Vaccine or not?

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#15,578
Septic said:
No. You. Didn't.

Can someone help this guy out? He's looking for credible evidence (any evidence) that the vaccine was responsible for 20k deaths.

You keep talking about honest conversation but you can't even provide evidence to what you're asserting.

Dude, I literally gave you the link to a study that was in JAMA, was peer reviewed and it completely contradicts what you're hoping that folks buy without asking questions.

Again, I'm not even saying you're wrong - I'm just asking you to cite the source of your claim.
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VAERS has been credible until covid vaxs...it was actually responsible for numerous drugs recalled due to Vaers reporting
 
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Vol8188 said:
I cited multiple sources even yours seems to agree with my count. You’re the only one misrepresenting anything. You’re continually pretending as if this is fake which is insane. Your own source said 14k reported deaths 2 months ago. Yet you pretend 18k now is absurd?

This is one of the more dishonest things I’ve seen. And yes it’s experimental. An emergency authorization means “we haven’t finished all the needed studies, but we are going to go ahead and release it because there’s an emergency”.

Now just like “reported” Covid deaths, x% of “reported” vaccine deaths will be false. But as long as you continue to lie about the reports, it’s impossible for us to discuss any of next level details of those reports
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bro, you cited lifesitenews.com & granitegrok.com

Forgive me if I don't trust a "far right wing" publication that has been banned from social platforms for spreading misinformation. or another one, called granitegrok.com that reads more like a r/thedonald or 4chan website.

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Here's my evidence your granitegrok and lifesitenews are f.o.s.:

Surveillance for Adverse Events After COVID-19 mRNA Vaccination
 
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#15,581
Septic said:
It was.

Now any whacko with an agenda can file a report, and have.

AAAS
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They have always has that ability...why now are the are "the whackos" reporting...most never knew VAERS existed...only Drs did...and why is the false reporting not being prosecuted??? Its illegal to falsehoods to VAERS...lots of unexplained things happening with VAERS
 
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#15,583
Septic said:
bro, you cited lifesitenews.com & granitegrok.com

Forgive me if I don't trust a "far right wing" publication that has been banned from social platforms for spreading misinformation. or another one, called granitegrok.com that reads more like a r/thedonald or 4chan website.

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Here's my evidence your granitegrok and lifesitenews are f.o.s.:

Surveillance for Adverse Events After COVID-19 mRNA Vaccination
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Your own source agreed. How can you continue to deny the 18k reported deaths?
 
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#15,584
whodeycin85 said:
They have always has that ability...why now are the are "the whackos" reporting...most never knew VAERS existed...only Drs did...and why is the false reporting not being prosecuted??? Its illegal to falsehoods to VAERS...lots of unexplained things happening with VAERS
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Are you kidding?

It's illegal to tear the labels off a mattress before purchase too, wonder why they don't prosecute that?
 
#15,586
#15,586
Septic said:
Are you kidding?

It's illegal to tear the labels off a mattress before purchase too, wonder why they don't prosecute that?
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Don't you think spreading disinformation about a "deadly pandemic" would be more serious then removing a tag??? Kind of a sad comparison..
Also each claim is verified so prosecution would be easy...
 
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#15,587
whodeycin85 said:
Don't you think spreading disinformation about a "deadly pandemic" would be more serious then removing a tag??? Kind of a sad comparison..
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It's about as absurd as you believing whackos wouldn't lie on an anonymous website.

What do you guys care, you don't believe it's a "deadly pandemic" to begin with.
 
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#15,588
Septic said:
It's about as absurd as you believing whackos wouldnt lie on an anonymous website when they have an agenda that gets them as lathered up as you antivaxxers.
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Why now??? Why the covid vax??? And its not anonymous....there are very specific forms that need to be filled out...to report
 
#15,589
#15,589
whodeycin85 said:
Why now??? Why the covid vax??? And its not anonymous....there are very specific forms that need to be filled out...to report
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Because it's a political football.

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False reports to VAERS
VAERS is like the Wikipedia of data reporting. Anyone can report anything. Many reports are helpful. Some reports are nonsense – to prove the point, one anesthesiologist successfully submitted a VAERS report several years ago that the flu vaccine had turned him into The Incredible Hulk. More recently, a false report of a 2-year-old dying from a COVID-19 vaccine was removed from VAERS because the CDC says it was "completely made up." Source
 
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#15,592
Septic said:
Where did it agree that the vaccine caused the deaths? Please cite the language exactly.
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@Vol8188 Here, let me help.

Reporting even unrelated deaths
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires health care providers to report any serious adverse event (including death) that happens after a COVID-19 vaccination – whether or not the provider thinks there is any link. The CDC says, "Health care providers are required to report to VAERS the following adverse events after COVID-19 vaccination…regardless if the reporter thinks the vaccine caused the AE." AE stands for adverse event and includes death.

That means that if a vaccinated person drowns, gets in a car crash or is struck by lightning, their death must be reported to VAERS as an adverse event. Since we've vaccinated over 223 million people in the United States, many deaths will occur coincidentally after vaccination.

As of Nov. 2, people have reported to VAERS 14,506 deaths that occurred sometime after COVID-19 vaccination. Doctors at the CDC review each reported death, looking at death certificates, autopsy and medical records. Additional CDC vaccine safety monitoring systems such as the National Healthcare Safety Network, Vaccine Safety Datalink, Clinical Immununization Safety Assessment Project and FDA's vaccine safety reporting systems are then used to provide more rigorous scientific investigation of potential adverse events. The true number of deaths currently attributed to COVID-19 vaccines in detailed scientific investigation is quite small.


I've highlighted the important bits for you. Beyond helping you understand that the 14,506 deaths were not due to the vaccination, the deaths simply occurred after the people had been vaccinated - for all manners of death. I'm trying but in my mortal form, I can't understand this crucial point for you.
 
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#15,594
Vol8188 said:
It stated 14k reported deaths as of November. What’re you disagreeing with?
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geezus. Either you're trolling or severely developmentally delayed.

Those deaths were not attributed to damn vaccine you goof.

Do you even read?
 
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#15,596
Orangeslice13 said:
Oxford academia just did a double blind study.
Anyone read that?

In June when they said they were doing a study errbody go so excited.
I wonder what happened?

Meta-analysis of Randomized Trials of Ivermectin to Treat SARS-CoV-2 Infection


ShitFire I wish it worked too. I’m over this garbage but you can **** in one hand and wish in the other…..
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Oh... I forgot the one source of anecdotal data that is close to home... my doctor.

He told me on my visit last month that he had treated at the time about 88 patients for COVID and had no hospitalizations. I think he said 8 days was the longest recovery time he had.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Oh... I forgot the one source of anecdotal data that is close to home... my doctor.

He told me on my visit last month that he had treated at the time about 88 patients for COVID and had no hospitalizations. I think he said 8 days was the longest recovery time he had.
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He should probably do a study.
If it worked he’d be both rich and famous.
I wonder why he doesn’t?
 
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