Vaccine or not?

[MAD]

Even Donald Trump is tired of the antivaxers.

 

[VolinWayne]

I'm sure this is just another coincidence

49-year-old Carlos Tejada, a New York Times Deputy Asia Editor, died of a heart attack last week mere hours after getting a Covid booster shot.

Mr. Tejada received a Johnson & Johnson Covid vaccine in July, per his Instagram account.

Tejada received a Moderna booster shot on December 16 and died of a heart attack less than one day later.

“Double-vaxxed. Janssen-fueled, Moderna-boosted. Hey Omicron: Hit me with your wet snot,” Tejada boasted on Instagram on December 16.

“On Dec. 16, in Seoul, South Korea, he received a Moderna mRNA/LNP “booster.” No clinical trials have ever been conducted to examine the safety or efficacy of mixing various types of these vaccines, and Carlos did not give informed consent, as the consent form was in Korean, a language he could not read. He joked that Omicron should “hit me with your wet snot.”” former New York Times journalist Alex Berenson wrote on his Substack.



49-Year-Old New York Times Editor Dies of Heart Attack One Day After Posting About Getting COVID Booster Shot

Carlos Tejada, Deputy Asia Editor for The Times, Dies at 49

 

[AshG]

I'm sure this is just another coincidence

49-year-old Carlos Tejada, a New York Times Deputy Asia Editor, died of a heart attack last week mere hours after getting a Covid booster shot.

Mr. Tejada received a Johnson & Johnson Covid vaccine in July, per his Instagram account.

Tejada received a Moderna booster shot on December 16 and died of a heart attack less than one day later.

“Double-vaxxed. Janssen-fueled, Moderna-boosted. Hey Omicron: Hit me with your wet snot,” Tejada boasted on Instagram on December 16.

“On Dec. 16, in Seoul, South Korea, he received a Moderna mRNA/LNP “booster.” No clinical trials have ever been conducted to examine the safety or efficacy of mixing various types of these vaccines, and Carlos did not give informed consent, as the consent form was in Korean, a language he could not read. He joked that Omicron should “hit me with your wet snot.”” former New York Times journalist Alex Berenson wrote on his Substack.



49-Year-Old New York Times Editor Dies of Heart Attack One Day After Posting About Getting COVID Booster Shot

Carlos Tejada, Deputy Asia Editor for The Times, Dies at 49

If we add up all the potential deaths from the vaccinations, we still sit at well below a very tight threshold of acceptable negative outcomes.

In examining background information to inform my reply to this post, I came across the below explanation. It is worth reading in toto.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2446471/#!po=16.6667

An excerpt of note:

In some cases, preliminary analysis of adverse event rates may suggest an apparent risk, although ultimately that risk could be dismissed as artifactual. For example, preliminary review of data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Report System showed that higher rates of serious adverse events were reported for children who received a specific brand of recombinant hepatitis B vaccine; subsequent analysis from a retrospective cohort study showed that there was no difference in rates of adverse events for the 2 vaccines.22 Signals from spontaneous reporting therefore need to be interpreted very cautiously.

 

[VolinWayne]

If we add up all the potential deaths from the vaccinations, we still sit at well below a very tight threshold of acceptable negative outcomes.

In examining background information to inform my reply to this post, I came across the below explanation. It is worth reading in toto.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2446471/#!po=16.6667

An excerpt of note:

In some cases, preliminary analysis of adverse event rates may suggest an apparent risk, although ultimately that risk could be dismissed as artifactual. For example, preliminary review of data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Report System showed that higher rates of serious adverse events were reported for children who received a specific brand of recombinant hepatitis B vaccine; subsequent analysis from a retrospective cohort study showed that there was no difference in rates of adverse events for the 2 vaccines.22 Signals from spontaneous reporting therefore need to be interpreted very cautiously.

I wonder how many adverse reactions are not being reported though. Note how the New York Times article never once mentioned the fact that he had just gotten the booster shot. This just simply does not get reported by mainstream.

 

[VolinWayne]

The latest VAERS data has been published.

Dr. Peter McCullough (@PeterMcCulloughMD) estimates that VAERS is underreported by a factor of "4 to 5".

983,756 Adverse Events
108,572 Hospitalizations
107,860 Urgent Care
12,317 Bell's Palsy
10,429 Heart Attacks
20,560 Myocarditis
34,615 Permanently Disabled
20,622 Deaths

100% Safe And Effective




COVID Vaccine Data

 

[whodeycin85]

The latest VAERS data has been published.

Dr. Peter McCullough (@PeterMcCulloughMD) estimates that VAERS is underreported by a factor of "4 to 5".

983,756 Adverse Events
108,572 Hospitalizations
107,860 Urgent Care
12,317 Bell's Palsy
10,429 Heart Attacks
20,560 Myocarditis
34,615 Permanently Disabled
20,622 Deaths

100% Safe And Effective




COVID Vaccine Data

Thats a lot of adverse events....

 

[FLVOL69]

The latest VAERS data has been published.

Dr. Peter McCullough (@PeterMcCulloughMD) estimates that VAERS is underreported by a factor of "4 to 5".

983,756 Adverse Events
108,572 Hospitalizations
107,860 Urgent Care
12,317 Bell's Palsy
10,429 Heart Attacks
20,560 Myocarditis
34,615 Permanently Disabled
20,622 Deaths

100% Safe And Effective




COVID Vaccine Data

Someone cc this to Septic

 

[Septic]

I just thought it was funny how you cherry pick the ones you take a swipe at . It’s noticeable. I just felt like pointing it out today . Unbunch your thong , just an observation

What part of "lol" suggested my thong was bunched?

 

[wmcovol]

Given the recent disasters from the Pentagon, I’ll pass on their version of Gook.

Potential 'universal COVID vaccine' has Nashville connection
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/p...ainst-all-variants-has-a-nashville-connection

 

[Septic]

Someone cc this to Septic

You think the Wikipedia of Covid vaccine medical reporting is convincing to any rational person at this point?

 

[Orangeslice13]

I'm sure this is just another coincidence

49-year-old Carlos Tejada, a New York Times Deputy Asia Editor, died of a heart attack last week mere hours after getting a Covid booster shot.

Mr. Tejada received a Johnson & Johnson Covid vaccine in July, per his Instagram account.

Tejada received a Moderna booster shot on December 16 and died of a heart attack less than one day later.

“Double-vaxxed. Janssen-fueled, Moderna-boosted. Hey Omicron: Hit me with your wet snot,” Tejada boasted on Instagram on December 16.

“On Dec. 16, in Seoul, South Korea, he received a Moderna mRNA/LNP “booster.” No clinical trials have ever been conducted to examine the safety or efficacy of mixing various types of these vaccines, and Carlos did not give informed consent, as the consent form was in Korean, a language he could not read. He joked that Omicron should “hit me with your wet snot.”” former New York Times journalist Alex Berenson wrote on his Substack.



49-Year-Old New York Times Editor Dies of Heart Attack One Day After Posting About Getting COVID Booster Shot

Carlos Tejada, Deputy Asia Editor for The Times, Dies at 49

Considering he has had several fairly members die at a similar age from heart attack and actually died from the widow maker, ya, I’d say it’s a coincidence.

And it’s just as ugly when antivaxers celebrate someone’s death.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Just so y'all understand:

For decades, VAERS has been a widely-accepted and used tool for reporting, analyzing, and educating patients on vaccine safety. All of a sudden, when it's not showing what some people want it to show, it's trash.

Carry on.

 

[apevol]

You think the Wikipedia of Covid vaccine medical reporting is convincing to any rational person at this point?

I think rational people have long recognized stastical analysis of this pandemic can't be trusted from any direction.

 

[FLVOL69]

You think the Wikipedia of Covid vaccine medical reporting is convincing to any rational person at this point?

You know my stance on it, future events regarding individuals taking these shots will prove us right time is on our side.

 

[evillawyer]

I didn’t hear him say anything about murder mandates I’ll just scroll down and see if septic weighed in on your ridiculous take or he will ignore your post like normal while trashing others .

You guys are funny. I'm clearly mocking the FORM of argument he made. It's a sh*tty form of argument that you can see when you substitute in different terms for "get vaccinated." That's what I was doing by subbing in "not murdering" for "get vaccinated."

 

[0nelilreb]

You guys are funny. I'm clearly mocking the FORM of argument he made. It's a sh*tty form of argument that you can see when you substitute in different terms for "get vaccinated." That's what I was doing by subbing in "not murdering" for "get vaccinated."

Terrible example .

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Yes, you’re a bastion of rational conversation.
******* is what conversation between you and I have devolved into.

that's too bad.

 

[AthensVol2007]

Ok.

Are you asking me if I think that non covid related deaths ought not be reported as covid deaths just to get a little more cash from the fed?

Sure, I'm with you.

Still, this doesn't have anything to do with what's being discussed.

I gave you examples of people under 50 with no signs whatsoever of having any health issues who died within a week of the vaccine all from similar complications and they’re all dismissed by the government as unrelated to the vaccine. So how can anyone give you information or examples of vaccine deaths when they’re all immediately scrubbed; by the same group telling don’t worry they’re safe, take them till we tell you to stop?

 

[n_huffhines]

Why now??? Why the covid vax??? And its not anonymous....there are very specific forms that need to be filled out...to report

It's pretty obvious it's because it's politicized. IMDB was reliable until the anti-woke crowd started voting everything down (before movies even came out).

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

It's pretty obvious it's because it's politicized. IMDB was reliable until the anti-woke crowd started voting everything down (before movies even came out).

anti-woke?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

You know my stance on it, future events regarding individuals taking these shots will prove us right time is on our side.

As long as you are able to maintain a control group (the unvaccinated).

 

[n_huffhines]

So wait....your not ok with government stepping on an individuals rights...but your ok with a group of buisnesses (which we have seen"big tech") doing the same as long as its not called government??? Either way its the same...individuals rights are lost whether by .gov or buisness collusion...

This entire pandemic has shaken me away from a lot of the libertarian philosophies because they have a blind spot when it comes to dealing with fascism.

Libertarianism isn't about being "OK" with behavior. It's about protecting rights, and as long as a business isn't violating someone's rights, you can't use the government to violate theirs. That's it. Don't like what twitter's doing? You don't have to be OK with them. Delete it off your phone. Tell other people why they suck. Organize a protest. Organize a social media campaign against them. Just don't use the government to violate rights.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

CDC data like this is dubious because of them modifying their definition of vaccinated.

Nevertheless, I still like my odds at 6.1 out of 100,000. That's a 99.39% survival rate.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Libertarianism isn't about being "OK" with behavior. It's about protecting rights, and as long as a business isn't violating someone's rights, you can't use the government to violate theirs. That's it. Don't like what twitter's doing? You don't have to be OK with them. Delete it off your phone. Tell other people why they suck. Organize a protest. Organize a social media campaign against them. Just don't use the government to violate rights.

It is getting harder and harder to be civil disobedient when the govt and tech companies are working together. Lok at how they went after Parlor.