War in Ukraine

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volgr said:
If Mexico started killing Americans living in Mexico, you don't think we would put an end to that real quick? Come on.
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Any Russian living in Ukraine should have went home to Russia. The Ukrainian rebels in the Donbas took their chance and were losing, I fully respect their right to rebel but it's a big gamble when you do.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Wow you’re reading comprehension really does suck.

Let me be clear. I categorically condemn the foreign policy body of work of John McCain. He was an uncureable Warhawk who needlessly dragged us into one bad situation after another. Is that clear enough for you Curly? Do I need to bust out crayons and picture books?
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Do I need to bust out the crayons and picture books for you? What led to the coup in Ukraine was his actions and the actions of other U.S. and EU politicians. As a matter of fact they admitted they wanted it to happen. And if you condemn the foreign policy work of McCain then you should easily be able to put the pieces of the puzzle together. Once you do then you will realize how wrong you have been. Just like I once was.

So I just provided one example of neo Nazis in Ukraine. Would you like more?
I can provide more on the involvement of McCain, U.S., NATO and the EU as well.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Oh sure sure... no Nazis in Ukraine.

Just curious, who actually does own the skull and crossbones? Are they the good guys or the baddies?
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Skull and crossbones (military) - Wikipedia

Depends on which side of the war you are on, but it seems like a bunch of people use it. The russians have in the past.

And yes, plenty of non Nazis have used it, or continued to use it after WW2.

Again you are trying way to hard.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I was talking about Svoboda here. Learn to stay on topic.

McCain gave a speech while the leader of Svoboda was standing next to him. Biden was also photographed taking pictures with the leader of Svoboda as well.

Speaking of blocking opponents from running. Zelensky's regime has already banned several political parties.
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I thought Biden was a commie? It's so hard to keep up.
 
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hog88 said:
Any Russian living in Ukraine should have went home to Russia. The Ukrainian rebels in the Donbas took their chance and were losing, I fully respect their right to rebel but it's a big gamble when you do.
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And all the Tennesseans and Kentuckians and others who went to Texas to fight against Mexico did so as Individuals citizens and not representative or members of the US military. Just as the westerners are doing now in Ukraine. Which is frankly dumb as under todays international law they are clearly unlawful combatants
 
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hog88 said:
Putin was causing the unrest and arming the pro-russian side in Donboas. Plus they weren't Russian, they were Ukrainians.
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You are a real genius. You have no idea about timelines or cause and effect. One more time for the people in the back of the class, there would have been no Russian intervention had it not first been US State Department intervention that resulted in the Kyiv coup. Had the coup not occurred, Donbas would not have had the desire to breakaway.

Either you really did sit in the back of the class growing up or you are just showing your anti-Russian bias and will find anyway you can to justify your flawed thinking.

Everything starts with the 2014 coup. That is where you timeline needs to start... at a minimum.

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You're worse than a woman about digging up ancient history during a disagreement. And just like a woman you are typically wrong or twisting the truth to fit your narrative. No US troops were sent to the Alamo.
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Why are you upset that I showed you one obvious example of the US intervening in the same manner as Russia is right now? What difference does it make if it was last year or 200 years ago?

I tell you what, I'll stop using the Texas revolution if you guys stop harping about Neville Chamberlain and appeasement. Because you all constantly use that as justification for not engaging in diplomacy.
 
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hog88 said:
Any Russian living in Ukraine should have went home to Russia. The Ukrainian rebels in the Donbas took their chance and were losing, I fully respect their right to rebel but it's a big gamble when you do.
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Those Russians have been living in that eastern part of Ukraine for centuries.

Most of Ukraine at one time belonged to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Until about 1795. I think it was also known as the Lithuanian- Polish Commonwealth. The region that didn't belong just happened to be much of the areas that Putin is occupying.

Then Ukraine was split up. Some of the western part belonged to Austrian Galicia at one point.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Okay. Once again what proof do you have that he was bribed?

So since Zelensky is very wealthy himself I can assume he's been bribed by the U.S. and EU?
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Lol! So his reward is in now way attached to his Russian agenda in Ukraine and ole Pootin just did that out of byte goodness of his black heart? Latest exhibit of Pootin nut hugging Curly. And again since you’re slow this is me pointing at and mocking your actions, clown.

I have no idea how Zelenskyy’s wealth compares today as before he took office or what his declared sources of income are. Since this is your assertion run along and gather your supporting data or STFU
 
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hog88 said:
Any Russian living in Ukraine should have went home to Russia. The Ukrainian rebels in the Donbas took their chance and were losing, I fully respect their right to rebel but it's a big gamble when you do.
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You sound silly. Those people had been living there one day under the USSR and one country and at the collapse of the USSR became citizens of Ukraine through no fault of their own. You know the history. You talking that BS about them just uprooting and leaving is the most ridiculous argument you have made... well, outside of saying that 900 troops isn't an invasion, or that Putin started the troubles in 2014 when we all know Obama's State Department was orchestrating things behind the scenes.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Do I need to bust out the crayons and picture books for you? What led to the coup in Ukraine was his actions and the actions of other U.S. and EU politicians. As a matter of fact they admitted they wanted it to happen. And if you condemn the foreign policy work of McCain then you should easily be able to put the pieces of the puzzle together. Once you do then you will realize how wrong you have been. Just like I once was.

So I just provided one example of neo Nazis in Ukraine. Would you like more?
I can provide more on the involvement of McCain, U.S., NATO and the EU as well.
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Sounds like you do Curly. Because any coup that happened in Ukraine would have been your favorite nut sack wielders
 
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LouderVol said:
I thought Biden was a commie? It's so hard to keep up.
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His policies are no different than George W Bush. Which is why I can also give him the neocon title.

At this point I'm not sure if communist would be an accurate term. Although the Communist Party here in the U.S. supported him there seem to be some other openly communist individuals that claim the democrat party has nothing to do with communism.
 
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hog88 said:
Of course I don't have proof that he was bribed, it is pretty obvious though.
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Look at this map of the 2010 election in Ukraine. See if any of this looks familiar to you. Yanukovich was hoping to play both sides against the other, but just as The West (US) always does, they place pressure on countries to pick one side or the other. Now looking at that map, it is just as likely that Yanukovich was also looking at what be the best benefit for the people that elected him, as well. Putin did play a part in changing his mind, but Yanukovich also had a duty to benefit those that elected him.


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DonjoVol said:
Firstpost? You guys are really bringing out all the reliable sources now lol.
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So he really doesn’t live there? Louder has dropped multiple links pointing to Yanukovych receiving his Pootin pay for his work in Ukraine. Just so we’re clear that is called a bribe
 
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