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#126
etmccreary said:
I do not know Burke personally (but have played with/against some that did), and my dealings with Lawson are limited to being recruited by him and a couple of conversations in college after he had moved into scouting. But I do agree that it is very odd that so many are dead-set on hiring a former player with no HC experience.
At the first college I attended, a former player with no HC experience was hired when the head coach moved into the AD role (this facilitated my transfer to another school). While the coach in question went straight from the minors to our pitching coach the year I was there, this FAR from qualified him to be HC. Needless to say, he tanked and was fired after only 2 or 3 seasons.
I'm not saying that Burke has no chance to be successful, but it would go against the norm for someone without HC experience to come in and do well in the SEC. Regardless of what polls may say, in my mind, the ideal candidate would have to be Dave Serrano.
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Without naming names, was Lawson a good recruiter compared to others with whom you had contact? Seems like that may be his best asset. And thanks for the info. GBO!
 
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#129
vol66 said:
Without naming names, was Lawson a good recruiter compared to others with whom you had contact? Seems like that may be his best asset. And thanks for the info. GBO!
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Different coaches have different approaches, many times dictated by what their school/program has to offer. He struck me as an intense guy who wanted to both win and offer players a chance to get drafted.
I can't really say he was a specific number on a 1-10 scale of recruiting ability, but I will say that he was not one of the reasons that I chose to go elsewhere.
 
#133
#133
Gray0501 said:
UT could certainly post the job and not require a 4 yr degree ( I would think) but if they do post it and require a degree Serrano may not be the man.

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The state of Oregon actually has a law on the books forbidding the use of academic credentials from unaccredited institutions as a basis for employment, with the only exceptions being a handful of theological schools.

Serrano actually still claims that bogus degree on his bio, which is not something I can respect.
 
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#134
jsc1973 said:
The state of Oregon actually has a law on the books forbidding the use of academic credentials from unaccredited institutions as a basis for employment, with the only exceptions being a handful of theological schools.

Serrano actually still claims that bogus degree on his bio, which is not something I can respect.
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It seems to me, with Serrano, the biggest stumbling block would be that he's currently the HC of CSF. He doesn't recruit, he reloads. It's a baseball powerhouse.

I would think that if he wants to come compete in the SEC, some smart, creative individuals could sit down in a room and come up with a solution to this issue of a degree. JMO
 
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#135
JB at scout put three names out in the public forum he says he's hearing: Serrano, McDonnall and Greg Evans OU Asst.
 
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#140
I saw a strange one that I hadn't seen anywhere else. well not strange...Larry Simcox. I thought he just went along with Delmonico, but he's opened up an instructional facility in Knoxville.
 
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#141
etmccreary said:
I always felt it was an odd career move, as I was under the impression that Lawson was fairly well regarded in the scouting industry. I think this particular situation was the main reason he took the assistant coaching job in the first place- the writing was on the wall in regards to Raleigh, and he wanted a chance to run an SEC program.

I know some on this board really, REALLY do not like Coach Lawson, so please do not take this as me lobbying for him to be named the next head baseball coach at UT, it's just some speculation on the situation. Go Vols
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No opinion on Lawson, other than the obvious. Leaving a job for a sinking ship was a strange move. When you have a program sink as low as this one, IMO, you really need to just clean house entirely. The kids need new and different faces coaching them. They need a fresh start and a fresh approach. Hamilton has lost a potential hire in the past in another sport, by pushing them to keep a current assistant. I hope the new hire is firm and only keeps Lawson (or any other ass't) because they are the best person for the job.
 
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#142
Gray0501 said:
Nebraska is open too. Could Bell, Evans and Serrano be candidates there too? Murphy? etc...

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Tennessee is a far better job than Nebraska. The Huskers caught lightning in a bottle in the early oughts and will never see that level consistently. The weather sucks too bad.

Wichita State had trouble staying at their level.

Nebraska's move to Big10(12) from Big12(10) will only hurt their consistency further.
 
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#143
fryeguy93 said:
Tennessee is a far better job than Nebraska. The Huskers caught lightning in a bottle in the early oughts and will never see that level consistently. The weather sucks too bad.

Wichita State had trouble staying at their level.

Nebraska's move to Big10(12) from Big12(10) will only hurt their consistency further.
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Poll from 2010.....Top 10 College Baseball Facilities.....yes the weather is brutal......
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Base salary of near 230K.......does not include (i assume) other pay.....shoes, bat, radio, speaking etc.....better job than you think...IMO....
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I just thought it would be interesting to ponder the effect of that job on others that were mentioned for the UT job.....particularly guys in that part of the country.....

I read on Nebraska forums that they like O'Conner from UVA......Childress at Tx A&M........Sawyers.......to name a few....

did not see any mention of Bell, Serrano, Evans for that job on their boards......
 
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Gray0501 said:
Poll from 2010.....Top 10 College Baseball Facilities.....yes the weather is brutal......
10 Best College Baseball Facilities | Made Manual

Base salary of near 230K.......does not include (i assume) other pay.....shoes, bat, radio, speaking etc.....better job than you think...IMO....
News from The Associated Press

I just thought it would be interesting to ponder the effect of that job on others that were mentioned for the UT job.....particularly guys in that part of the country.....

I read on Nebraska forums that they like O'Conner from UVA......Childress at Tx A&M........Sawyers.......to name a few....

did not see any mention of Bell, Serrano, Evans for that job on their boards......
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Keep in mind that Nebraska shares stadium (like Arkansas) with minor league team. I don't believe they could have built without that support.

I'm not sure how attendance is holding up the further the program gets from Van Horn days.

The Big10 really is a bad baseball league and I don't see the fans clamoring for Minnesota like they do for Texas or Oklahoma.

The Big10 move was good for football and basketball but will kill their baseball program.
 
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#146
fryeguy93 said:
Keep in mind that Nebraska shares stadium (like Arkansas) with minor league team. I don't believe they could have built without that support.

I'm not sure how attendance is holding up the further the program gets from Van Horn days.

The Big10 really is a bad baseball league and I don't see the fans clamoring for Minnesota like they do for Texas or Oklahoma.

The Big10 move was good for football and basketball but will kill their baseball program.
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Arkansas does not share Baum Stadium with anyone. That stadium is a testament to the support of Razorback baseball.
 
#147
#147
Hobock said:
Sounds like you get it. Even approaching a guy like Murphy would be stupid. Hammy just fired a guy that was cleaner than Murphy.
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Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Murphy committed compliance violations, how is that even close to what Pearl is accused of doing? Seriously, read the Arizona State infractions report. It's all minor ticky tack stuff that they added together to call major violations. The telephone call rule they threw the book at him for doesn't even exist anymore.

Arizona State is facing a post season ban for a second lack of institutional control in the past 5 years based on inadequate compliance procedures within the athletic department. The first lack of institutional control involved the football program, so the severity of Arizona State's penalties has to do with inadequate compliance.

Murphy can't make recruiting calls until Dec. 15, 2011. That's all he got. Look it up. Furthermore, Notre Dame just named their baseball locker room after Murphy. Based on Notre Dame's reputation, I'm guessing they did a pretty extensive investigation into Murphy's NCAA background prior to permanently associating themselves with him. Notre Dame obviously doesn't have a problem with it.
 
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#148
Chicago said:
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Murphy committed compliance violations, how is that even close to what Pearl is accused of doing? Seriously, read the Arizona State infractions report. It's all minor ticky tack stuff that they added together to call major violations. The telephone call rule they threw the book at him for doesn't even exist anymore.

Arizona State is facing a post season ban for a second lack of institutional control in the past 5 years based on inadequate compliance procedures within the athletic department. The first lack of institutional control involved the football program, so the severity of Arizona State's penalties has to do with inadequate compliance.

Murphy can't make recruiting calls until Dec. 15, 2011. That's all he got. Look it up. Furthermore, Notre Dame just named their baseball locker room after Murphy. Based on Notre Dame's reputation, I'm guessing they did a pretty extensive investigation into Murphy's NCAA background prior to permanently associating themselves with him. Notre Dame obviously doesn't have a problem with it.
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My statement was made for effect, Mrs. Murphy. Murphy got a taste of the NCAA's Rico Laws. He's dirty, plain and simple.

Notre Dame's bylaws mandate an Irish name be put on their facilities. You're right ND is a pillar of integrity.
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#149
#149
Hobock said:
My statement was made for effect, Mrs. Murphy. Murphy got a taste of the NCAA's Rico Laws. He's dirty, plain and simple.

Notre Dame's bylaws mandate an Irish name be put on their facilities. You're right ND is a pillar of integrity.
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Damn, Hobock. That's some Pat Murphy hatred.
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