Vaccine or not?

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mad4vols said:
Never thought of you as a liar before. I guess if someone pushes you in a corner like this poster, this is your go to approach.
I have pointed out antivaxers that have a large platform, wont deny that, how much blood is on their hands, they deserve to be called out. Have I ever wished for it, never. You have a sick mind, do better please.
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Do you only read antivax articles ? You do know , I mean you seriously have to know by now that , you fully vaxxed and me not vaxxed at all have the same potential of spreading Covid right ? How much blood is on your fully vaxxed hands ? What do you do for a living , I hope it’s not working with the public . You can’t be this obtuse .. can you ?
 
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mad4vols said:
That’s different from what you stated plus in the article it still advises getting vaccinated, so you pick and choose what you want to fit your narrative.
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The articles clearly state you are just as likely being vaccinated to spread the virus as someone unvaccinated.

I’m vaccinated. So if I get Covid (again) and spread it to someone do I too have blood on my hands?
 
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mad4vols said:
That’s different from what you stated plus in the article it still advises getting vaccinated, so you pick and choose what you want to fit your narrative.
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He blatantly says that vaccinated people who get infected have the same load of virus as an unvaccinated person who’s infected. So how if we’re both infected are you not at the same risk of spreading it as me? I don’t give a **** what the article advises me to do. I went 2 years of not contracting covid without changing a damn thing, never missing a day of work and caught it from my vaccinated wife after spending 12 hrs in a car with her coughing up a lung. My unvaccinated parents went 2 years traveling 5-6x a year to FL without contracting it, my mother gets vaccinated and within a few months gets Covid and gives it to my unvaccinated dad and sister in the matter of 3 days. You love anecdotes and not actual statistics so there’s an anecdote for you. Before you respond let me go post it on Tik Tok so it’s scientifically cleared first.
 
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Do you only read antivax articles ? You do know , I mean you seriously have to know by now that , you fully vaxxed and me not vaxxed at all have the same potential of spreading Covid right ? How much blood is on your fully vaxxed hands ? What do you do for a living , I hope it’s not working with the public . You can’t be this obtuse .. can you ?
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Be honest, vax have a much less chance to spread vs not vaxxed, it’s not equal.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
It is very random and i think we are still early in our understanding of it. I understand that you are less likely to have a serious adverse reaction if you are young, healthy, etc. However, I feel it is disingenuous to pretend that if you are young, healthy, etc, it is something you should ignore or pretend like it is the common cold or the flu. There are some weird things this virus does and being in good shape is not a silver bullet. That's not me saying "mandate vaccines," that's me saying, "don't pretend like it's a common cold."
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Surely then you would agree that our borders need to be secure from this mass crossing of 2M unvaccinated immigrants in the past year?
 
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Septic said:
It's good to see that Fauci's knowledge is back on the menu of acceptable science.
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It’s simply proof that the earlier statements of you won’t catch and spread it if vaccinated were a mistake. They remain a mistake as transmission from a case load are at all time highs especially in heavily vaxed areas. Honest question, why once transmission didn’t really seem to slow and breakthroughs became the norm did the narrative shift to “well look at hospitalizations and deaths they’re down”? Which we would all acknowledge is a good thing and the vaccine served it’s purpose; it prevents death. Which should be the only goal that ever mattered, as transmission control is impossible. Now the narrative has shifted back to “look at the number of cases”! If the hospitalizations and deaths aren’t following the rise in cases, as they haven’t, manageable cases are of little consequence or concern.
 
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BP4Prez said:
The articles clearly state you are just as likely being vaccinated to spread the virus as someone unvaccinated.

I’m vaccinated. So if I get Covid (again) and spread it to someone do I too have blood on my hands?
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BP4Prez said:
The articles clearly state you are just as likely being vaccinated to spread the virus as someone unvaccinated.

I’m vaccinated. So if I get Covid (again) and spread it to someone do I too have blood on my hands?
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If you are gonna quote my comment, get it correct.
The blood on someone’s hands applies to what I mentioned on the public figures that are telling people not to get vaxxed and end up saying they wish they got the vax after they ended up in the hospital with Covid and right before they died from it. That is criminal in my opinion.
Do some radio hosts ring a bell?
 
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AthensVol2007 said:
It’s simply proof that the earlier statements of you won’t catch and spread it if vaccinated were a mistake. They remain a mistake as transmission from a case load are at all time highs especially in heavily vaxed areas. Honest question, why once transmission didn’t really seem to slow and breakthroughs became the norm did the narrative shift to “well look at hospitalizations and deaths they’re down”? Which we would all acknowledge is a good thing and the vaccine served it’s purpose; it prevents death. Which should be the only goal that ever mattered, as transmission control is impossible. Now the narrative has shifted back to “look at the number of cases”! If the hospitalizations and deaths aren’t following the rise in cases, as they haven’t, manageable cases are of little consequence or concern.
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From your own article:

"According to Fauci, these findings differ from what was observed in cases involving the previously dominant alpha variant."

If you're going to cite Fauci to make a point, you're going to need to do so in context and completely - otherwise you look like the rest of the anti vaxxer whackos that skulk around these forums cherry picking this and that when it suits their needs.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Surely then you would agree that our borders need to be secure from this mass crossing of 2M unvaccinated immigrants in the past year?
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Ad hominem is ad hominem. I think our border policy should be tightened. My border stance has nothing to do with whether I think our neighborhood pediatrician is downplaying the potential severity of covid.
 
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