Wacko Marjorie Green embraced by Trump, GOP leaders

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Rasputin_Vol said:
One more time... the govt is on record as saying that they are working with private companies to limit certain types of speech. That is a backdoor violation of the 1st Amendment. The govt is not directly limiting free speech, but are instead using an intermediary to do their dirty work for them.
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That's called influence, and like it or not, there is nothing illegal about it. The buying and selling of political influence is big business in the United States of America. It always has been. That's not changing any time soon. God bless America.

If conservatives/Republicans have a problem with it? Then the capitalist solution is not government intervention, but rather good old-fashioned competition. Conservatives/Republicans with deep pockets should seek out like-minded engineers to construct a social networking platform, which will bend to the influence of the Republican Party, and compete with Twitter for membership.

The GOP is still the party of limited government intrusion with a free market economy, right?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That's called influence, and like it or not, there is nothing illegal about it. The buying and selling of political influence is big business in the United States of America. It always has been. That's not changing any time soon. God bless America.

If conservatives/Republicans have a problem with it? Then the capitalist solution is not government intervention, but rather good old-fashioned competition. Conservatives/Republicans with deep pockets should seek out like-minded engineers to construct a social networking platform, which will bend to the influence of the Republican Party, and compete with Twitter for membership.

The GOP is still the party of limited government intrusion with a free market economy, right?
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But but….. I was going to vote for Hillary until I saw some Russian ads on Facebook that told me to vote for Trump.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Conservatives/Republicans don't have the right to Twitter membership, any more than Gator fans have the right to VolNation membership.

Laws protecting free speech aren't enacted and enforced in the United States of America based on how @Rasputin_Vol defines the right to free speech. Laws protecting an American's right to free speech are enacted and enforced in this country based on how the United States Constitution defines the right to free speech under the 1st Amendment. Once again, it matters that Twitter is privately-owned. Under the law, having influence over a private business's activities is not the same thing as having an ownership stake in that same private business.

You are whining over what you perceive to be the unfairness of Twitter's bias in favor of liberal policies and the Democratic Party, but Jack Dorsey has just as much right to be biased in favor of liberals as Freak has to be biased in favor of the Tennessee Volunteers. If conservatives/Republicans don't like that bias, then they should start their own social media platform and compete against Twitter. If there aren't any conservatives/Republicans skilled enough to do that, then that is their problem... not Jack Dorsey's.
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What Ras is complaining about is the federal government pressuring or outright threatening a company like Twitter to do it's bidding and silence it's critics.
 
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hog88 said:
What Ras is complaining about is the federal government pressuring or outright threatening a company like Twitter to do it's bidding and silence it's critics.
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Just like in my post up above ^^^^..... the solution to your whining is found in competition, not more government regulation. You want to put the same people responsible for your problem, in charge of solving the same problem? That's no good. Increased competition is the answer to just about every problem which can be identified in a free market economy.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Just like in my post up above ^^^^..... the solution to your whining is found in competition, not more government regulation. You want to put the same people responsible for your problem, in charge of solving the same problem? That's no good. Increased competition is the answer to just about every problem which can be identified in a free market economy.
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Absolutely agree that increased competition is part of the answer but the other part is preventing the government from using private businesses to silence it's critics.
 
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hog88 said:
Absolutely agree that increased competition is part of the answer but the other part is preventing the government from using private businesses to silence it's critics.
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This is America. You can't stop political influence from being bought and sold. You can combat the information you don't like, with information you do like. That's where competition comes into play.

I really think that the biggest problem that Republicans have, is that their side simply doesn't possess the same degree of cyber-technology skill, that we see from liberals in Silicon Valley. Republicans don't compete, because they can't.
 
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luthervol said:
I think we can safely conclude that you think Trump was better than Biden and I think Biden (or a rock) is better than Trump.
And I think we can safely assume that nothing is going to change that.
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At least with Trump, I could actually afford gas and food. That was nice. Good times, good times.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is America. You can't stop political influence from being bought and sold. You can combat the information you don't like, with information you do like. That's where competition comes into play.

I really think that the biggest problem that Republicans have, is that their side simply doesn't possess the same degree of cyber-technology skill, that we see from liberals in Silicon Valley. Republicans don't compete, because they can't.
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Never change BB, never change.

If an R was in office and pressuring twitter to silence their critics you'd be up in arms.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
At least with Trump, I could actually afford gas and food. That was nice. Good times, good times.
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I'm sorry you can no longer afford food. Luckily, there are programs in place to help you get back on your feet.
 
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hog88 said:
Never change BB, never change.

If an R was in office and pressuring twitter to silence their critics you'd be up in arms.
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Why was Green silenced?
If a D was spreading blatantly false and potentially dangerous information - I would hope they would be removed from the platform.
 
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Regarding Twitter bans from a purely pragmatic standpoint….all banning the spreading of misinformation or conspiracy theories does is strengthen the perception that the conspiracy is real. It is a self reinforcing process. For the really stupid stuff, much better to leave it out there and ignore it. Even if Twitter isn’t technically subject to free speech protections, the same philosophical reasoning still applies. The best solution for problmatic speech is in fact more speech. Let idiocy be subject to the full light of day. Pushing it underground only strengthens it.
 
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hog88 said:
Go to the Putingate threads, hundreds of posts contain linked blatantly false tweets.
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If Twitter ever deemed them blatantly and knowingly false and potentially dangerous, then they should have banned them.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Conservatives/Republicans don't have the right to Twitter membership, any more than Gator fans have the right to VolNation membership.

Laws protecting free speech aren't enacted and enforced in the United States of America based on how @Rasputin_Vol defines the right to free speech. Laws protecting an American's right to free speech are enacted and enforced in this country based on how the United States Constitution defines the right to free speech under the 1st Amendment. Once again, it matters that Twitter is privately-owned. Under the law, having influence over a private business's activities is not the same thing as having an ownership stake in that same private business.

You are whining over what you perceive to be the unfairness of Twitter's bias in favor of liberal policies and the Democratic Party, but Jack Dorsey has just as much right to be biased in favor of liberals as Freak has to be biased in favor of the Tennessee Volunteers. If conservatives/Republicans don't like that bias, then they should start their own social media platform and compete against Twitter. If there aren't any conservatives/Republicans skilled enough to do that, then that is their problem... not Jack Dorsey's.
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Great post.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That's called influence, and like it or not, there is nothing illegal about it. The buying and selling of political influence is big business in the United States of America. It always has been. That's not changing any time soon. God bless America.

If conservatives/Republicans have a problem with it? Then the capitalist solution is not government intervention, but rather good old-fashioned competition. Conservatives/Republicans with deep pockets should seek out like-minded engineers to construct a social networking platform, which will bend to the influence of the Republican Party, and compete with Twitter for membership.

The GOP is still the party of limited government intrusion with a free market economy, right?
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No s^^t.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
If conservatives/Republicans have a problem with it? Then the capitalist solution is not government intervention, but rather good old-fashioned competition. Conservatives/Republicans with deep pockets should seek out like-minded engineers to construct a social networking platform, which will bend to the influence of the Republican Party, and compete with Twitter for membership.
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You see how Apple, Google and Amazon were able to work together (collude) to have Parler shut down for a while last year? They removed the Parler app from the Apple store and Google store and Amazon removed them from their web hosting service.
 
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utvolpj said:
It's actually not since he ignores the fact that Twitter is taking direction from the govt. They also tried to start their own platform but we're shut down by the same direction from the us govt. That's when it gets into 1st amendment territory
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No, I didn't. It's political influence, and it's perfectly legal.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is America. You can't stop political influence from being bought and sold. You can combat the information you don't like, with information you do like. That's where competition comes into play.

I really think that the biggest problem that Republicans have, is that their side simply doesn't possess the same degree of cyber-technology skill, that we see from liberals in Silicon Valley. Republicans don't compete, because they can't.
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Wait... now you are making the assumption that something is being exchanged between the White House and these social media companies. Even I didn't make that claim. I was simply saying the White House was influencing/coordinating with the social media companies. I said nothing about an exchange of money.

Sounds like you are a bit more cynical than I am, but this does give us something to ponder.
 
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