Vaccine or not?

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kiddiedoc said:
That's because UTD is a subscription based information service for providers (like me). The summary I provided is a peer-reviewed analysis of the data (which you don't believe or are willingly ignoring). I'll link the references for your medical expertise to review:

  1. Escher F, Pietsch H, Aleshcheva G, et al. Detection of viral SARS-CoV-2 genomes and histopathological changes in endomyocardial biopsies. ESC Heart Fail 2020; 7:2440.
  2. Salah HM, Mehta JL. Takotsubo cardiomyopathy and COVID-19 infection. Eur Heart J Cardiovasc Imaging 2020; 21:1299.
  3. Nicol M, Cacoub L, Baudet M, et al. Delayed acute myocarditis and COVID-19-related multisystem inflammatory syndrome. ESC Heart Fail 2020; 7:4371.
  4. Caforio ALP, Baritussio A, Basso C, Marcolongo R. Clinically Suspected and Biopsy-Proven Myocarditis Temporally Associated with SARS-CoV-2 Infection. Annu Rev Med 2022; 73:149.
  5. Kawakami R, Sakamoto A, Kawai K, et al. Pathological Evidence for SARS-CoV-2 as a Cause of Myocarditis: JACC Review Topic of the Week. J Am Coll Cardiol 2021; 77:314.
You will have to search for the articles, because the links lead to UpToDate. They are easy to find on the web.
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Odd, I was able to find and read the article online.

Here’s the first paragraph:

“Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2; previously referred to as 2019-nCoV). Patients with COVID-19 typically present with symptoms and signs of respiratory tract infection, but cardiac manifestations, including signs of myocardial injury, are common. This topic will discuss cardiac manifestations in adults with COVID-19.”

So, to be clear, even though the introduction paragraph says that cardiac manifestations including signs of myocardial injury are common, you claim that the snippet you posted, without a working link, was a summary of the entire contents of the article you thought I couldn’t access? Should we look at more of the article to see if it’s equally consistent?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
That's because UTD is a subscription based information service for providers (like me). The summary I provided is a peer-reviewed analysis of the data (which you don't believe or are willingly ignoring). I'll link the references for your medical expertise to review:

  1. Escher F, Pietsch H, Aleshcheva G, et al. Detection of viral SARS-CoV-2 genomes and histopathological changes in endomyocardial biopsies. ESC Heart Fail 2020; 7:2440.
  2. Salah HM, Mehta JL. Takotsubo cardiomyopathy and COVID-19 infection. Eur Heart J Cardiovasc Imaging 2020; 21:1299.
  3. Nicol M, Cacoub L, Baudet M, et al. Delayed acute myocarditis and COVID-19-related multisystem inflammatory syndrome. ESC Heart Fail 2020; 7:4371.
  4. Caforio ALP, Baritussio A, Basso C, Marcolongo R. Clinically Suspected and Biopsy-Proven Myocarditis Temporally Associated with SARS-CoV-2 Infection. Annu Rev Med 2022; 73:149.
  5. Kawakami R, Sakamoto A, Kawai K, et al. Pathological Evidence for SARS-CoV-2 as a Cause of Myocarditis: JACC Review Topic of the Week. J Am Coll Cardiol 2021; 77:314.
You will have to search for the articles, because the links lead to UpToDate. They are easy to find on the web.
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Here’s how your peer reviewed subscription based information service answered my actual question:

“For all age groups, the risk of myocarditis or pericarditis following mRNA vaccination is estimated in some, but not all [340], studies to be less than the risk associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection [342].”

That seems like a fairly straightforward answer. Shouldn’t have been this difficult for a provider like you with lots of subscriptions.
 
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Japanese Doctors Investigate the Link Between Covid Vaccine and Deaths

“The spike protein derived from the vaccine was found in the skin,” Sano explained.

“Spike proteins are locally suppressing the immune system,” Sano told reporters. “As a result, the spike proteins facilitate in reactivation of the herpesvirus.”

“The function of the spike proteins to produce adverse reactions is the formation of blood clots. And even worse, spike proteins can also locally induce inflammation,” he added.

“I don’t know if I should say this, but it has been found that vaccinated people are more likely to get coronavirus than unvaccinated people.”
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Hope those with vax never had the chicken pox / shingles.
 
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Wow, still stunned that the flat earth types are still arguing this point.

Don't get the vaccine if you don't want it. Fewer crazy right wingers voters in the long run.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Depends on your perspective.

Between Moderna and Pfizer, there was 141 reported cases of myocarditis out of 10.2 million. That would be the small part.

Of course, that's 7x as many cases as what you would expect (20). That percentage is significant...
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Small but significant correction to your post.
 
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