Hell, I bet most of these people that are trying to use religious exemptions don't even practice 10% of scripture any other time...

To me, the only argument that makes any sense is personal choice. Period. I don't need to give any explanations as to why I don't want it. "I don't want to" should be good enough.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Honestly, in a twisted sort of way, I agree with you. I think the people using religious exemptions are pretty lame. Hell, I bet most of these people that are trying to use religious exemptions don't even practice 10% of scripture any other time...

To me, the only argument that makes any sense is personal choice. Period. I don't need to give any explanations as to why I don't want it. "I don't want to" should be good enough.
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They only give you 2 choices, medical or religious exemption.
 
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They're at the "just throwing all the garbage at the wall to see what sticks" level of insanity now.

NH State Rep. Ken Weyler Leaves Panel Leadership Over False COVID Claims – CBS Boston

NH state GOP Rep. Ken Weyler steps down as House Finance chair after claiming that COVID vaccines were "examined under a microscope, which revealed a tentacled creature in each vial that 'moves around, lifts itself up, and even seems to be self aware.'"
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I guess I'm saying in an ideal world, "I don't want to" should be good enough. Obviously, in the dystopia we live in now, I don't even think religious reasons would work and I'm sure the list of medical exemptions is pretty short.
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Your right and I agree. They are pigeonholing people into making choices while not really having a choice. If I can prove I have antibodies to covid it should be enough of a medical exemption. That’s not one of the choices according to the cdc.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I guess I'm saying in an ideal world, "I don't want to" should be good enough. Obviously, in the dystopia we live in now, I don't even think religious reasons would work and I'm sure the list of medical exemptions is pretty short.
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It's not made with porcine products, so Jews and Muslims aren't eligible. It's not made with beef products, so Hindu aren't eligible. The aborted fetus the cell lines come from is so far in the past the Vatican has ruled it not a violation of conscience when used in a vaccine.

I believe Christian Scientists might be eligible for a waiver, but I'm not sure. There's still that pesky problem with Romans 13:1-2.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I guess I'm saying in an ideal world, "I don't want to" should be good enough. Obviously, in the dystopia we live in now, I don't even think religious reasons would work and I'm sure the list of medical exemptions is pretty short.
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Yep. Agreed.
 
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mad4vols said:
COVID-19 live updates: More Americans died of COVID this year than all of 2020

After the vaccine, those deaths were by choice when they refused to get one.

And of those who died how many were unvaccinated?!
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Because the U.S. has made getting the vaccine political… look at yourselves in the mirror vs the rest of the world. Wakey wakey…
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How many died within the two week window before they’re considered vaccinated?

You are classified as unvaxxed until 2 weeks after your second shot and when boosters go mainstream, all y’all will be unvaxxed until after shot #3.
 
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AshG said:
It's not made with porcine products, so Jews and Muslims aren't eligible. It's not made with beef products, so Hindu aren't eligible. The aborted fetus the cell lines come from is so far in the past the Vatican has ruled it not a violation of conscience when used in a vaccine.

I believe Christian Scientists might be eligible for a waiver, but I'm not sure. There's still that pesky problem with Romans 13:1-2.
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I’m not sure if religious exemptions have to be based on organized religions.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Honestly, in a twisted sort of way, I agree with you. I think the people using religious exemptions are pretty lame. Hell, I bet most of these people that are trying to use religious exemptions don't even practice 10% of scripture any other time...

To me, the only argument that makes any sense is personal choice. Period. I don't need to give any explanations as to why I don't want it. "I don't want to" should be good enough.
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There are other religions besides those that use the Bible that would qualify for religious exemptions. Christianity isn’t all there is on this planet.
 
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mad4vols said:
They're at the "just throwing all the garbage at the wall to see what sticks" level of insanity now.

NH State Rep. Ken Weyler Leaves Panel Leadership Over False COVID Claims – CBS Boston

NH state GOP Rep. Ken Weyler steps down as House Finance chair after claiming that COVID vaccines were "examined under a microscope, which revealed a tentacled creature in each vial that 'moves around, lifts itself up, and even seems to be self aware.'"
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I noticed that as well. Here’s a pic.
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AshG said:
It's not made with porcine products, so Jews and Muslims aren't eligible. It's not made with beef products, so Hindu aren't eligible. The aborted fetus the cell lines come from is so far in the past the Vatican has ruled it not a violation of conscience when used in a vaccine.

I believe Christian Scientists might be eligible for a waiver, but I'm not sure. There's still that pesky problem with Romans 13:1-2.
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Wiccans.
The adverse side effects, deaths and personal harm caused by the shots goes against the core ethical tenet and key moral system of the Wiccan Rede, “And ye harm none, do as ye will”. Participating in the Covid shots that have caused harm to others and quite possibly yourself violates the Rede. 😉
 
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DynaLo said:
Wiccans.
The adverse side effects, deaths and personal harm caused by the shots goes against the core ethical tenet and key moral system of the Wiccan Rede, “And ye harm none, do as ye will”. Participating in the Covid shots that have caused harm to others and quite possibly yourself violates the Rede. 😉
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Thank you! I'll add that to my list
 
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AshG said:
The aborted fetus the cell lines come from is so far in the past the Vatican has ruled it not a violation of conscience when used in a vaccine.
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FYI: since there is no actual virus used in the mRNA vaccines, there are no cell lines involved. The genetic sequences are produced and amplified in a lab, not cultured.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Crazy people gonna crazy.

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I bet if they check his internet activity, he will have been encouraged to take some form of action (but not murder) by others and told what a hero and patriot he would be. Or his history will show large amounts of inflammatory media through Rumble or Telegram and the like.
 
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