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#201
MikeHamiltonFan said:
Luke Hudson made 1.4 million in his career in MLB.

Chris Burke made about 2 million.

Augie Ojeda made about 2.5 million.

Luke Hochevar has made 3.4 so far (he should make lots more)

Bubba Trammell made about 4 million.

Mike Lincoln about 5 million.

RA Dickey made about 4 million in his first 10 years, and will make about 3 million more next year.

Todd Helton has made BY FAR the most
at almost $140 million dollars.

He knows Hamilton and Hamilton has been very careful to listen to him. I GUARANTEE you that he feels he has Hamiltons ear whenever he wants it. When the satellite meetings happen in CO, Todd gets to meet Hamilton if he desires it.

The other guys all can also get Hamilton to take their call, except Chris B who may currently find it hard to get Mike to call back because of his overbearing pursuit.
Was really nice of Garner to endorse him, but friendship does not mean enough at this point to try another unproven guy.

I would love for Chris to be on the staff of the new guy, if the new guy is amenable to it.
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You have to make hundreds of millions of dollars to be invited back for the alumni game, where the fans might show up to see them play. Thanks for clearing it up. I feel so much better.

Forgot JP, Chase and Borbon and all the old guys the players and people would like to see out at the park on special occasions.
 
#202
#202
hatvol96 said:
Jim Harrick would have loaded the talent coffers. Doesn't mean he has any business coaching college basketball. It's still a university.
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Valid point. But at the end of the day we're hiring a baseball coach. Go get a damn good one. Dave is a damn good one.
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vol66 said:
You have to make hundreds of millions of dollars to be invited back for the alumni game, where the fans might show up to see them play. Thanks for clearing it up. I feel so much better.

Forgot JP, Chase and Borbon and all the old guys the players and people would like to see out at the park on special occasions.
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Todd Raleigh sucks.

I am not defending him.

I am saying that anyone who thinks that there are rich alums connected to baseball however tangentially who Hamilton is not in communication with are kidding themselves.

The guys I listed will all be invited to help with the revitalized Tennessee baseball program.
 
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Tennessee baseball is about to become relevant again is a quote from Mike Hamilton.

Imagine you have a football team. It has a total of 50 scholarships. No one wants to coach there. It has 4 years it will be on probation. You hire a sucky coach, but you keep improving facilities. Now you have all your 85 scholarships restored and a nicely upgraded stadium to play in as well as a new practice facility...

See why this is a different era? Hamilton haters are going to be sad about this hire.
 
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NYYVol said:
Valid point. But at the end of the day we're hiring a baseball coach. Go get a damn good one. Dave is a damn good one.
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I'm pretty sure there are more than a couple of damn good baseball coaches out there who have legitimate college degrees.
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hatvol96 said:
The fact Serrano keeps trying to pass off a "degree" he picked up off the floor of a Carl's Jr. bathroom as legit tell me loads about the guy. He's made no effort to rectify the problem. Sounds to me like he's happy running a quasi minor league team at a glorified communtity college. I say let him stay right there.
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That glorified community college is perhaps the most consistent program in all of the country outside of Texas and that's only because Texas bought Augie. Don't rattle off ignorant statements if you can help it Hat.
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#208
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Hatvol

Yes to Chris Burke

No to Serrano.

Thanks for your insight into college baseball.

Are you the one who told Scotty Hopson he was a lock for the first round? Do you believe the world is flat?
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
That glorified community college is perhaps the most consistent program in all of the country outside of Texas and that's only because Texas bought Augie. Don't rattle off ignorant statementa if you can help it Hat.
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I guess you're not intelligent enough to realize that was a shot at their academics. I would have assumed anyone with an IQ above room temp would have figured out the "quasi minor league" comment was directed at the quality of play there.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I guess you're not intelligent enough to realize that was a shot at their academics. I would have assumed anyone with an IQ above room temp would have figured out the "quasi minor league" comment was directed at the quality of play there.
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No one is concerned or thinking about academics in a baseball discussion. And most couldn't give two ****s if the institution is a bastion of academic excellence or not. So in other words, it was just another chance for you to let off some negativity steam?
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hatvol96 said:
NYYVol said:
Valid point. But at the end of the day we're hiring a baseball coach. Go get a damn good one. Dave is a damn good one.
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I'm pretty sure there are more than a couple of damn good baseball coaches out there who have legitimate college degrees.
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Would you feel the same if it were not your alma mater?
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bowlinggreenvol said:
No one is concerned or thinking about academics in a baseball discussion. And most couldn't give two ****s if the institution is a bastion of academic excellence or not. So in other words, it was just another chance for you to let off some negativity steam?
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I'll try dumb this down to a level you can grasp. Serrano is coaching at an idiot warehouse of a school, in a conference whose only academic requirement is a pulse. Try getting guys like that admitted in the SEC.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I'll try dumb this down to a level you can grasp. Serrano is coaching at an idiot warehouse of a school, in a conference whose only academic requirement is a pulse. Try getting guys like that admitted in the SEC.
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Which is my only concern with Serrano. Can he adapt here. He's got guys right now whose only other option is Walters State.
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hatvol96 said:
I'll try dumb this down to a level you can grasp. Serrano is coaching at an idiot warehouse of a school, in a conference whose only academic requirement is a pulse. Try getting guys like that admitted in the SEC.
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Are their admission standards really that far off?
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#218
Hobock said:
Are their admission standards really that far off?
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When talking about the rest of the Big West when UNLV was in the league, Tark used to say his guys were Rhodes Scholars compared to everybody else in the conference, save Pacific. That should tell you something. If a guy flunks out of or fails to gain admission to a PAC 10 school, you can be confident they can get a shot in the Big West.
 
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#220
Hobock said:
Are their admission standards really that far off?
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I look at it this way. Rich Rod looked like the second coming of Walter Camp when he was at West Virginia and could get anyone who presented an ID admitted. When he went to Michigan and had to recruit guys who actually met Big 10 academic standards, he looked like the second coming of Gerry Di Nardo.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I look at it this way. Rich Rod looked like the second coming of Walter Camp when he was at West Virginia and could get anyone who presented an ID admitted. When he went to Michigan and had to recruit guys who actually met Big 10 academic standards, he looked like the second coming of Gerry Di Nardo.
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Yeah, if you can spell your last name correctly, you get full academic at West Virginia.

You've given me a basketball and football reference without answering my question.

Solid...:)
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#222
#222
Hobock said:
Yeah, if you can spell your last name correctly, you get full academic at West Virginia.

You've given me a basketball and football reference without answering my question.

Solid...:)
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Alright. I bet if you ask Frank Cruz about the difference in the guys he could get admitted at Loyola Marymount under WCC standards compared to what he can recruit to USC under PAC 10 guidelines, he'd tell you his pool is much smaller now.
 
#223
#223
Hobock said:
Yeah, if you can spell your last name correctly, you get full academic at West Virginia.

You've given me a basketball and football reference without answering my question.

Solid...:)
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The conference standards would apply to all scholarship athletes.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Good point. It's not like losing scholarships for Delmonico's shameful APR performance helped bury the program.
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This is a true statement about hat that shows some insight into the important issues surrounding our baseball program...

Unfortunately, he wants us to hire Chris Burke.
 
#225
#225
hatvol96 said:
The conference standards would apply to all scholarship athletes.
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It's not worth me researching. Based on how emphatic you were, I thought you might have specifics. It's all good.

Baseball is no different than the other two. Recruiters know very early on how these kids are doing in the classroom. You also have to take chances on guys who might qualify late.
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