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vol66 said:
Wilkerson said on the radio after listing all the possible former Vol candidates, and I'm paraphrasing here...it's hard to get past the name Serrano to look at other candidates, he's taken two teams to the CWS.
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He's right.
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Hobock said:
That's strong.
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Yep. I gotta say I'm impressed with the way Burkes gotten his name in the mix. I don't think he takes no for an answer, which would be a plus recruiting.:)
 
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vol66 said:
Wilkerson said on the radio after listing all the possible former Vol candidates, and I'm paraphrasing here...it's hard to get past the name Serrano to look at other candidates, he's taken two teams to the CWS.
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To illustrate the depth of that experience, Serrano completely built a program at Irvine and took over a powerhouse program at Fullerton.

Surely Tennessee would fit somewhere between those two examples.

I'm not telling anyone how to think, but if Serrano is not a Vol fan's number one choice, then I have to question that naysayers knowledge about the college game.

The diploma problem is what's making this tough. But the diploma problem is what even puts Tennessee in the running. Had it not been for that, Dave would have been in a high-paying job already. (see Oregon)
 
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As a former player I can say with absolute clarity that Lawson is NOT the answer!! No consideration whatsoever. As for Burke, great former player with absolutely ZERO experience. We are not a proving ground. Get some coaching experience, recruiting experience and then go for an SEC job. Top candidates are easy: Serrano, Murphy & McConnell. Period. Done.
 
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fryeguy93 said:
To illustrate the depth of that experience, Serrano completely built a program at Irvine and took over a powerhouse program at Fullerton.

Surely Tennessee would fit somewhere between those two examples.

I'm not telling anyone how to think, but if Serrano is not a Vol fan's number one choice, then I have to question that naysayers knowledge about the college game.

The diploma problem is what's making this tough. But the diploma problem is what even puts Tennessee in the running. Had it not been for that, Dave would have been in a high-paying job already. (see Oregon)
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The diploma problem is bullshiz.
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If an athletic department facing the NCAA firing squad hires Pat Murphy, they deserve to get an across the board death penalty for abject stupidity.
 
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hatvol96 said:
If an athletic department facing the NCAA firing squad hires Pat Murphy, they deserve to get an across the board death penalty for abject stupidity.
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It would not be a good move at this time, I'll give you that. Any other time he's in my top three calls.
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I wonder who Chris Burke would hire as Asst's?

Anyone getting any word on that? I think I saw it on this board that he already has a prospective staff should he get hired.

Seems that if there are some that have posted that he is so interested and potentially stepped on toes in doing so, then they might know who he would plan on bringing with him.

Recruiting is the name of the game! Doesn't have a ton to do with how good of teacher/instructor you are. You have to sign good players/people/citizens/students.
 
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Gray0501 said:
I wonder who Chris Burke would hire as Asst's?

Anyone getting any word on that? I think I saw it on this board that he already has a prospective staff should he get hired.

Seems that if there are some that have posted that he is so interested and potentially stepped on toes in doing so, then they might know who he would plan on bringing with him.

Recruiting is the name of the game! Doesn't have a ton to do with how good of teacher/instructor you are. You have to sign good players/people/citizens/students.
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I haven't seen any specific names. From listening to various interviews with former players, I get the impression that he has a plan. If he were to get an interview, he could lay it all out. That's just pure speculation on my part.
 
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vol66 said:
I haven't seen any specific names. From listening to various interviews with former players, I get the impression that he has a plan. If he were to get an interview, he could lay it all out. That's just pure speculation on my part.
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Thank you
 
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I have a question. Yesterday I posted that Hyams made a point of saying there were no documents, no papers were signed. Some guy called in to his show and started asking about another show, where the guy heard Raleigh wanted more money. Then he started talking about Raleigh's house and UT needing to do the right thing. In fairness to the caller, he said he didn't know about the house or whatever it was that the extra money was for. Hyams then made a strange comment, muttered if you will, I couldn't make it out about something that happened while he was coach...and it was done.

I think Hyams also said something like he (Raleigh) may accept it, I think it will be more.

What is this all about?
 
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Vol66 you have written some great posts but you are off by a good bit on the money.

Serrano at UT for 450k base is very doable.

He could also work on his degree while he is here.

Some of the coaches have been working out with their players, it would be awesome for Serrano to take some classes with them.
 
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vol66 said:
I have a question. Yesterday I posted that Hyams made a point of saying there were no documents, no papers were signed. Some guy called in to his show and started asking about another show, where the guy heard Raleigh wanted more money. Then he started talking about Raleigh's house and UT needing to do the right thing. In fairness to the caller, he said he didn't know about the house or whatever it was that the extra money was for. Hyams then made a strange comment, muttered if you will, I couldn't make it out about something that happened while he was coach...and it was done.

I think Hyams also said something like he (Raleigh) may accept it, I think it will be more.

What is this all about?
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There is speculation that Raleigh is seeking to blackmail UT for more money than his final year of his contract. Nothing concrete yet. Would make sense that it has to do with information that UT dearly wants to avoid leaking.
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Vol66 you have written some great posts but you are off by a good bit on the money.

Serrano at UT for 450k base is very doable.

He could also work on his degree while he is here.

Some of the coaches have been working out with their players, it would be awesome for Serrano to take some classes with them.
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I made a bad post, obviously. I don't think McDonnell leaves Louisville for 450K, infact if that was the first offer, he might be turned off completely. I lumped Serrano and Holbrook into the same post, which was my mistake. I think Serrano might come for less money, because I'm assuming two things. His Salary is half what McDonnells is, and there's no way CSF can match us in a bidding war. Both of those schools will try to keep those coaches and that means they both get a bump. That's why my salary thoughts, as they pertain to Louisville and McConnell are so high. Sorry for the confusion.

And if I might add, we're also going to pay for those guys to leave great situations, because being at the bottom of the SEC East is not an incentive alone. We've got nice facilities, and the grade issues are fine, but the roster is really thin and we're in the best division in the best conference. We've got the money, whatever it may be, let's use it.
 
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NYYVol said:
The diploma problem is bullshiz.
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The fact Serrano keeps trying to pass off a "degree" he picked up off the floor of a Carl's Jr. bathroom as legit tell me loads about the guy. He's made no effort to rectify the problem. Sounds to me like he's happy running a quasi minor league team at a glorified communtity college. I say let him stay right there.
 
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Hatvol you publicly lobbied for Burke...Please sit down until you know something about baseball. You are like the people who wanted Kippy as head football coach.

66, Serrano will be cheaper because of the degree thing.

Kind of funny that Fred White took my two suggestions from two weeks ago and offered them as new.

Travis Haney is a UT grad. He still has Daily Beacon articles available online.

I think of all the options I like
1. Serrano
2. Holbrook.

I think it would take 650 minimum to get Louisville's coach.

Here is something that many people seem to not understand.

Hamilton knows who cares about baseball. There are cranks he has never heard of, and then there are people who he knows the name of their dog and when they had their hip replaced because of how much $$$ they give to UT. If we get Louisville's coach he will bring in great classes and we will get the $10 million raised to make the baseball stadium sparkle.

The deal with baseball is that it is a money loser. 10 boosters who care could give 20k each a year and it would make up the difference needed to get the better coach.

Hamilton will do the math.
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Here is something that many people seem to not understand.

Hamilton knows who cares about baseball. There are cranks he has never heard of, and then there are people who he knows the name of their dog and when they had their hip replaced because of how much $$$ they give to UT. If we get Louisville's coach he will bring in great classes and we will get the $10 million raised to make the baseball stadium sparkle.

The deal with baseball is that it is a money loser. 10 boosters who care could give 20k each a year and it would make up the difference needed to get the better coach.

Hamilton will do the math.
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If he knew who cared about baseball then I wouldn't have spent three hours of my life listening to former players explaining that they feel exiled from the program.

MLB players have money, I'd think you and your name sake would know that already. I don't underestimate Hamilton's knowledge of baseball. He seems quite familiar with the "squeeze". He's been doing it to the fans since he got here.
 
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hatvol96 said:
The fact Serrano keeps trying to pass off a "degree" he picked up off the floor of a Carl's Jr. bathroom as legit tell me loads about the guy. He's made no effort to rectify the problem. Sounds to me like he's happy running a quasi minor league team at a glorified communtity college. I say let him stay right there.
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I agree that it's shady and juvenile. But the guy could get this program back on its feet. And probably rather quick.
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vol66 said:
If he knew who cared about baseball then I wouldn't have spent three hours of my life listening to former players explaining that they feel exiled from the program.

MLB players have money, I'd think you and your name sake would know that already. I don't underestimate Hamilton's knowledge of baseball. He seems quite familiar with the "squeeze". He's been doing it to the fans since he got here.
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Luke Hudson made 1.4 million in his career in MLB.

Chris Burke made about 2 million.

Augie Ojeda made about 2.5 million.

Luke Hochevar has made 3.4 so far (he should make lots more)

Bubba Trammell made about 4 million.

Mike Lincoln about 5 million.

RA Dickey made about 4 million in his first 10 years, and will make about 3 million more next year.

Todd Helton has made BY FAR the most
at almost $140 million dollars.

He knows Hamilton and Hamilton has been very careful to listen to him. I GUARANTEE you that he feels he has Hamiltons ear whenever he wants it. When the satellite meetings happen in CO, Todd gets to meet Hamilton if he desires it.

The other guys all can also get Hamilton to take their call, except Chris B who may currently find it hard to get Mike to call back because of his overbearing pursuit.
Was really nice of Garner to endorse him, but friendship does not mean enough at this point to try another unproven guy.

I would love for Chris to be on the staff of the new guy, if the new guy is amenable to it.
 
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NYYVol said:
I agree that it's shady and juvenile. But the guy could get this program back on its feet. And probably rather quick.
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Jim Harrick would have loaded the talent coffers. Doesn't mean he has any business coaching college basketball. It's still a university.
 
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