War in Ukraine

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landscapingvol said:
The last Canadian soldier withdrew from Afghanistan in 2014 nearly eight years ago and committed no combat troops in Iraq. Meanwhile, Australia committed throughout the entire campaign as well as the War in Iraq just like the British. As stated, Canada's role as The major US ally is factually incorrect
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Canada’s special forces involved in major assault on Islamic State in Iraq last month

I wonder if Canada is aware that they aren't an ally in our global war on terror.
 
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Jeebus, is Biden trying to start WW3?

And, I guess we are going to reopen the pipeline? He said any and all means to alleviate our energy crisis.
 
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Septic said:
How does any of this translate into a punked Biden?

Again, what is your winning scenario wherein Biden doesn't screw this up? Fight or concede?
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Biden...Intell...media...all had a part of fanning the flames that impending WW3 was looming...due to troop movements for joint drills in Belarus and on the Ukrainian border.

Ukraine intelligence and Lezensky claimed that these were exaggerated, if not outright untrue...

I don’t think he has much choice to concede...jmo.
 
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CBS now reporting this potentially could expand into Moldova. Fox was the first to report this.
 
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Pacer92 said:
Biden...Intell...media...all had a part of fanning the flames that impending WW3 was looming...due to troop movements for joint drills in Belarus and on the Ukrainian border.

Ukraine intelligence and Lezensky claimed that these were exaggerated, if not outright untrue...

I don’t think he has much choice to concede...jmo.
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If they hadn't, they'd have been accused of not doing enough to warn or stop.

Can you just be intellectually honest and say that nothing Biden does is going to get a thumbs up? There's no scenario in which Biden won't get sh*t on by his detractors for something so completely out his control.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Is he really, though? I've heard reports that troops may be actually strengthening their positions.
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True, he is hard to trust but I think rationality is starting to rule the situation. I expect some kind of compromise that will make Putin look good at home but avoid war.
 
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Freiwillige said:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...s_returning_to_russia_on_a_regular_basis.html

Democrat politicians got the "Invasion is immanent" memo.
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Provided USA and NATO don't join the war and Russia invades, I expect the Ukrainian Army to roll over and then it is kind of up in the air:

1. Either the Ukrainians will start a major insurgency similar to what USA faced in Afghanistan/Iraq. That seems to be the common strategy in war now for the weaker nation. It works well against the USA since the USA strives to follow human right laws/Geneva convention (we are not perfect, no one is, but we make attempts in our strategy). Insurgencies wouldn't work if countries just bomb cities into oblivion and gave no regard to Geneva convention and behaved like Ancient Rome, Greece, Assyria, Mongolia, etc.

2. Ukrainians put up no resistance and Ukraine becomes a Russian puppet similar to how Afghanistan basically just caved to the Taliban

I am not sure which happens.
 
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Burhead said:


CBS now reporting this potentially could expand into Moldova. Fox was the first to report this.
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That seems a little far fetched, Moldovia offers little of value to Russia and they already occupy the little piece that has Russian people. Belarus is already a Russian puppet so no value in invading them either.
 
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Ukraine will put up a good fight. If they can just hold Kiev for a month and kill 5000 to 10000 Russians Putin stands a good chance of being removed from within. Russia's conventional arms are not top of the line and I can't believe the Russian soldier has a great will to fight this war.
 
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hog88 said:
Ukraine will put up a good fight. If they can just hold Kiev for a month and kill 5000 to 10000 Russians Putin stands a good chance of being removed from within. Russia's conventional arms are not top of the line and I can't believe the Russian soldier has a great will to fight this war.
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This idea that Putin stands ANY chance of being removed from within is just pure fantasy land.
 
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Septic said:
If they hadn't, they'd have been accused of not doing enough to warn or stop.

Can you just be intellectually honest and say that nothing Biden does is going to get a thumbs up? There's no scenario in which Biden won't get sh*t on by his detractors for something so completely out his control.
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The Ukraine scenario is hardly Biden’s fault. I don’t blame him. He assumed this mess from the last two presidents....mainly the Obama administration..
 
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headhunter15 said:


I am not for intervention, but can America and NATO stand by and watch this unfold.
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I will say this, though, if Russia can pull that off, they are about back to the same level of power and prestige that they were in in the Soviet Union era. The two biggest losses to Russia were Belarus and Ukraine. Get both of those nations back and they are up to a population of over 250 Million and have most of their industrial base and mineral resources back in their Empire.

If I was ruling Russia, I would want Belarus and Ukraine back.

The negative is that if Putin does this, he is going to have regions full of mostly hostile populaces that were forced under his rule and insurgency could very well be likely and make it very difficult to hold.
 
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Pacer92 said:
The Ukraine scenario is hardly Biden’s fault. I don’t blame him. He assumed this mess from the last two presidents....mainly the Obama administration..
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Or it could very well be that this is no President's faults. It could just be that Russia is a challenging aggressor and challenger to us in the World Stage.
Sure, Russia doesn't look that strong from a GDP/Economic standard but they are still the largest country land-area wise, have over 150 million people, and have a fairly modern military, probably the second strongest military after the United States (I would still put Russia ahead of China right now because their missiles, aircraft, and other military tech is stronger).
 
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Vol423 said:
This idea that Putin stands ANY chance of being removed from within is just pure fantasy land.
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I don't think so. An invasion of Ukraine will make Russia an international pariah facing stiff sanctions. Putin and his supporting oligarchs are fine with this because they expect a quick win with minimal losses and western Europe caving in a month or 2. With a bloody extended war turning internal public opinion even further away from Putin I could see him being removed.
 
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volbound1700 said:
That seems a little far fetched, Moldovia offers little of value to Russia and they already occupy the little piece that has Russian people. Belarus is already a Russian puppet so no value in invading them either.
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Agreed on Belarus. Makes no sense.

Moldova I could see though. Putin loves connecting him some borders.
 
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