War in Ukraine

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LouderVol said:
Where did I call for the Russians to/should get my approval? I pointed out it isnt logical.

If Russia is nuking Ukraine, Russias troops arent in Ukraine. If Russia nukes NATO forces in Ukraine, NATO will respond and nuke Russian forces, no matter where they are.

It strange, it's only when outside forces threaten Ukraine or Taiwan that NATO starts arming them and dropping crap tons of money on them. It's almost like if the world was peaceful we wouldnt need NATO.
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Taiwan is much, much, much more important to the U.S. than Ukraine is. If China takes Taiwan then they control ridiculous amounts of the semi conductor and chip industry. Some folks think we have helped out Ukraine too much, well they haven't seen anything yet if China tries to launch an invasion on it's important neighbor.
 
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'The Dollar Is Once Again The World's Problem' - Chinese State Media Urges 'De-Dollarization' Amid Fed's "Financial Looting"

The editorial begins by noting that tomorrow's rate-hike will likely further strengthen the US Dollar, which "for many countries in the world," China says, "might be the beginning of another nightmare."
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"A super strong US dollar and the fall of other currencies will, to a certain extent, ease the scorching inflation in the US economy, but the world will have to pay for it."
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"As a widely popular phrase in the West goes, the US enjoys the exorbitant privileges created by the dollar and the deficit without tears, and used the worthless paper note to plunder the resources and factories of other nations...
... while the political elites in Washington boast of the "myth of the American system" and take credit for "alleviating the crisis," thousands of poor families around the world are being trampled by them."
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China started talking about "the problem" back in or around 2008, the last financial crisis.

"...The instability and fragility of international financial markets have once again become prominent. It is precisely at such times that the international community should be more determined to cooperate and build a reliable, systemic and long-term multilateral international financial system. This cannot wait."
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The issue is, there is no practical way of going from one system to the next without reset happening. There simply is no backup system. I think you will start to hear this more and more, and probably more than just Russia and China. Those countries have to decide whether its time for the shutdown or not, but with the shutdown will mean lots of liquidation. No way Asia feeds 4+ billion. They're not wrong about the rest, the West has enjoyed living good for not much for about 75+ years now.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Taiwan is much, much, much more important to the U.S. than Ukraine is. If China takes Taiwan then they control ridiculous amounts of the semi conductor and chip industry. Some folks think we have helped out Ukraine too much, well they haven't seen anything yet if China tries to launch an invasion on it's important neighbor.
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That one seems fairly easy, blockade and bomb the **** out of it.
 
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Velo Vol said:
War is one thing when the government is mostly sending the dead-enders from Siberia to the front. It's another when people around Moscow start paying the price.
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LSU-SIU said:
'The Dollar Is Once Again The World's Problem' - Chinese State Media Urges 'De-Dollarization' Amid Fed's "Financial Looting"







China started talking about "the problem" back in or around 2008, the last financial crisis.



The issue is, there is no practical way of going from one system to the next without reset happening. There simply is no backup system. I think you will start to hear this more and more, and probably more than just Russia and China. Those countries have to decide whether its time for the shutdown or not, but with the shutdown will mean lots of liquidation. No way Asia feeds 4+ billion. They're not wrong about the rest, the West has enjoyed living good for not much for about 75+ years now.
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They won't be replacing the dollar anytime soon. China is in deep doo-doo as it is in the long run, and everyone knows this. They can gripe in one hand and sh!t in the other and see which one fills up first.
 
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So Putin has ordered partial mobilization. Supports the illegal votes and considers Ukrainian occupied territory apart of Russia and any attempts to reclaim it will be allow use of nuclear weapons. Shoigu had also stated 300,000 reservists being called up.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
They are not being forced to do anything. Stop it.
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I considered this thread comedy gold because of the pro Ukraine crowd. However I was wrong. They have now officially turned it into a daytime soap opera. Eric Braeden would be proud if he saw this work.

I would like to see some actual proof though that they are being forced to vote and that the elections are a sham. Guess I'll be waiting awhile for that.
 
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norrislakevol said:
They won't be replacing the dollar anytime soon. China is in deep doo-doo as it is in the long run, and everyone knows this. They can gripe in one hand and sh!t in the other and see which one fills up first.
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They are not talking about a willful act to replace Brenton Woods II, they are saying the system is not generating enough new credit to fund the prior and hinting the dollar is probably done for. All systems based on interest have a very finite life span i.e. Math. Human can't supply or demand at an exponential rate forever, far from it.... it was time for a replacement in 2007-2009. Russia is talking about a willful act of disconnecting with currency being represented by resource exports. But the problem is, you can't just switch. Collapse, and at that point liquidation must occur. The system is so much bigger than 80 years ago (1930-1945 collapse, liquidation, and new reserve currency) that its hard to see anything functioning on any kind of level for everyone.

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China is crying uncle as the amount of new dollars is not enough to fund the global system. We're winding down on the life of the current one.

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There is no real way for humans to supply or demand at an exponential rate indefinitely... at about 60 years it starts to go vertical, even under simple interest it starts to go vertical.
 
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Warmongers argue we must protect Ukraine

Technically the United States is a republic, although with democracy type principles as checks. Warmongers caused this, warmongers got what they wanted, they will keep funneling the cash and weapons in until nothing is left. Stop, go on to the next target (rinse and repeat), which looks like Taiwan.

Some stuff I like about her and some stuff not so much. Wait till she finds out that is exactly what they are trying to do in the United States.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I considered this thread comedy gold because of the pro Ukraine crowd. However I was wrong. They have now officially turned it into a daytime soap opera. Eric Braeden would be proud if he saw this work.

I would like to see some actual proof though that they are being forced to vote and that the elections are a sham. Guess I'll be waiting awhile for that.
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Since Russia refused to allow third party's to witness and verify, we'll all be waiting for proof. I guess we'll just have to accept the Russian installed leaders who are suddenly rushing to 'referendums' in warzones where citizens must walk around mass civilian graves created by their occupiers' to vote without fear of reprisal.

It's pathetic that Russia has to resort to this. Even sadder is they're going to declare they now own the land and won't have the capability to kick Ukraine out.
 
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MontyPython said:
Our debt % is less than it was 80 years ago.

Yet here we are. Leaders of the free world and richest country anywhere.

Don't let the morons here get to you.
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The morons are the ones in charge who dont actually decrease the debt during the good years. Government is the biggest religion out there these days, sacred cows every where, and the pork cant be touched.
 
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