War in Ukraine

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apevol said:
The history of race, a complicated topic in any context, is particularly challenging to understand in Russia. In Russia, the term “race” has never been an official or legal category the way it was, and is, in many other modern countries. The Russian Empire’s nineteenth-century census takers asked respondents about their religious confession, but they did not ask about race (rasa), ethnicity (narodnost’) or nationality (natsional’nost’). Later, Soviet officials favoured the new and all-important categories of class and nationality over race, a fact touted as one of the marks of communism’s superiority over its race-obsessed rivals in the fascist and...
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I wouldn't necessarily say they favored class and nationality over race. Many of the Soviet republics were still divided based on race. Also if you take a look at some other communist countries like North Korea, Laos, and Vietnam they are pretty racially homogeneous. All seem to also have a strong sense of nationality. Laos is also very strict on abortion laws. Not sure about North Korea and Vietnam. Stalin himself also wanted a ban put on abortion.

One could make the argument the capitalism is divided more on class than communism.
 
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norrislakevol said:
You act like the Taliban defeated us on the battlefield. They never in any way, shape of form did. There not good enough to and never will be.
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Yes they did, its all a battlefield. The bounds of the battlefield are not determined by you. What you are doing is the same thing the other stupid white people the Red Coats were saying when they eventually left Amercia back in the 1700s.

"King Georgia, they don't fight right"

No real objective was met in Afghanistan + Wasted lives + Wasted resources + broken promises to allies + Eventually couldn't stomach the occupation = LOSERS

"If he is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. "
"Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. "
"There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare. "
"Hence the saying: If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle. "
"To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. "
"Hence the saying: One may know how to conquer without being able to do it. "
"Security against defeat implies defensive tactics; ability to defeat the enemy means taking the offensive."
"By holding out baits, he keeps him on the march; then with a body of picked men he lies in wait for him. "
"You can be sure of succeeding in your attacks if you only attack places which are undefended.You can ensure the safety of your defense if you only hold positions that cannot be attacked. "
"By discovering the enemy's dispositions and remaining invisible ourselves, we can keep our forces concentrated, while the enemy's must be divided. "
"The spot where we intend to fight must not be made known; for then the enemy will have to prepare against a possible attack at several different points; and his forces being thus distributed in many directions, the numbers we shall have to face at any given point will be proportionately few. "
"So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak"

Just a few things from Art of War on this subject.

"All men can see the tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved."

No strategy going in, your army lost and did not achieve anything i.e. failure or lost. Its a all a battlefield. The whole strategy for Osama was to bait the United States into unwinnable wars, he did it with almost no money and a couple of dozen guys.

Just think of how many stupid white people died because of the other stupid white people. for no freaking reason. Rinse and repeat over and over. If you really think about it, its amazing white people still exist, they have been busy sending white people on suicide missions since the time of the crusades.

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LSU-SIU said:
Yes they did, its all a battlefield. The bounds of the battlefield are not determined by you. What you are doing is the same thing the other stupid white people the Red Coats were saying when they eventually left Amercia back in the 1700s.

"King Georgia, they don't fight right"

No real objective was met in Afghanistan + Wasted lives + Wasted resources + broken promises to allies + Eventually couldn't stomach the occupation = LOSERS

"If he is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. "
"Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. "
"There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare. "
"Hence the saying: If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle. "
"To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. "
"Hence the saying: One may know how to conquer without being able to do it. "
"Security against defeat implies defensive tactics; ability to defeat the enemy means taking the offensive."
"By holding out baits, he keeps him on the march; then with a body of picked men he lies in wait for him. "
"You can be sure of succeeding in your attacks if you only attack places which are undefended.You can ensure the safety of your defense if you only hold positions that cannot be attacked. "
"By discovering the enemy's dispositions and remaining invisible ourselves, we can keep our forces concentrated, while the enemy's must be divided. "
"The spot where we intend to fight must not be made known; for then the enemy will have to prepare against a possible attack at several different points; and his forces being thus distributed in many directions, the numbers we shall have to face at any given point will be proportionately few. "
"So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak"

Just a few things from Art of War on this subject.

"All men can see the tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved."

No strategy going in, your army lost and did not achieve anything i.e. failure or lost. Its a all a battlefield. The whole strategy for Osama was to bait the United States into unwinnable wars, he did it with almost no money and a couple of dozen guys.

Just think of how many stupid white people died because of the other stupid white people. for no freaking reason. Rinse and repeat over and over. If you really think about it, its amazing white people still exist, they have been busy sending white people on suicide missions since the time of the crusades.

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Your false and myopic view on Afghanistan is chuckle worthy.

But thanks for sharing. I love the internet for exposing me to a world of thinking I never thought technically possible in the first world.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Not my point. Which major battles did the U.S. lose on the battlefield? We didn't retreat because of tactical defeat. We left because we wanted to.
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You dont have to lose on the battlefield to lose the war.

Doesnt matter that we outgained the taliban. When the clocks struck zero we spent trillions of dollars and thousands of lives to replace the Taliban, with an even better equipped Taliban. That's defeat any which way you look at it. Had the afghani government stuck around or even split the nation with the Taliban we could claim success. But they folded way too fast to say we defeated the Taliban.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
And Britain didn't lose to the Americans, 100s of years of delusional stupid white people.... and you are proof they still haven't learned a damn thing. LOL
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Apples and Oranges but with the public education system of America being what it is I am not surprised by your lack of critical thinking or understanding.

(psst..your racism is showing.)
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
I always do. Thats why I'm not on here freaking out like some of you abut Russia Russia Russia!! Or "death cults", the "Fall of the West"..you know..Communist talking points..
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Lol. You have freaked out plenty and resorted to name calling on several occasions. Like I said. You should take your own "professional advice". Your fellow Ukrainian trolls should as well.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Apples and Oranges but with the public education system of America being what it is I am not surprised by your lack of critical thinking or understanding.

(psst..your racism is showing.)
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Its an apple to a rock, the rock in your stupid head. See, King George just didn't want his troops in America anymore, he had a military parade scheduled back across the pond. LOL

"Its not that King George couldn't defeat the Americans, he just didn't want to."

Delusional and stupid.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Its an apple to a rock, the rock in your stupid head. See, King George just didn't want his troops in America anymore, he had a military parade scheduled back across the pond. LOL

"Its not that King George couldn't defeat the Americans, he just didn't want to."

Delusional and stupid.
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Your words, not mine.

You have confused The US Revolution and the Global War on Terror, Afghanistan specifically. Why? I can only guess your mediocre to substandard education. But keep going because this is gold.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Lol. You have freaked out plenty and resorted to name calling on several occasions. Like I said. You should take your own "professional advice". Your fellow Ukrainian trolls should as well.
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Incorrect. I've outed you as a paid Russian troll and/or compromised westerner. That isn't name calling, that is fact.

If anyone is getting foamy mouthed with rage over anything...its not the anti Russia people here..

What hurt you the most? Exposing your tactics or exposing you in general?
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Your words, not mine.

You have confused The US Revolution and the Global War on Terror, Afghanistan specifically. Why? I can only guess your mediocre to substandard education. But keep going because this is gold.
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They lost, just like the United States has been losing all this stupid crap for 20+ years, heck, its really about 60 years. Only a stupid delusional person would think any of this is a win in the real world.

Your not gold, that has value... you're a rock.
 
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