Vice Presidential Debate 2020

Trump uses Lincoln as a reference all the time. I didn't know that it isn't allowed to use him to defend a position that's opposite of that of the GOP or Trump. Oh, and using historical context is wrong too now...screw it if it happened in the civil war days, right? You'll have to forgive me if I'm having to do a lot of catching up on how to defend Trump. There's a lot of mental gymnastics involved, but I'm sure I can get up to speed if I hang around here a little more.
I don't care about defending Trump and in really don't care about what Lincoln did to the USSC over 150yrs ago when there is more recent precedent. If you're forced to go back that far to make your point then your argument may not be very strong
 
It was just habeas corpus that lincoln suspended throughout. It wasnt until 1866 that it was opened back up. I was thinking that was the courts.

Lincoln didnt actually stop the courts, he just refused to listen to them or act on any of what they said. So not shot down, just ignored.

I think you are correct. Lincoln decided he didn't have to abide by court rulings he didn't like.
 
Here ya go! Go educate your azz... again. You too @utvols83 . Only once in the history of our nation did an opposing party Senate confirm a nominee. In all this has happened 29 times and in all 29 cases a nomination was made. It’s silly to cherry pick a singular instance as defining process while ignoring the other 28 cases.

Lol indeed 😂

History shows how SCOTUS nominations play out in election years
I'm plenty educated on the subject. There wouldn't be a solid argument to make against the nomination had many in the GOP not made the argument against Garland's nomination solely on the basis of it being an election year. They opened that door, otherwise historical context would be the only thing to consider. You can ignore it, but the fact is that it makes them look like massive hypocrites. Be mad at them that the argument is even being made. I just think it's funny when politicians are so clearly hypocritical yet some defend them tooth and nail.
 
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I think you are correct. Lincoln decided he didn't have to abide by court rulings he didn't like.
I had to look it up. Lincoln and Taney were constantly butting heads issuing writs at each other. But lincoln just ignored any of it he didnt like.
 
Elections are a boon for gun and ammo manufacturers.

Every cycle the "they're comin' fer ur gunz" narrative gets trotted out and every cycle, we still have the gunz. The only winners seem to be the gun lobby and manufacturers.
Obama and his loonies have been the greatest gun and ammo salespersons in history
 
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You cherry picked the singular example of it happening in 29 instances of election year nominations while ignoring the other 28. And you’re getting rightly roasted for the cherry picking.
I'm getting roasted for stating something that's factual. You admit I'm right...that it has happened. I only mentioned it because it was stated that it had never happened. I'm definitely not seeing good reasoning for "roasting" me here other than a disdain for facts...which kind of makes sense.
 
I don't care about defending Trump and in really don't care about what Lincoln did to the USSC over 150yrs ago when there is more recent precedent. If you're forced to go back that far to make your point then your argument may not be very strong
The problem is that you're trying to assert that I'm making an argument other than simply stating that it has happened before.
 
I'm plenty educated on the subject. There wouldn't be a solid argument to make against the nomination had many in the GOP not made the argument against Garland's nomination solely on the basis of it being an election year. They opened that door, otherwise historical context would be the only thing to consider. You can ignore it, but the fact is that it makes them look like massive hypocrites. Be mad at them that the argument is even being made. I just think it's funny when politicians are so clearly hypocritical yet some defend them tooth and nail.
There still isn’t a solid argument to make now. And history clearly supports my statement.

But you’re sure trying to sell the narrative that’s clear!
 
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I'm getting roasted for stating something that's factual. You admit I'm right...that it has happened. I only mentioned it because it was stated that it had never happened. I'm definitely not seeing good reasoning for "roasting" me here other than a disdain for facts...which kind of makes sense.
Correct. I am roasting you for cherry picking one out of twenty nine instances and pushing it as the norm. I don’t know who said “it’s never happened” I clearly said it hasn’t happened since the early 1900’s and since you replied to me I’ll assume you are wrong on that assertion.
 
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Lincoln had a Republican led Senate and still held off on nominating a new justice until after he was reelected...so it has happened. Lincoln also had a 10th justice added and appointed 5 justices in four years, so there's also some history of packing the court. The GOP is being a bit hypocritical, but that's politics.
No he didn’t, you and Kameltoe need a history lesson. The Senate was on break a month before election. When they returned on day 1, he made his nomination that very day and was installed and sworn the same day.
 
That’s why the fly was waiting on Pence’s head so he could pounce on K’am’la at the right time.
Flies usually are born around rank stuff used for food until they hatch. I'm guessing this one came from Kamala. The poor fly was probably just trying to catch his breath.
 
He did a good job on the early Continentals.

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I'm plenty educated on the subject. There wouldn't be a solid argument to make against the nomination had many in the GOP not made the argument against Garland's nomination solely on the basis of it being an election year. They opened that door, otherwise historical context would be the only thing to consider. You can ignore it, but the fact is that it makes them look like massive hypocrites. Be mad at them that the argument is even being made. I just think it's funny when politicians are so clearly hypocritical yet some defend them tooth and nail.
All politicians are hypocrites..... just go online and you will see numerous opposite views in just a few minutes
 
Obama and his loonies have been the greatest gun and ammo salespersons in history

Nah, it's people like you who continue to get suckered into buying the narrative that somehow the SCOTUS is suddenly going to amend the constitution because a president wants it. No offense, but it's not Obama - it's the narrative that Obama is coming for em', happens every cycle - it never sniffs a floor vote, let alone a Constitutional challenge in the SC.

Like I said, the gun and ammo industry absolutely licks their chops at the prospect of a big mouthed democrat who pops off about gun control. The industry knows that the lobbyists' and gun loving politicians are going to make political hay with that wedge issue to literally scare up support and with the fear, sales.
 
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Trump on el Foxo Newso today. Seems he's still on his delirious roid rage.

You Trumpsters might as well vote for Tyrone Biggums.

"She's [Harris] a communist. She's not a socialist, she's well beyond a socialist," he said, going on to make false, fear-mongering claims that Harris wants to "open up the borders to allow killers and murderers and rapists to pour into our country."

He twice called Harris, the first woman of color on a major party ticket, a "monster."

By comparison, Trump portrayed himself a picture of health, even though he is the candidate who last week struggled to breathe and required supplemental oxygen.

"I'm back because I am a perfect physical specimen and I'm extremely young. And so I'm lucky in that way,"

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Also, of note, seems Donald has a Doppledanger... in all places, MEXICO!

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