Vaccine or not?

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We lost one of our instructors a week or so ago due to a heart attack. He was a fairly young guy... in his 40s... maybe 50s... he was on a cruise. I think they require these 'vaccinations' don't they? No underlying conditions of which I am aware (which doesn't mean there weren't any) Just an interesting 'coincidence'.

Pray for his family please. He was a wonderful person and a great instructor.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
We lost one of our instructors a week or so ago due to a heart attack. He was a fairly young guy... in his 40s... maybe 50s... he was on a cruise. I think they require these 'vaccinations' don't they? No underlying conditions of which I am aware (which doesn't mean there weren't any) Just an interesting 'coincidence'.

Pray for his family please. He was a wonderful person and a great instructor.
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Prayers up. That’s really young for coronary. Blessings to his family.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
We lost one of our instructors a week or so ago due to a heart attack. He was a fairly young guy... in his 40s... maybe 50s... he was on a cruise. I think they require these 'vaccinations' don't they? No underlying conditions of which I am aware (which doesn't mean there weren't any) Just an interesting 'coincidence'.

Pray for his family please. He was a wonderful person and a great instructor.
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I better watch my wording here. It is true that vaccination is required for most cruise lines. Prayers lifted for the family.
 
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OHvol40 said:
I think this is a good opportunity educational experience. I’m purposely very careful with my words. If you notice, I very rarely speak in absolutes. Also, I never said the vaccine wouldn’t lead to no variants. As a matter of fact, I used to word “inoculated.” So, no matter what it sounds like to you, there is no world in which I said what you’re trying to pin on me.
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Hmmmm... looks like some hedging and crawfishing going on here. Seems like you may be starting to see the light.
 
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Newborn Baby Deaths hit critical levels last seen in the 1980’s for 2nd time in 7 Months; is Pfizer’s Covid Jab to blame?

“The number of newborn babies sadly dying has surpassed critical levels for the 2nd time in 7 months in Scotland according to the Public Health Scotland database.

The discovery of these record-breaking deaths comes after it was revealed both Pfizer and Medicine Regulators hid the dangers of Covid-19 vaccination during pregnancy…”

Newborn Baby Deaths hit critical levels for 2nd time in 7 Months; is Pfizer's Covid Jab to blame?
 
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hog88 said:
That was misinformation just a few months ago.
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I'm sure those of us who have been saying the vaccines are causing blood clots and other heart issues won't be getting any apologies from the posters in this forum who claimed this was misinformation. Today's misinformation will be common knowledge just a few short months in the future. "Fact checkers" continue to loose credibility which makes it even harder to discern what real truth is. I think at the end of the day, the only thing most Americans really want is real and unbiased truth.
 
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Is COVID immunity equal to being vaccinated? Chattanooga doctor, residents talk new law

Local news article. From a doctor:
When we look at the science, and we look at the studies, the immunity that's generated by vaccination is superior and better than the immunity that's generated by natural infection," Dr. Anderson says.
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I'm pretty sure that's incorrect. I think I saw even when we thought the vaccine was decent, it wasn't as good as immunity. Somebody kept coming in here and claiming nobody was arguing it wasn't. Now with the variants, the vaccine is even more useless. Don't think the data is changing for the better for vaccines.
 
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Weezy said:
Is COVID immunity equal to being vaccinated? Chattanooga doctor, residents talk new law

Local news article. From a doctor:


I'm pretty sure that's incorrect. I think I saw even when we thought the vaccine was decent, it wasn't as good as immunity. Somebody kept coming in here and claiming nobody was arguing it wasn't. Now with the variants, the vaccine is even more useless. Don't think the data is changing for the better for vaccines.
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It would pretty much be the first time ever that a "vaccinated" immunity is "better" than a natural immunity.
 
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It sure is crazy to me. The people that had concerns, like me, and questioned this shot were called names, accused of not caring, and called conspiracy theorists. Now, slowly, everything is slowly coming out. Changes in fertility, masks didn't work, the shot didn't stop you from catching it, or spreading it, health risks are higher for many, blood clots, and the CDC backtracks on numbers. Idk, I don't feel as crazy as some tried to make me sound 🤔🤔
 
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