Vaccine or not?

Who the heil said I was worried? Fact is, an increasing number of parents are refusing these vaxxes for babies, which used to be mandatory. That's why the diseases are coming back.
Interestingly, I have seen more pushback on routine vaccines after all the BS from the past 3 years. I would say this was an unforeseen repercussion of making up Science and changing it every few months. There is definitely more of a general distrust in medicine and vaccines, and that is not just coming from my personal experience, but also from practitioners and medical staff from around the country.
 
I do think anti-vaxxers are why the measles, mumps, tuberculosis, and scarlet fever are re-emerging according to medical experts.
Another clarification: there is no TB vaccine currently used in the U.S., and there is no vaccine for Group A Streptococcus, the causative agent for scarlet fever. So, not sure you can blame "anti-vaxxers."
 
To clarify: when and which particular vaccines were ever "mandated" for babies?
They weren’t.. people who wanted their babies to have vaccines were taking the whole thing a little too far imo.., I remember people putting teeny masks on babies out in public in 2020, and I was thinking ‘you have got to be kidding me’..my parents got vaccinated, but my Dad, who was an orthopedic surgeon for many years, after the dust settled, stated ‘I do not recommend that for them’ ie his grandchildren
 
Mojo may be a dummy, but he ain't stupid 👀🤣


Seriously, politics has ruined almost everything


I don't understand how this is a political issue. It seems like if it truly was political it would be the people who voted for Trump that would be touting the vaccines and the left would be saying it's garbage. Apparently Trump still touts the vaccine as one of his big accomplishments. I guess it has in a way reminded me of why the government is not to be trusted. It doesn't matter if there is an R or a D behind there name.
 
I don't understand how this is a political issue. It seems like if it truly was political it would be the people who voted for Trump that would be touting the vaccines and the left would be saying it's garbage. Apparently Trump still touts the vaccine as one of his big accomplishments. I guess it has in a way reminded me of why the government is not to be trusted. It doesn't matter if there is an R or a D behind there name.
No, it isn’t… my mom thinks everyone should have every vaccine they come out with, including the flu, and she is a staunch Conservative… my Dad is as well, but thinks these particular vaccines should be everyone’s personal choice because the efficacy is not established, even now, and the safety is up for debate ie clotting issues, strokes (like my husband did)../ though to be fair, nobody could say if it was from the booster or covid itself because he had both
 
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Thank you. I do think anti-vaxxers are why the measles, mumps, tuberculosis, and scarlet fever are re-emerging according to medical experts.
Why Are Some Diseases Making a Comeback?

Yes and do you think those vaccines and the MRNA vaccine are very comparable to each other? I'm sure you read the entire (blank) packet that details all of the side effects etc when you got your covid vaccine.
 
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I don't understand how this is a political issue. It seems like if it truly was political it would be the people who voted for Trump that would be touting the vaccines and the left would be saying it's garbage. Apparently Trump still touts the vaccine as one of his big accomplishments. I guess it has in a way reminded me of why the government is not to be trusted. It doesn't matter if there is an R or a D behind there name.
I do remember Kamela et other bucking the vaccines initially because Trump 😂 but then they championed it after Biden got into office lol.. but politicians are also not regular people lol they are all worse
 
I don't understand how this is a political issue. It seems like if it truly was political it would be the people who voted for Trump that would be touting the vaccines and the left would be saying it's garbage. Apparently Trump still touts the vaccine as one of his big accomplishments. I guess it has in a way reminded me of why the government is not to be trusted. It doesn't matter if there is an R or a D behind there name.
It's political in here, and every day life. If you didn't take this one particular vaccine, then you're a right wing, anti vax trumper. If you did take it, you're a lefty sheep. My family didn't take it, my wife had 3 different Drs tell her not to because of her health, and we have people who think we're anti vax. Doesn't matter if we've had every other vaccine, we didn't thus one, so we're "anti vax and anti science " now. Look at the conversation in this entire thread, it's one side vs the other, over one shot, not vaccines in general. Watch the news, any time they're talking about it, it's right vs left. I'm dead against forcing it, but I don't believe everyone who took it is a sheep. I know people who were legit afraid, and thought it would stop it. While it's just my opinion, it's still fairly obvious how so many are making it a political thing. Mojo was called a right winger because his daughter wasn't vaxed, against this one thing. We got people in here celebrating trumpers dying, saying keep up the good work. We got people celebrating when someone vaccinated dies. It's become very sad to me.
 
I do remember Kamela et other bucking the vaccines initially because Trump 😂 but then they championed it after Biden got into office lol.. but politicians are also not regular people lol they are all worse
I remember that as well. Same politicians completely swapped their view because of who was president, there were several on both sides.
 
I remember that as well. Same politicians completely swapped their view because of who was president, there were several on both sides.
Yeah, you had to keep your head on a swivel, why anyone would listen to a bunch of lawyers regarding their health is beyond me.. my own internal medicine doctor also kind of walked back his initial take.. part of it could have been because everyone did just not know what the he!! to do
 
Yeah, you had to keep your head on a swivel, why anyone would listen to a bunch of lawyers regarding their health is beyond me.. my own internal medicine doctor also kind of walked back his initial take.. part of it could have been because everyone did just not know what the he!! to do
Agree. Initially I believe the majority sincerely felt what they felt. It didn't take long for political views to sway opinion though.
 
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Agree. Initially I believe the majority sincerely felt what they felt. It didn't take long for political views to sway opinion though.
I personally got the J and J when I was eligible because I was around a lot of Covid at my job and my Mom pestered me to death 😂 and then I got Covid 3 months later, and then I got ‘breakthrough Covid’ with my husband after I got the second J and J as a booster 😂 iI think that was nine months later because he had CVAs in May
 
I personally got the J and J when I was eligible because I was around a lot of Covid at my job and my Mom pestered me to death 😂 and then I got Covid 3 months later, and then I got ‘breakthrough Covid’ with my husband after I got the second J and J as a booster 😂 iI think that was nine months later because he had CVAs in May
Silly to some, but I thank God first, I've been around it, but ironically I haven't gotten so much as a cold since this started. I just don't feel safe taking something that may be risky for me, to protect me against something that hasn't bothered me. That's just my personal stance on it. Only person in our family that got it was my wife. She was in the hospital with sepsis, zero visiting, and they tested her every day. The 9th night she tested positive, and they sent her home the next morning. That bothered me, she was septic, and they kept her until she tested positive. I asked them if it was so bad, then why send her home with sepsis and covid. Thankfully it barely bothered her, just a cough that homemade medicine took care of. I'm just a believer in a person making their own health choices, not the government.
 
I’m not anti vaccine. I just don’t want to be one of the guinea pigs.
I feel like with time, they'll make a safer vaccine. I was in no hurry to take something rushed, myself, that scared me about it.
 
It's political in here, and every day life. If you didn't take this one particular vaccine, then you're a right wing, anti vax trumper. If you did take it, you're a lefty sheep. My family didn't take it, my wife had 3 different Drs tell her not to because of her health, and we have people who think we're anti vax. Doesn't matter if we've had every other vaccine, we didn't thus one, so we're "anti vax and anti science " now. Look at the conversation in this entire thread, it's one side vs the other, over one shot, not vaccines in general. Watch the news, any time they're talking about it, it's right vs left. I'm dead against forcing it, but I don't believe everyone who took it is a sheep. I know people who were legit afraid, and thought it would stop it. While it's just my opinion, it's still fairly obvious how so many are making it a political thing. Mojo was called a right winger because his daughter wasn't vaxed, against this one thing. We got people in here celebrating trumpers dying, saying keep up the good work. We got people celebrating when someone vaccinated dies. It's become very sad to me.


I'm just saying it's not political for me at all. Much like your experience, I simply do not feel like I need it at all. I do take Vitamin D,C, zinc and Quercetin daily.
 
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I feel like with time, they'll make a safer vaccine. I was in no hurry to take something rushed, myself, that scared me about it.
Do you wonder why we don't have vaccines for other common coronaviruses, rhinovirus, enteroviruses, etc?

It's simply not practical or possible to vaccinate-away readily-mutating respiratory viruses. If they don't pose significant risk, the money, effort, and adverse vaccine effects outweigh the benefit (to the population).

Now, the benefit of vaccine manufacturers? Whole different story. What better scenario could they find themselves in than a panicked, misled society that has been coerced into submission, while you have the only accepted "cure" for a constantly-changing pathogen, and the government is willing to continually pay for your "vaccine?"
 
Interestingly, I have seen more pushback on routine vaccines after all the BS from the past 3 years. I would say this was an unforeseen repercussion of making up Science and changing it every few months. There is definitely more of a general distrust in medicine and vaccines, and that is not just coming from my personal experience, but also from practitioners and medical staff from around the country.

Figures. If smallpox ever reared it's terrible head again then a lot of people would change their minds. It kinda sucks. We have real, PROVEN vaccines for some things, but now, with the obvious and failure of this experimental so called "vaccine" real vaccines are now viewed with more suspicion. I guess it really doesn't matter to those who made their fortune churning out the COVID horse poo jabs though.
 
Figures. If smallpox ever reared it's terrible head again then a lot of people would change their minds. It kinda sucks. We have real, PROVEN vaccines for some things, but now, with the obvious and failure of this experimental so called "vaccine" real vaccines are now viewed with more suspicion. I guess it really doesn't matter to those who made their fortune churning out the COVID horse poo jabs though.

Most people could easily live with a failed vaccine. It was the constant lies and half truths being told by the CDC, politicians, and the venerable Dr. Fauci that has made people skeptical. While I’m not in the anti vax camp, I likely won’t trust the CDC again for the rest of my days.
 
Do you wonder why we don't have vaccines for other common coronaviruses, rhinovirus, enteroviruses, etc?

It's simply not practical or possible to vaccinate-away readily-mutating respiratory viruses. If they don't pose significant risk, the money, effort, and adverse vaccine effects outweigh the benefit (to the population).

Now, the benefit of vaccine manufacturers? Whole different story. What better scenario could they find themselves in than a panicked, misled society that has been coerced into submission, while you have the only accepted "cure" for a constantly-changing pathogen, and the government is willing to continually pay for your "vaccine?"
I get that part of it.
 

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