Vol uniform/helmet design discussion (merged)

[VOLINVONORE]

How did I get drug into this?

Don't worry about it DP. Everyone knows he is more nuttin than VOL.

 

[508mikey]

The official UT website offers a different story:

Our Palette | The University of Tennessee, Knoxville

Our Palette

Orange stands front and center in our audiences’ perception of UT, making color a crucial component for our visual communications. UT Orange, as we call our specific shade of orange, requires a special set of colors to accent and support it. Primarily, White and Smokey should always be used to underscore the boldness of UT Orange, invoking a sense of the pairing of our institution’s vibrant momentum and respect for tradition.

As you can see, both White and Smokey can be used to accent and support Orange, in order to better underscore the boldness of UT Orange. UT Orange would appear more bold than ever when placed on top of a Smokey colored helmet or jersey. You see how we are fooled into thinking that these official colors don't officially exist?

Notice how the UT baseball team wears black alternate jerseys:

And when they aren't wearing black jerseys, they are wearing black hats:

We are one single university... right? One Athletics Program...right? Either we can wear only orange and white, or we can can also incorporate other colors...right? And please don't give the "Football is different" reason. This is simple, UT has several accent colors available to use in conjunction with Orange. They should use them to spice things up.

Notice how they dont win very often ? My goodness its the uniform

 

[utvolpj]

The official UT website offers a different story:

Our Palette | The University of Tennessee, Knoxville

Our Palette

that's not for the AD. It has already been brought up many times in the thread

 

[ansleyr815]

that's not for the AD. It has already been brought up many times in the thread

Says who? Show me an official document or website that shows a seperate "Orange and White only" Athletic color scheme. If there is one...then many UT sports aren't following it. I took the time to include one.

Random unsubstantiated assumptions like this one is how we got to this point. Show me something official...and I regress. We should then focus on changing an out-dated "rule".

 

[bigeasy]

Notice how they dont win very often ? My goodness its the uniform

Please see the football record to nullify your point.

 

[ansleyr815]

CHICAGO (March 5, 2013) – U.S. Soccer and Nike have unveiled a new U.S. Men’s Soccer uniforms for the upcoming FIFA World Cup. Although the official colors for the United States of America are Red, White, and Blue...the newly designed uniforms are Red and White only. On a highly volatile media call, Head Coach Jurgen Klinsmann defended the decision to completely drop Blue from Team U.S.A.'s uniforms indefinitely. "I love the color Red, and I believe Blue just dillutes the power and intimidation symbolized by Red." When challenged by media members who believed the omission of Blue to be unpatriotic and insensative to all Americans, Klinsmann responded that "We plan to permanently remove Blue from all Team U.S.A. apparel. If we are successful in wearing only Red and White for at least 20 years, then it will become a tradition. Then, nobody will ever have the ability to bring Blue back."

:lolabove:

 

[Coach Grizz]

The only tradition that we have established in recent years is losing. We need to use everything at our disposal to add life back into our football program. Majors is gone, Fulmer is gone. This team and coach should be free to create their own identity.

I am a huge Denver Broncos fan. In 1997, we had been to 5 Superbowls in 20 years. That is 1 in every 4 Superbowls. You wanna talk "tradition"?... The Broncos had established a tradition... and had a Hall of Fame QB in John Elway. Their uniforms and logo were iconic. "The Drive"... "The Fumble"... "The Three Amigos"..."The Orange Crush"... "Mile High Stadium".

The problem? This great iconic franchise was 0-5 in their Superbowl appearances. While their tradition was built on winning AFC Championships... the Broncos had became synonomous with "Losing".

In 1997, Broncos owner Pat Bowlen bucked the conservative status quo, and angered many Broncos "traditionalists" by switching to a new uniform and helmet. The uniform was considered "radical" at the time. Bowlen even went as far as making the home jersey blue, which completely negated the iconic "Orange Crush" tradition.

But he believed in creating a new tradition and identity. Sometimes, something like a new uniform design can change the mindset of an entire organization.

The first year wearing the new uniforms... The Broncos went on the win their first Superbowl against the Packers in 1997. They continued by repeating as Superbowl champs against Atlanta in 1998. John Elway retired as a 2-time defending champion.

Did the uniforms win those superbowls? Of course not... but you will never convince me that they didn't play a big part in shaking off the past.

The "radical" uniform design became the most copied design by colleges and high schools the following 15 years.

In 2012, The Broncos returned to orange as their primary home jersey color while retaining the new uniform design...proving that a football program can still honor tradition, while creating new identities along the way.

Horse ****. Packers, steelers, Giants, Colts, all traditional uniforms Super Bowls in the past 10 years.

 

[Boca Vol]

Horse ****. Packers, steelers, Giants, Colts, all traditional uniforms Super Bowls in the past 10 years.

The Giants unis have changed in the last 25 years.

 

[utvolpj]

Says who? Show me an official document or website that shows a seperate "Orange and White only" Athletic color scheme. If there is one...then many UT sports aren't following it. I took the time to include one.

Random unsubstantiated assumptions like this one is how we got to this point. Show me something official...and I regress. We should then focus on changing an out-dated "rule".

unless the Office of Communications & Marketing now controls uniforms then it doesn't matter. That is used for marketing and promotional items and not sports colors

like I said, your link has been shown to be irrelevant to the uniform discussion. That came from people who have actually dealt with it over on campus

 

[Coach Grizz]

The Giants unis have changed in the last 25 years.

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The giants uniforms were worn in the 50's during the frank Gifford days

 

[Coach Grizz]

The Giants unis have changed in the last 25 years.

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The giants uniforms now were worn in the 50's during the frank Gifford days

 

[ansleyr815]

Horse ****. Packers, steelers, Giants, Colts, all traditional uniforms Super Bowls in the past 10 years.

The Giants wear Red alternate jerseys twice per year, and changed from "Giants" on their helmets to "NY" several years ago:

The Steelers wear Yellow helmets twice per year, and last year wore the infamous Jailbird uniforms:

The Colts have worn blue helmets:

The Packers wore these God-awful uniforms:

Checkmate

 

[jpope9]

The Giants wear Red alternate jerseys twice per year, and changed from "Giants" on their helmets to "NY" several years ago:

The Steelers wear Yellow helmets twice per year, and last year wore the infamous Jailbird uniforms:

The Colts have worn blue helmets:

The Packers wore these God-awful uniforms:

Checkmate

well done!

 

[GOATeric14berry]

The Giants wear Red alternate jerseys twice per year, and changed from "Giants" on their helmets to "NY" several years ago:

The Steelers wear Yellow helmets twice per year, and last year wore the infamous Jailbird uniforms:

The Colts have worn blue helmets:

The Packers wore these God-awful uniforms:

Checkmate

The traditionalist are getting there ass kicked with facts and I love it

 

[bigeasy]

I am sure the traditionalist will ask if they won in those games.

 

[brianlsanders]

The Giants wear Red alternate jerseys twice per year, and changed from "Giants" on their helmets to "NY" several years ago:

The Steelers wear Yellow helmets twice per year, and last year wore the infamous Jailbird uniforms:

The Colts have worn blue helmets:

The Packers wore these God-awful uniforms:

Checkmate

Weren't all these uniforms throwback jerseys and actually honoring tradition?

 

[RussVFL]

Weren't all these uniforms throwback jerseys and actually honoring tradition?

Like, oh I don't know...UT's black jerseys???

 

[ansleyr815]

Weren't all these uniforms throwback jerseys and actually honoring tradition?

Finally somebody took the bait!! LOL.

So you are saying the throwback uniforms were "traditional"? How on Earth did the teams change them then? :nono:

So we can't change UT's uniforms because of "tradition"? Yes...that is a corner you just backed into. :yess:

 

[brianlsanders]

Finally somebody took the bait!! LOL.

So you are saying the throwback uniforms were "traditional"? How on Earth did the teams change them then? :nono:

So we can't change UT's uniforms because of "tradition"? Yes...that is a corner you just backed into. :yess:

Hahahahaha! I was just asking a question. I'm all for mixing it up once or twice a year.

Nice job being a douche though. This thread always brings out the bottom feeders of VN.

 

[bleedorange0037]

The traditionalist are getting there ass kicked with facts and I love it

Yeah, and then we'll have the last laugh this fall when UT comes out each week in an appropriately colored uniform, just like they have (with one pathetic exception) every year in all of our lifetime's. Then we'll get to listen to you and your type whine for another year that UT's uniforms aren't flashy enough to win. Thankfully the people in charge over at UT have enough respect for the tradition that has been built over the years to not piss all over it by running the team out in some embarrassing monstrosity like everyone here promotes.

 

[GOATeric14berry]

Yeah, and then we'll have the last laugh this fall when UT comes out each week in an appropriately colored uniform, just like they have (with one pathetic exception) every year in all of our lifetime's. Then we'll get to listen to you and your type whine for another year that UT's uniforms aren't flashy enough to win. Thankfully the people in charge over at UT have enough respect for the tradition that has been built over the years to not piss all over it by running the team out in some embarrassing monstrosity like everyone here promotes.

So blacks not traditional even though the first uniforms had black in them...but red giants Jerseys are traditional...you can't have it both ways people.

 

[SkidsisVFL]

Yeah, and then we'll have the last laugh this fall when UT comes out each week in an appropriately colored uniform, just like they have (with one pathetic exception) every year in all of our lifetime's. Then we'll get to listen to you and your type whine for another year that UT's uniforms aren't flashy enough to win. Thankfully the people in charge over at UT have enough respect for the tradition that has been built over the years to not piss all over it by running the team out in some embarrassing monstrosity like everyone here promotes.

But the exception was a win over a ranked SEC opponent, which the orange jerseys haven't done since 2007...wouldn't exactly call that "pathetic"

 

[brianlsanders]

So blacks not traditional even though the first uniforms had black in them...but red giants Jerseys are traditional...you can't have it both ways people.

Apples and oranges. When UT wore black, many many other teams did as well. Once we went with orange in the twenties we never went back.

However, red was a main color for the Giants from their inception and was used regularly up until the 50s.

 

[GOATeric14berry]

Apples and oranges. When UT wore black, many many other teams did as well. Once we went with orange in the twenties we never went back.

However, red was a main color for the Giants from their inception and was used regularly up until the 50s.

Show me them other teams because everyone I saw back then used white....so prove it

 

[bleedorange0037]

Show me them other teams because everyone I saw back then used white....so prove it

Perhaps you would like to humor us by naming one UT great from the pre-1920 era that you are hoping to honor by wearing non-school colors.