Vaccine or not?

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VolStrom said:
Don't autopilots already do 90%+ of the flying anyway? Most airplane crashes are due to pilot error if I'm not mistaken.:)
Trucks are even easier, they just have 2 dimensions to keep track of.
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What are you going to do without people working in the traffic control towers? We often have unreported near collisions with them working. How do you think that's going to work out without them?
 
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Vol423 said:
What are you going to do without people working in the traffic control towers? We often have unreported near collisions with them working. How do you think that's going to work out without them?
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Who said anything about taking all the people out of the movement of airliners? Might even need to keep an engineer in the cockpit just for safety reasons but it wouldn't take much to get rid of the pilots.

The question is, how many people would still fly without a pilot sitting up front?
 
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hog88 said:
Who said anything about taking all the people out of the movement of airliners? Might even need to keep an engineer in the cockpit just for safety reasons but it wouldn't take much to get rid of the pilots.

The question is, how many people would still fly without a pilot sitting up front?
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Why don't you ask Boeing how things go when you take the pilots out of the equation (and they didn't even remove the pilots, they just had the computers override the pilots)? You'll quickly discover the answer to your last question.
 
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Vol423 said:
Why don't you ask Boeing how things go when you take the pilots out of the equation (and they didn't even remove the pilots, they just had the computers override the pilots)? You'll quickly discover the answer to your last question.
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Seems like we can fly Predators, Reapers, Stingrays and Global Hawks all around the world pretty safely.
 
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hog88 said:
It would be easier to do with airliners.
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That’s what I think as well. AI in cars will have to be programmed with all kinds of evasive maneuvering decision making because of how many idiots are out there on the roads. Not nearly as many idiots in the skies since the training standards to be a pilot are much higher than that of driving a car.
 
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Weezy said:
Look another article that uses the CDC article to make a bogus claim of vaccination being better than natural immunity for reinfection. See how this works? CDC puts out propoganda, media disseminates propoganda over and over. Then people reference multiple media articles and we've now got 98% consensus. Now if you disagree, you are labeled an anti-vaxxer not fit for employment.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/23/sho...you-had-covid-natural-immunity-explained.html
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Assuming you are one of the millions of people who got sick from the Delta variant, how can this statement possibly be true:

“But that natural immunity is unlikely to protect you against delta.”

Any answers for me? How can the CDC write this crap? It makes no scientific sense
 
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Sea Ray said:
Assuming you are one of the millions of people who got sick from the Delta variant, how can this statement possibly be true:

“But that natural immunity is unlikely to protect you against delta.”

Any answers for me? How can the CDC write this crap? It makes no scientific sense
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They dont care about the science, they care about compliance.
 
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A detailed description of how you die from COVID in the ICU

Good morning.

I squeeze your hand.

“It’s Friday at 9 o’clock in the morning.” I look out the window. “Gloomy day. It rained last night.”

You say nothing, because you’re chemically paralyzed and deeply sedated. All the drugs in the world to keep you from trying to breathe. My machine does it much better than you ever will.

I look over the fingers on your left hand. They’re falling off. You’re so sick that I was forced to choose your brain and your bowels to get blood instead of your fingers and toes.

Later that day, I take a long camera and put it down the tube breathing for you. I need to get some of the mucous in your lungs out. I quietly apologize for moving around your tube. It’s in your neck now, a surgically created hole, because the tube in your mouth caused your tongue to bleed. Your heart rate on the monitor shoots up. You’re paralyzed, but this is hurting you. I can tell by your heart rate. I ask your nurse for more medications to drip through your IVs. Please go back to sleep.

I watch your nurse troubleshoot your new kidneys. Except it’s a machine, your kidneys, because they stopped working from the weeks of toxins I gave you to try to keep you alive.

I’m not sure, but you probably don’t know who you are anymore. Your brain is so confused by the forced paralysis, the forced sleep, the inability to think, that you’ve become lost. Who are you?

Your family wants you to live, as every loved one wants for their person, so every day I watch your body die a little more. Every day I add a new medication to stave off the inevitable. A new side effect. You haven’t had a bowel movement in weeks. Your body is starving.

Eventually, your immune system and your body can’t fight off the bacteria living in your own body, your own skin, the normal things in the air. The bacteria take hold. They start using your blood to grow. They fill up your lungs with their damage. I add more medications.

I watch your last weeks alive. I watch your organs fail. I watch your fingers fall off. I watch your skin stop being able to protect your muscles and fat and just wear away in places. I watch your last few weeks alive, not knowing who you are, forcefully keeping you asleep. I hope you don’t feel this.

In 25 days, I will tell your family that despite every possible forceful thing I can do to keep you alive, your last little bit is now dying too. It might be your heart, starved for oxygen and trying so hard to keep up that it finally couldn’t squeeze any more. It might be your brain, where weeks of dying finally gave you a stroke.

If they’re kind, your family will tell me to keep you asleep and let you die. If they don’t believe me, I will spend my last moments with you watching someone crack every rib in your chest. A demand to your broken body that I can no longer demand. Stay alive.

I am angry for you. I am angry someone lied to you. I am angry that you were taken advantage of, for reasons I will never understand.

If you have not been vaccinated against COVID-19, this is how you die from it.

Please reconsider. You are wrong. Please give the small part of you that whispers, maybe I have been lied to, give it a chance.

Do not die like this.

-a tired ICU fellow.
 
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mad4vols said:
A detailed description of how you die from COVID in the ICU

Good morning.

I squeeze your hand.

“It’s Friday at 9 o’clock in the morning.” I look out the window. “Gloomy day. It rained last night.”

You say nothing, because you’re chemically paralyzed and deeply sedated. All the drugs in the world to keep you from trying to breathe. My machine does it much better than you ever will.

I look over the fingers on your left hand. They’re falling off. You’re so sick that I was forced to choose your brain and your bowels to get blood instead of your fingers and toes.

Later that day, I take a long camera and put it down the tube breathing for you. I need to get some of the mucous in your lungs out. I quietly apologize for moving around your tube. It’s in your neck now, a surgically created hole, because the tube in your mouth caused your tongue to bleed. Your heart rate on the monitor shoots up. You’re paralyzed, but this is hurting you. I can tell by your heart rate. I ask your nurse for more medications to drip through your IVs. Please go back to sleep.

I watch your nurse troubleshoot your new kidneys. Except it’s a machine, your kidneys, because they stopped working from the weeks of toxins I gave you to try to keep you alive.

I’m not sure, but you probably don’t know who you are anymore. Your brain is so confused by the forced paralysis, the forced sleep, the inability to think, that you’ve become lost. Who are you?

Your family wants you to live, as every loved one wants for their person, so every day I watch your body die a little more. Every day I add a new medication to stave off the inevitable. A new side effect. You haven’t had a bowel movement in weeks. Your body is starving.

Eventually, your immune system and your body can’t fight off the bacteria living in your own body, your own skin, the normal things in the air. The bacteria take hold. They start using your blood to grow. They fill up your lungs with their damage. I add more medications.

I watch your last weeks alive. I watch your organs fail. I watch your fingers fall off. I watch your skin stop being able to protect your muscles and fat and just wear away in places. I watch your last few weeks alive, not knowing who you are, forcefully keeping you asleep. I hope you don’t feel this.

In 25 days, I will tell your family that despite every possible forceful thing I can do to keep you alive, your last little bit is now dying too. It might be your heart, starved for oxygen and trying so hard to keep up that it finally couldn’t squeeze any more. It might be your brain, where weeks of dying finally gave you a stroke.

If they’re kind, your family will tell me to keep you asleep and let you die. If they don’t believe me, I will spend my last moments with you watching someone crack every rib in your chest. A demand to your broken body that I can no longer demand. Stay alive.

I am angry for you. I am angry someone lied to you. I am angry that you were taken advantage of, for reasons I will never understand.

If you have not been vaccinated against COVID-19, this is how you die from it.

Please reconsider. You are wrong. Please give the small part of you that whispers, maybe I have been lied to, give it a chance.

Do not die like this.

-a tired ICU fellow.
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People are running out of words to describe this obsession you have dude . Even though you are severely testing my no block policy I can’t help but to watch where this train wreck ends up .
 
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mad4vols said:
I don't understand these anti-vaccine doctors. Not only is there no evidence that the COVID vaccines are harmful, there is no data that ivermectin has any effectiveness to treat or prevent covid-19.

Seven doctors contract Covid after attending Florida anti-vaccine summit
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Do you have any idea how annoying you are at this point?

Everyone on this site knows your stance. We get it.

We are all adults, though. Just stop.

You aren’t changing anyone’s minds and nobody cares what you post at this point.
 
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NEO said:
Do you have any idea how annoying you are at this point?

Everyone on this site knows your stance. We get it.

We are all adults, though. Just stop.

You aren’t changing anyone’s minds and nobody cares what you post at this point.
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Yes he/she/it knows how annoying they are that’s why they still do it. I don’t have anybody on ignore yet but I’m about there with this covidiot.
 
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LouderVol said:
How does a religious exemption end?
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It can end at any time. With my company they put the disclaimer in they can rescind it at any time. They can remove you too another facility or put you on leave if there were an “outbreak” whatever that means. Weekly testing at my cost and only covers you until they decide it doesn’t. You also can’t see any Human Resources person at my site to hand them a paper copy of anything. Some contract huh, benefits the company only and not the employees.
We’ve got one computer out of 30 that will send any documents to HR. Very frustrating typing for 30 minutes only to be told you can’t send this.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Yes he/she/it knows how annoying they are that’s why they still do it. I don’t have anybody on ignore yet but I’m about there with this covidiot.
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I ignored Mad4Vols a few days ago. It has been a nice change. Now I just see a message in the lower right-hand corner of the screen that gives me an option to "Show ignored content", so I know when he's posted something.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
It can end at any time. With my company they put the disclaimer in they can rescind it at any time. They can remove you too another facility or put you on leave if there were an “outbreak” whatever that means. Weekly testing at my cost and only covers you until they decide it doesn’t. You also can’t see any Human Resources person at my site to hand them a paper copy of anything. Some contract huh, benefits the company only and not the employees.
We’ve got one computer out of 30 that will send any documents to HR. Very frustrating typing for 30 minutes only to be told you can’t send this.
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Lol wut. That's jacked up. If you can claim it as a right it doesnt end. Period. As far as I know freedom of religion doesnt even specifiy that it has to be a formalized religion. This is them playing politics with your right.
 
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