Vaccine or not?

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Big Orange#1 said:
Not saying it’s not vaccine or covid related. But this is not extremely uncommon at all for extreme cardiac endurance sports like soccer or marathon cycling. Just look at the list of sudden cardiac deaths in soccer all time way before mRNA vaccines were implemented. List of association footballers who died while playing - Wikipedia
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Fair enough, but even just looking at this list, there have been approximately 225 soccer players who have who have died while playing soccer. This list dates all the way back to 1889. There were 20 of these deaths listed in 2021 alone. So to be clear, it took 131 years for approximately 200 soccer players to die while playing, and in 2021 a total of 20 soccer players died while playing. There were a few years prior to this where there were 9 or 10 deaths while playing but the number doubled in 2021 over the previous highest year. I'd be interested in seeing some stats and history on players having cardiac issues while playing.
 
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VolinWayne said:
Fair enough, but even just looking at this list, there have been approximately 225 soccer players who have who have died while playing soccer. This list dates all the way back to 1889. There were 20 of these deaths listed in 2021 alone. So to be clear, it took 131 years for approximately 200 soccer players to die while playing, and in 2021 a total of 20 soccer players died while playing. There were a few years prior to this where there were 9 or 10 deaths while playing but the number doubled in 2021 over the previous highest year. I'd be interested in seeing some stats and history on players having cardiac issues while playing.
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Yeah 2021 has had a lot more cardiac incidents, but even before then it seemed to begin happening multiple times per year in the 2000’s and not before then. And it may be reactions to the actual virus itself, my unvaxxed 23 year old wife has had blood pressure spikes and chest pain after contracting covid 🤷‍♂️. I imagine if something similar happened to these freak athletes while they are out sprinting 9 miles during a game I could see how it can be causing increasing rates of cardiac arrest.
 
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First of all, nowhere in the article I quoted did it say anything about positive HIV tests. We are talking about Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome (AIDS) is the disease. HIV is Human Immunodeficiency Virus(HIV) and is the causal factor (reason) for AIDS.

I might also add that nowhere in the Economic Times article did it actually debunk that the covid boosters are causing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome (AIDS). All it did was quoted a few experts who said they didn't think this was possible. Who gets to decide who is the expert now?? What makes your "experts" more reliable then the experts who have studied and diagnosed the public data from the health department.

I get so tired of people like you who immediately try to dismiss and write off all studies that come out that goes against the accepted narrative of mainstream media as "far right-wing propoganda". Whatever happened to presenting information and simply allowing people to look at information and decide for themselves what's right for them. People like you are nothing more then modern day nazis
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People that realize they are loosing in a debate always start name calling.......it happens every time
 
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We Are the Dirty Little Secrets” – The Vaccine Injured and Their Families Speak Out

“President Biden and Dr. Fauci… It’s time to help us.”

“We are real people fighting to be heard… the CDC or the NIH will not acknowledge us.”

“Our cries for help and acknowledgement have fallen on deaf ears.”

“[My son] collapsed and he died right in front of me.”

“The government has completely abandoned me.”

“We Are the Dirty Little Secrets” – The Vaccine Injured and Their Families Speak Out
 
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Biggest I told you so is occurring right in front of us. Never rush out and try anything when it comes to healthcare.

Or you can go ahead and get a 4th booster and buy some surgical mesh and a metal on metal hip. Probably get a good deal.
 
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There was an older lady at my church who shared her testimony yesterday. She shared how that in early 2021, immediately after her 2nd Phizer shot, her health immediately began to deteriote with various health issues. She eventually got covid, was hospitalized for a while and she said its basically a miracle that she is still alive today.
 
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So there's a man in Ohio who has a 9 year old son who has been a patient with Cleveland Clinic (one of the best hospitals in the country and importantly for this post, it is a privately owned hospital) since birth due to multiple issues. Kid has had a really tough life and now has only 20% function of his one kidney.

Seems his father is a perfect match but won't get the vax. He posts all over Facebook and Twitter about being anti-vax as is his wife. Cleveland Clinic says no vax, no transplant here.

If one of my kids was going to be run over I would gladly take the hit instead, as probably 99% of the people posting here, liberal or conservative, would do. Much less get a shot. If it meant my child's life, I'd take a lethal injection. This guy evidently doesn't feel that way. Maybe he thinks his life is more important than that of his son. In my book, he's scum.

Instead he likes to rant about the hospital violating his 1st Amendment rights. For the last time everyone, a private business or person cannot violate the 1st Amendment, that is state actions only and Cleveland Clinic is not a governmental entity.
 
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So there's a man in Ohio who has a 9 year old son who has been a patient with Cleveland Clinic (one of the best hospitals in the country and importantly for this post, it is a privately owned hospital) since birth due to multiple issues. Kid has had a really tough life and now has only 20% function of his one kidney.

Seems his father is a perfect match but won't get the vax. He posts all over Facebook and Twitter about being anti-vax as is his wife. Cleveland Clinic says no vax, no transplant here.

If one of my kids was going to be run over I would gladly take the hit instead, as probably 99% of the people posting here, liberal or conservative, would do. Much less get a shot. If it meant my child's life, I'd take a lethal injection. This guy evidently doesn't feel that way. Maybe he thinks his life is more important than that of his son. In my book, he's scum.

Instead he likes to rant about the hospital violating his 1st Amendment rights. For the last time everyone, a private business or person cannot violate the 1st Amendment, that is state actions only and Cleveland Clinic is not a governmental entity.
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So hospitals are only harvesting organs from vaccinated donors or just making political statements at the expense of someone’s life?
 
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WBO said:
So there's a man in Ohio who has a 9 year old son who has been a patient with Cleveland Clinic (one of the best hospitals in the country and importantly for this post, it is a privately owned hospital) since birth due to multiple issues. Kid has had a really tough life and now has only 20% function of his one kidney.

Seems his father is a perfect match but won't get the vax. He posts all over Facebook and Twitter about being anti-vax as is his wife. Cleveland Clinic says no vax, no transplant here.

If one of my kids was going to be run over I would gladly take the hit instead, as probably 99% of the people posting here, liberal or conservative, would do. Much less get a shot. If it meant my child's life, I'd take a lethal injection. This guy evidently doesn't feel that way. Maybe he thinks his life is more important than that of his son. In my book, he's scum.

Instead he likes to rant about the hospital violating his 1st Amendment rights. For the last time everyone, a private business or person cannot violate the 1st Amendment, that is state actions only and Cleveland Clinic is not a governmental entity.
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Guy is an azzhole but so is the hospital administration.
 
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So hospitals are only harvesting organs from vaccinated donors or just making political statements at the expense of someone’s life?
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You need to ask the hospitals that, but while you want to blame the hospital, I blame the father. It's his son he's willing to let die over a freaking vaccine.
 
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