War in Ukraine

[NorthDallas40]

Ah so when an entity show evidence against his claims with facts to back it up, he doesnt like it?

Not a bit.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Ah so when scholarly articles are written using peer review sources to corroborate information, you have an issue with it?

Also, go back earlier today to see my post about industrial warefare.

 

[SergeantVol]

You say that as we threaten to through Julian Assange in a hole for 150+ years if he extradited. Not to mention the amount of information that is memory holed or attacked related to COVID or Hunter Biden. But yet, we can trust them to give us accurate info regarding Ukraine... a country that our current POTUS had financial ties to.

I agree that our government shouldn't be suppressing information. Assange shouldn't be imprisoned and that the info on Hunter Biden's laptop should be made public along with the records of visitors to pedo island. But the lack of media coverage isnt evidence that the media is state controlled.

 

[DonjoVol]

Do you have an issue with their research methodology or their analysis based on available sources? With places like RAND, you tend to lose creditability if you don't cite empirical evidence to your argument/ analysis.

I've pointed out already that much of what they are pushing is a left wing agenda such as "climate change". Now tell us what sources they use specifically. Would you accept a scholarly article using sources that are factual but that you don't like?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

More Ahmadinejad hate...

 

[norrislakevol]

I pay attention and am fully aware that the media and our govt push narratives and rely on boogie men to generate support for their war campaigns. That has been this country's problem since December 7th, 1941. Or, to be honest, since the sinking of the Lusitania.

I see what you are saying here, but are you so naive to think that imperial Japan and Nazi Germany wouldn't have eventually threatened our shores? Guess that should have been a European and Asian problem back then. Japan would have eventually taken Hawaii and you know it.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I agree that our government shouldn't be suppressing information. Assange shouldn't be imprisoned and that the info on Hunter Biden's laptop should be made public along with the records of visitors to pedo island. But the lack of media coverage isnt evidence that the media is state controlled.

You don't even believe this.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I agree that our government shouldn't be suppressing information. Assange shouldn't be imprisoned and that the info on Hunter Biden's laptop should be made public along with the records of visitors to pedo island. But the lack of media coverage isnt evidence that the media is state controlled.

This is a common play by the stooges. They equate partisan western media to state controlled media in places like Russia, Iran, China, etc… and try to pass them off as no different.

 

[SergeantVol]

I've pointed out already that much of what they are pushing is a left wing agenda such as "climate change". Now tell us what sources they use specifically. Would you accept a scholarly article using sources that are factual but that you don't like?

Absolutely I would. Facts are still true whether I like them or not. I also acknowledge that science is always changing. Now information and theories are produced all the time. When I look at a topic I also look for information on both sides and apply critical thinking to it. I want to know that the information derived was as objective as possible.

 

[NorthDallas40]

You don't even believe this.

Yes he does. And I just made a post saying you would do exactly this response Moe.

 

[DonjoVol]

I’ve dropped Rand on Curly and Moe multiple times. An academic think tank writing well sourced research with detailed bibliographies doesn’t meet their high bar of proof like solid sources of RT, TASS, or ZeroHedge. I’m not actually joking here by the way it’s what they do.

Maybe it's because perhaps your ideology is now left leaning which is why you agree with Rand so much. Has that ever crossed your mind?

 

[SergeantVol]

This is a common play by the stooges. They equate partisan western media to state controlled media in places like Russia, Iran, China, etc… and try to pass them off as no different.

Well, when journalists are jailed for something they said, I equate that to state controlled. In our country, if a journalist spoke out, they may get fired and thats about the worst extent of consequences.

 

[DonjoVol]

Absolutely I would. Facts are still true whether I like them or not. I also acknowledge that science is always changing. Now information and theories are produced all the time. When I look at a topic I also look for information on both sides and apply critical thinking to it. I want to know that the information derived was as objective as possible.

Can you name some of the sources that they specifically use?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Maybe it's because perhaps your ideology is now left leaning which is why you agree with Rand so much. Has that ever crossed your mind?

Lol. You pegged me Curly. I’m a lefty

 

[NorthDallas40]

Well, when journalists are jailed for something they said, I equate that to state controlled. In our country, if a journalist spoke out, they may get fired and thats about the worst extent of consequences.

Yep. Our media are absolutely willing partners with their chosen political agenda and is shows in the bias of their work product. And that’s bad. But its a choice not a state order.

 

[DonjoVol]

Absolutely I would. Facts are still true whether I like them or not. I also acknowledge that science is always changing. Now information and theories are produced all the time. When I look at a topic I also look for information on both sides and apply critical thinking to it. I want to know that the information derived was as objective as possible.

By the way. I've posted some scholarly articles in this forum with proper citations and data to back up my point. However if it does not line up with someone's personal beliefs then they will never accept it. What Dallas is accusing Ras of, him and other people have done the exact same thing.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Can you name some of the sources that they specifically use?

Why don’t you just read the detailed bibliography in any of their published research Curiy. I know your addicted to the ZeroHedge circle jerk circular referencing scheme but actual unbiased research doesn’t just use a fixed list of sources.

 

[NorthDallas40]

By the way. I've posted some scholarly articles in this forum with proper citations and data to back up my point. However if it does not line up with someone's personal beliefs then they will never accept it. What Dallas is accusing Ras of, him and other people have done the exact same thing.

Lol and now you’re a victim again

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I see what you are saying here, but are you so naive to think that imperial Japan and Nazi Germany wouldn't have eventually threatened our shores? Guess that should have been a European and Asian problem back then. Japan would have eventually taken Hawaii and you know it.

Japan and Germany are no different now than they are today. Geography matters and doesn't change after 80 years. They are heavily energy dependent. And no way in hell either one of them would have been able to maintain the long supply chains needed to fight a serious war on mainland America or for that matter even Hawaii. They both would have had their hands full in Asia and Europe just maintaining order.

 

[norrislakevol]

Japan and Germany are no different now than they are today. Geography matters and doesn't change after 80 years. They are heavily energy dependent. And no way in hell either one of them would have been able to maintain the long supply chains needed to fight a serious war on mainland America or for that matter even Hawaii. They both would have had their hands full in Asia and Europe just maintaining order.

They would have grabbed Hawaii for sure. Japan did kill scores of American servicemen. I am sure you will try to justify them killing Americans, but in the end Japan made that decision, which cooked their goose.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Well, when journalists are jailed for something they said, I equate that to state controlled. In our country, if a journalist spoke out, they may get fired and thats about the worst extent of consequences.

Woodward and Bernstein got Pulitzer Prizes. Julian Assange is looking down the barrel of 3 life sentences. WTF is going through your mind right now?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

They would have grabbed Hawaii for sure. Japan did kill scores of American servicemen. I am sure you will try to justify them killing Americans, but in the end Japan made that decision, which cooked their goose.

I doubt they would have held on to Hawaii. And truth be told, what incentive would they have had to attack Hawaii outside of the oil embargo? In 1940/1941, Japan would have had all of their energy and resources tied up in China and East Asia. That would have been more than enough to keep them occupied.

 

[DonjoVol]

Lol and now you’re a victim again

Not a victim. Just stating facts.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Not a victim. Just stating facts.

No you stated your opinion again and played your victim card like I said Curly.

 

[MontyPython]

I wonder how the tarded-trio and their handlers see this storm that's about to sweep through Kherson. They haven't said much about it and may not even know it's brewing.

@volgr has defected. He gone.