Vaccine or not?

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willidan said:
Of course you have an agenda and that agenda is dangerous. You spread disinformation under the guise of being a pediatrician and scientist.
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Just because you disagree doesn’t make it disinformation. Put him on ignore if you need to filter. Problem solved.
 
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willidan said:
Of course you have an agenda and that agenda is dangerous. You spread disinformation under the guise of being a pediatrician and scientist.
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Which disinformation is he spreading? The current POTUS stood in national TV and said if you get the shot, you won't get the virus. The CDC has came out and said their numbers were wrong, and masks don't stop it. Are those not disinformation, and with much greater influence than a poster on Volnation? I don't recall seeing you upset about that?
 
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willidan said:
Of course you have an agenda and that agenda is dangerous. You spread disinformation under the guise of being a pediatrician and scientist.
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I'm happy to address any specific "disinformation" that you would care to list. I provided a handy summary of my thoughts a couple pages back. You can even go line by line, if you'd like.

Also, could you even possibly give some idea as to what exactly my "agenda" might be? Population control? Profits off ivermectin and HCQ sales? A cut of the hospital incentive payments for CV19 admissions? Seriously, give us something.

I literally spend every working day taking care of kids, and the topic of CV19 doesn't even come up more than around once a week, and even then it's just for a required test for travel or some type of activity.
 
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And, since we are in attack mode: I consider anyone who advocated for isolation of children, closure of schools, cessation of exercise and other extra-curricular activities for kids, and forced muzzling and "social distancing" of the young guilty of child abuse.

There's a specific for you.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I apologize, but I do not remember exactly what I said last year about athletes. I know that at one point I brought up that not a single athlete in the entire world had died from the virus, but surely that has changed after 2 years. However it is certainly a very, very tiny percentage.

As to the exceedingly rare residual effects in young athletes: there are likely a number of factors in play -- post- viral, mental (as addressed in that article), deconditioning, etc. It would also be important to know if those affected had been vaccinated prior to their actual infections.

I'll try to look up some more recent data, as those anecdotal reports are a year old now.
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You talked about it before the shots came out and you were correct. The problem presented after the shots for young athletes.
 
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Where Is Comirnaty? Why Can No One in the United States Get the Licensed COVID Vaccine?

Dr. Robert Malone: "The government licensed the vaccines, but the vaccine manufacturers will not sell the licensed product in the United States, because otherwise they would incur liability issues and [be] forced to disclose information they don't want to disclose. And so they've continued to only provide the unlicensed emergency use authorization form, which is exactly what CEPI had advised under the leadership of Richard Hatchett, who, by the way, has strong ties to our intelligence community."

Where Is Comirnaty? Why Can No One in the United States Get the Licensed COVID Vaccine?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I'm happy to address any specific "disinformation" that you would care to list. I provided a handy summary of my thoughts a couple pages back. You can even go line by line, if you'd like.

Also, could you even possibly give some idea as to what exactly my "agenda" might be? Population control? Profits off ivermectin and HCQ sales? A cut of the hospital incentive payments for CV19 admissions? Seriously, give us something.

I literally spend every working day taking care of kids, and the topic of CV19 doesn't even come up more than around once a week, and even then it's just for a required test for travel or some type of activity.
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“Children are not at serious risk from CV19.”

Children do get seriously ill with CV19. Children have died from CV19. Children have become seriously ill and died from MISC post CV19. I am also a physician and have cared for these children.

Either you are a misinformed physician or purposely understating the impact of the disease to advance your ideology.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I'm happy to address any specific "disinformation" that you would care to list. I provided a handy summary of my thoughts a couple pages back. You can even go line by line, if you'd like.

Also, could you even possibly give some idea as to what exactly my "agenda" might be? Population control? Profits off ivermectin and HCQ sales? A cut of the hospital incentive payments for CV19 admissions? Seriously, give us something.

I literally spend every working day taking care of kids, and the topic of CV19 doesn't even come up more than around once a week, and even then it's just for a required test for travel or some type of activity.
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Hey Doc I didn’t know you were a scientist also. I have a question .. when Fauci does a FaceTime with all of you scientists , do you guys have to sacrifice a chicken or is that just something that Elon Musk is spreading on Twitter now to discredit him ?
 
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willidan said:
“Children are not at serious risk from CV19.”

Children do get seriously ill with CV19. Children have died from CV19. Children have become seriously ill and died from MISC post CV19. I am also a physician and have cared for these children.

Either you are a misinformed physician or purposely understating the impact of the disease to advance your ideology.
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That's incredible. You literally picked the most unarguable point from the entire list.

You do realize that the chance of a child dying from CV19 is approximately the same as the chance of them dying from a lightning strike, correct? And, since you are a physician, I assume you have been trying to find mental health appointments, cared for suicide attempts, and are treating obesity and type 2 diabetes, all of which has been exacerbated by our irrational response to the virus?

Just so you know, an entire team of local pediatric providers and the COS at our local tertiary care hospital agree, and they provided testimony to the school board and the legal team that fought to reverse the mask mandate. Guess they are all misinformed or have an agenda, as well. (Still waiting to hear what the agenda is).

Would you care to address the points I made or continue to make blanket, incorrect accusations?
 
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willidan said:
“Children are not at serious risk from CV19.”

Children do get seriously ill with CV19. Children have died from CV19. Children have become seriously ill and died from MISC post CV19. I am also a physician and have cared for these children.

Either you are a misinformed physician or purposely understating the impact of the disease to advance your ideology.
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Yes some children do. Statistically they don't though
 
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VolinWayne said:
Where Is Comirnaty? Why Can No One in the United States Get the Licensed COVID Vaccine?

Dr. Robert Malone: "The government licensed the vaccines, but the vaccine manufacturers will not sell the licensed product in the United States, because otherwise they would incur liability issues and [be] forced to disclose information they don't want to disclose. And so they've continued to only provide the unlicensed emergency use authorization form, which is exactly what CEPI had advised under the leadership of Richard Hatchett, who, by the way, has strong ties to our intelligence community."

Where Is Comirnaty? Why Can No One in the United States Get the Licensed COVID Vaccine?
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How many lawsuits over vaccine complications have been dismissed because of this?
 
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hog88 said:
Have any been filed? Seems like it would a futile effort and waste of money to do so since the manufacturers are immune from liability.
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It’s not and they’re probably not, at least not on some distinction between EUA and biologics license approval. I already explained this a few pages ago. TLDR version is that “Interchangeable” is a legal term of art defined in 42 USC 262. The law allows biosimilar products to be administered under an existing biologics license from the FDA. The forms haven’t been followed that I can tell, although it’s not entirely clear to me that they need to be for the same product from the same company, but regardless the FDA is instructing caregivers that it is an “interchangeable” product. That ought to be enough to at least get past summary judgment and 12b6 motions.

Vaccine or not?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
That's incredible. You literally picked the most unarguable point from the entire list.

You do realize that the chance of a child dying from CV19 is approximately the same as the chance of them dying from a lightning strike, correct? And, since you are a physician, I assume you have been trying to find mental health appointments, cared for suicide attempts, and are treating obesity and type 2 diabetes, all of which has been exacerbated by our irrational response to the virus?

Just so you know, an entire team of local pediatric providers and the COS at our local tertiary care hospital agree, and they provided testimony to the school board and the legal team that fought to reverse the mask mandate. Guess they are all misinformed or have an agenda, as well. (Still waiting to hear what the agenda is).

Would you care to address the points I made or continue to make blanket, incorrect accusations?
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Wait you’re actually saying children don’t die or have major complications from covid or are you stating that the rates of severe disease and death is low?

You stated that kids don’t have major complications from covid but now are admitting you’ve heard of a kid that died from it. Which is it doctor?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
That's incredible. You literally picked the most unarguable point from the entire list.

You do realize that the chance of a child dying from CV19 is approximately the same as the chance of them dying from a lightning strike, correct? And, since you are a physician, I assume you have been trying to find mental health appointments, cared for suicide attempts, and are treating obesity and type 2 diabetes, all of which has been exacerbated by our irrational response to the virus?

Just so you know, an entire team of local pediatric providers and the COS at our local tertiary care hospital agree, and they provided testimony to the school board and the legal team that fought to reverse the mask mandate. Guess they are all misinformed or have an agenda, as well. (Still waiting to hear what the agenda is).

Would you care to address the points I made or continue to make blanket, incorrect accusations?
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Also glad you found a group of local providers that agree with you. There are a bunch of nationally and internationally renowned ones that don’t.
 
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