War in Ukraine

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DonjoVol said:
So you're against child labor laws? Or laws enforcing safety? Are you against the health department performing restaurant inspections? I think that you are wanting to promote is some form of anarchy with business owners to be at the top rung of society. Libertarians aren't anti government.

A violation of the NAP would be a business owner wanting to force medical treatment on employees.

Libertarians are anti-intervention in foreign affairs and foreign conflicts. A real libertarian wouldn't be on here cheering our involvement in Ukraine.
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You’re all over the place here. No I support none of the things you’ve mentioned. I do not support child labor laws (harms the poor). I do not support health department inspections (that can be done by private parties). I don’t think I’ve ever cheered our involvement and I’m very on the fence about it.

No businesses having standards does not violate the NAP because you have no right to dictate terms to them. You’re welcome to negotiate and find terms you and your employer can agree to. But you no right to force them to accept you. You either both agree or you find a new job.

Any other option would involve forcing one party. That force against another individual is a violation of the NAP.

The idea of libertarianism is that government’s only purpose is to protect natural rights (life, liberty, property, freedom of association). You can’t openly support government taking the freedom of businesses to associate with whoever they wish and proclaim to be libertarian or to be promoting a libertarian stance.
 
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Y'all see this?

More than 75,000 Russian soldiers have been killed or injured in the war in Ukraine, according to new classified US intelligence, a loss equivalent to almost the entire British army.

If accurate, the figure would equate to half the 150,000 Russian troops reported to have been committed to the Ukrainian invasion, a staggering figure that points to an “exceptionally deadly war”, according to analysts.

“We were briefed that over 75,000 Russians have either been killed or wounded, which is huge, you've got incredible amounts of investment in their land forces, over 80 per cent of their land forces are bogged down, and they're tired,” Rep. Elissa Slotkin of Michigan, a Democrat who serves on the House Armed Services Committee and recently visited Ukraine, told CNN. “But they’re still the Russian military.”
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The US is occupying NE Syria at this very moment. Israel has grabbed portions Palestinian territory one settlement at a time... I'll give them a pass on the territory they gained in 6 Day War.

But even with annexation, you fail to see that Russia was acting in response to NATO actions. Had NATO not made moves in Georgia and Ukraine, we would have peace in our times right now.
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The US presence in Syria isn’t an annexation. It’s peace keeping in a failed state. Big difference. The Israel thing is a long hot mess that probably deserves its own thread.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
No, Ukraine does not have nuclear weapons, nor have they called for the annihilation of Russia as far as know.

But NATO state members do have nukes and there are several groups/think tanks within NATO that have called for the break up of Russia. Ukraine was going to be used as a final staging ground for some sort of military action in the future to make that possible. It is quite clear that NATO moving east was not a defensive measure, but an offensive measure specifically aimed at going after Russia. No one can deny this.
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That’s very conspiracy theorist if you. I’d venture to say that Putin is a Neo-Imperalist. He believe Russia still has claim to all land that used to be the USSR. He has openly stated as much. NATO membership is voluntary. Countries have to apply. So when the Baltic countries, the Scandinavian countries, or even Ukraine wants to join, it’s generally because their neutral status is being threatened by Russia…
 
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DonjoVol said:
What similar characteristics do they all have? How are Ainu, Tibetans,, Uiygur, Yonaguni, and Atayal people all the same? Please provide specific examples and how they are all related. Thanks.
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You can examine the skulls of these races and determine race if I am not mistaken. Here is a good example for you: All Asian peoples have high cheekbones, including native Americans. People from the white race do not.
 
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SergeantVol said:
The US presence in Syria isn’t an annexation. It’s peace keeping in a failed state. Big difference. The Israel thing is a long hot mess that probably deserves its own thread.
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It’s got at least one thread on its own but Ras can’t do his usual whataboutism dumbassery if he only keeps his discussions on his hatred for the Jews in that one thread.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Only a few? Wow you are really showing your ignorance about the multiculturalism that exists in Russia.

Russians are their own separate race of people. Just like Ukrainian, Abkhazian, Georgian and Ossetian people are.

You're right. Jehovah Witnesses have been discriminated against in several countries. There was even some discrimination they faced in so called democratic countries like the U.S., Canada, and France.
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Slavs are broken into three ethnic groups. Eastern, western, and southern. They all come from the same larger tribe. Your conflating culture and nationality with ethnicity.
 
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SergeantVol said:
That’s very conspiracy theorist if you. I’d venture to say that Putin is a Neo-Imperalist. He believe Russia still has claim to all land that used to be the USSR. He has openly stated as much. NATO membership is voluntary. Countries have to apply. So when the Baltic countries, the Scandinavian countries, or even Ukraine wants to join, it’s generally because their neutral status is being threatened by Russia…
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So you’ve never met Ras/Moe I take it?
 
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DonjoVol said:
Only a few? Wow you are really showing your ignorance about the multiculturalism that exists in Russia.

Russians are their own separate race of people. Just like Ukrainian, Abkhazian, Georgian and Ossetian people are.

You're right. Jehovah Witnesses have been discriminated against in several countries. There was even some discrimination they faced in so called democratic countries like the U.S., Canada, and France.
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Loooooooooool. Russians are their own race of people? You have confirmed, once again, your are a Russian propaganda troll plant.
 
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SergeantVol said:
As a an ethnic Jew and Roma, I welcome his his bigotry. Maybe opinions can change.
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Nah just point at, mock, and laugh at his dumbassery. Trust me it’s more satisfying. It’s really fun when you get a twofer out of him hating on the Jews while he’s stroking the Persians.
 
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Hmmm.... sure looking like Russian forces have culminated.

The official end of the pause was announced by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu on July 16. Here we are almost 2 weeks later and... Russia ain't done sh*t.

Rumor is Russia is moving troops from Donbas to Kherson to prevent UKR from taking it.

I'm thinking....

Ukraine drives a counteroffensive wedge to the SE to the coast towards Berdiansk. This cuts off Russian troops in Kherson from supplies from the East. Then, eeehhhhh, shockingly... UKR uses ATACMS from that position to take out the Kerch Bridge. Yeah... we're gonna give them these.

Voila.

Every Russian troop West of Berdiansk is cut off.

We're talking 20 battalions+ surrendering or die.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Change of narrative out of Moscow and that idiot Lavrov is now saying the quiet part out loud.

Russia says it wants to end Ukraine's `unacceptable regime'
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Now, even though this is Russia Today, this is a quote from Josep Borrels... so it isn't propaganda, but a quote directly from him. No one in the Global South, Asia, Africa or Latin America wants to talk to these clowns.

Cover me, not Lavrov – EU's top diplomat tells media

In an interview with Spanish radio station Cadena SER on Tuesday, Borrell touched on the Russian foreign minister’s recent tour of Egypt, DR Congo, Ethiopia and Uganda, saying: “Lavrov goes to Africa and tries to persuade the Africans that sanctions are to blame for all that’s happening... and the whole of the Western media repeats it.”

“I go to Africa to say the opposite, that sanctions have nothing to do with it, and nobody picks it up,” he lamented.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Now, even though this is Russia Today, this is a quote from Josep Borrels... so it isn't propaganda, but a quote directly from him. No one in the Global South, Asia, Africa or Latin America wants to talk to these clowns.

Cover me, not Lavrov – EU's top diplomat tells media

In an interview with Spanish radio station Cadena SER on Tuesday, Borrell touched on the Russian foreign minister’s recent tour of Egypt, DR Congo, Ethiopia and Uganda, saying: “Lavrov goes to Africa and tries to persuade the Africans that sanctions are to blame for all that’s happening... and the whole of the Western media repeats it.”

“I go to Africa to say the opposite, that sanctions have nothing to do with it, and nobody picks it up,” he lamented.
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Here is the whole quote. You’re welcome

“I go to Africa to say the opposite, that sanctions have nothing to do with it, and nobody picks it up,” he lamented.

The EU foreign policy chief explained the attention Lavrov is getting, saying: “There’s a certain tendency to listen to the enemy, the adversary.”

“Lies circulate faster than the truth,” and because of this Brussels should “redouble” efforts to explain its stance to the public, he concluded.
 
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