War in Ukraine

[FLVOL_79]

The Russians lost more people in two weeks than the US did in 20 years in Afghanistan. The Ukrainians also lost more people in two weeks than the US did in 20 years in Afghanistan. The difference is either the Russians or the Ukrainians will emerge victorious, but the US military lost in Afghanistan.

It's well-documented Omar was wounded four times as a commander on the front line. I thought it was especially funny when Americans called Omar a coward and he challenged Tony Blair and US military veteran George W. Bush to a two-on-one duel using Kalashnikovs, but Bush and Blair refused to go. Andrew Jackson definitely would've gone and dueled one-on-one, but 21st century Americans aren't cut out of the same cloth as 19th century Americans.

The fact that I'm a US citizen under the age of 90 is what precludes me from making any valid points about how a military functions, since no American under the age of 90 knows how one actually works. The US military did manage to kill one elite soldier in Afghanistan, Pat Tillman. And US soldiers in Afghanistan won thousands upon thousands of medals when nobody in the Taliban won a single medal for anything so Americans have all the medals and all the "Five Star Hearts," but the Taliban won the war.

 

[FLVOL_79]

They sure scored a lot of battlefield victories against us didn't they?

The U.S. military crushed the Taliban and it wasn't even close. The defeated Taliban ran away while we spent trillions building schools and forming a government. Stupid 1940's style American thinking.

I have news for you though; if we had a small force over there still then the Taliban wouldn't have been able to just walk back into where ever they wanted to with out opposition. We'd still be there after close to a generation and still have our "victory". They had no way to defeat the U.S. military, so they had no choice but to sit, sulk, and wait for us to get tired of hanging out in their God forsaken country after we had beaten them.

This is exactly it. Remember when Afghanistan was the modern "Forgotten war"? Thats partly because the Taliban was crushed so fast and by so few troops that we just hung out there for years doing "nation building" and not much else was going on. Sadly, no matter what leadership we have in place they believe all people can benefit from US assistance and be brought into modern times. That never applies to third world countries, and especially third world muslim countries. So the US stayed their trying to change their warped minds, training their borderline retarded people in everything, gave them the keys and left. And they crashed the car before even getting out of the driveway.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Your post reminds me of something that happened back in 2003. I was in line at the Super Wal-Mart in Gallatin when the lady in front of me looked at me nervously a couple of times before asking me, "Should you be wearing that?" I didn't know what she meant at first. I thought maybe she meant that my jeans were too tight in a Robert Plant sort of way. I joked, "Why? Should I take them off?" She said something to the effect of, "We're at war against the terrorists, and you're wearing that terrorist script. And the beard and... I don't know. It just seems wrong when the rest of us have to worry about Saddam Hussein sending people here to kill us." I was wearing a t-shirt that I had bought when I was in Tel Aviv, and it had Hebrew on it. I pointed at the beer in my shopping cart and said, "Ma'am, I'm buying beer." I wasn't offended by the woman. I could only pity her.

Your post doesn't offend me. It only elicits pity. You and others actually believe the highest level of the Russian government sent Rasputin_Vol to sign up on Volnation in 2007 and sent me to sign up on Volnation in 2010 as paid spies in order to post Russian propaganda in a 2022 war in Ukraine. That's what you believe. Much like the lady at the Gallatin Wal-Mart, you and others on here have been brainwashed to the point of having full-blown schizophrenic episodes. But if I had never been anywhere and had spent my whole life in the back hollers of Hancock County with CNN and Fox being my only windows to the outside world, would I not be equally as brainwashed and paranoid?

Lol, Ivan, you're lying to yourself.

 

[evillawyer]

 

[evillawyer]

 

[MontyPython]

Ahhhhh... the true story about the disappearance of LSU-SIU revealed.

Didn't expect her to be blonde...

 

[FLVOL_79]

No, they're fighting for it all right, and the Ukrainian government forces even have transgender American journalist Sarah Ashton-Cirillo tagging along with them, the dude with the crooked blonde wig whose talking points you guys always parrot.

Interesting take.. Had to google this dude since I had no idea who they are. 99% chance you are the only one outside of Ras, Donjo, SIU, and Volgr that know who this tranny is.
Hell, come to think of it the only journalists I can even name is Robin Meade and Liana Brackett (meteorologist not really a journalist but smoking hot).

The trannys talking points. What are they? What network on they on? Or is this social media based only? You grabbing this from your pro Russia TikTok or telegram sources? I only ask because if you aren't any bought and paid for troll I'd love to know where you get your information so I can check it out. I enjoying seeing how the other side of the coin operations so to speak.

I will say this, what bothers you is very few inside America share your opinion, or you can't convince them to share your opinion. That generally means you're wrong. You think they are brainwashed by the media and you have all the right information from the right sources. That makes you a conspiracist. Merge those two together and we have what we see in your posting history; Anti-American ramblings that go beyond the normal "angry at the government" American mentality. Your distaste for the US military can only stem from a few things. Either you didn't get in, you got kicked out, a service member "wronged you" at some point in your life, you're upset you can't get 10% off at Lowes, no one thanks you for whatever job you do or have done which has led to a huge self esteem issue, you're a GenZ kid with no concept of the world outside of your parents house, or you aren't an American.

It's pretty simple. Now I am not a licensed mental health professional but when my armchair diagnosis hits home I'd advise reaching out to a professional or, depending on your location, a local healer (I know counseling is all but nonexistent in for ex Soviet countries).

 

[FLVOL_79]

Ahhhhh... the true story about the disappearance of LSU-SIU revealed.

Didn't expect her to be blonde...

She looks like every Russian hooker I "conversed" with throughout Europe.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

The U.S. military crushed the Taliban and it wasn't even close.

You guys drank the whole jug of Kool Aid if you think we won in Afghanistan. That's pretty laughable.

 

[DonjoVol]

The Taliban won and the American military lost. Get over it and stop crying about it. I have.

I wouldn't say the American military lost. Our government lost the war.

But we should also ask. Did they ever intend to win in the first place?

People need to educate themselves and go back and watch Eisenhower's farewell address.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

The trannys talking points. What are they?

His talking points are exactly the same as yours, verbatim. You repeat his sayings and slogans because you obviously follow him on Twitter and agree with him.

very few inside America share your opinion, or you can't convince them to share your opinion. That generally means you're wrong.

Very few inside America thought the US military would lose in Afghanistan. I knew we'd lose. I didn't buy into the conspiracy theory that the Taliban did 9/11 or agree with the theory that the US military would win in Afghanistan if we just dropped enough pallets of $100 bills to pay the Taliban to not fire on our convoys. I knew the Taliban grew up in drastically harder conditions than we did, would be tough enough to outlast us the same way the Vietnamese did, and would still be in power after the war ended and after a lot of American money and lives were wasted.

I was also one of the few Americans who didn't buy into the WMDs in Iraq conspiracy theory. You did, because you're a conspiracy theorist. And you'll fall for anything. I didn't want all of those American flag-draped coffins to come home from Iraq by the thousands, but you got what you wanted so you can feel gratification about all those dead Americans. They're on you, bro. Between the two of us, one of us seems to want what's actually best for the USA, and it's obviously not you.

And now you're putting a foreign government ahead of your own family. You'll never see me ever say the USA should send even one cent, let alone tens of billions of dollars to a foreign government, because I'm an America Firster. I see Americans posting on facebook, talking about shortages and high gas prices in the USA and saying things like, "These are the sacrifices our families have to make for Volodymyr Zelensky." That's such a pathetic, beta attitude. That it's the prevailing sentiment in the USA doesn't make it any less pathetic.

 

[norrislakevol]

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You guys drank the whole jug of Kool Aid if you think we won in Afghanistan. That's pretty laughable.

When and where did the Taliban crush the U.S. military?

 

[evillawyer]

One of Russia's chief warhawks has purportedly volunteered. Doubt it's true.

 

[NorthDallas40]

When and where did the Taliban crush the U.S. military?

You have to remember here Goldilocks has zero reading comprehension. I mean look who liked his post. Game knows game when it comes to cluelessness and lack of comprehension

 

[JuicyBrucey]

I wouldn't say the American military lost. Our government lost the war.

But we should also ask. Did they ever intend to win in the first place?

People need to educate themselves and go back and watch Eisenhower's farewell address.

I agree the US government lost the war, but the military is government workers. I also agree about Eisenhower's farewell address and also recommend Smedley Butler's 1935 book War is a Racket.

 

[lawgator1]

His talking points are exactly the same as yours, verbatim. You repeat his sayings and slogans because you obviously follow him on Twitter and agree with him.



Very few inside America thought the US military would lose in Afghanistan. I knew we'd lose. I didn't buy into the conspiracy theory that the Taliban did 9/11 or agree with the theory that the US military would win in Afghanistan if we just dropped enough pallets of $100 bills to pay the Taliban to not fire on our convoys. I knew the Taliban grew up in drastically harder conditions than we did, would be tough enough to outlast us the same way the Vietnamese did, and would still be in power after the war ended and after a lot of American money and lives were wasted.

I was also one of the few Americans who didn't buy into the WMDs in Iraq conspiracy theory. You did, because you're a conspiracy theorist. And you'll fall for anything. I didn't want all of those American flag-draped coffins to come home from Iraq by the thousands, but you got what you wanted so you can feel gratification about all those dead Americans. They're on you, bro. Between the two of us, one of us seems to want what's actually best for the USA, and it's obviously not you.

And now you're putting a foreign government ahead of your own family. You'll never see me ever say the USA should send even one cent, let alone tens of billions of dollars to a foreign government, because I'm an America Firster. I see Americans posting on facebook, talking about shortages and high gas prices in the USA and saying things like, "These are the sacrifices our families have to make for Volodymyr Zelensky." That's such a pathetic, beta attitude. That it's the prevailing sentiment in the USA doesn't make it any less pathetic.

There's are two significant differences between those scenario and this one.

First, in both Iraq and Afghanistan the issue was not a superpower INVADING other countries, whereas Russia has invaded Ukraine.

Second, Russia has nuclear weapons and is an existential threat to the US. There is value in curbing their adventurism.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

She looks like every Russian hooker I "conversed" with throughout Europe.

Another blond transgender on Twitter. How many of these transdudes do you guys follow throughout Europe and on Twitter?

 

[volgr]

Who gives a **** that he was in a drag show? Also, I thought he was a Nazi. Guess that didn't stick, so on to the LGBTQ hate now.

He's not a Nazi, but he has facilitated their movement inside Ukraine during his time in office. Good video from a few years back showing a group of their Nazi ranks telling Zelensky how it was going to be.

 

[volgr]

They're going to be so mad that Germans aren't freezing this winter. They've been rooting for it all year.

They are already rationing energy and warning their citizens of blackouts during winter, but yeah, everything is fine.

 

[zeppelin128]

He's not a Nazi, but he has facilitated their movement inside Ukraine during his time in office. Good video from a few years back showing a group of their Nazi ranks telling Zelensky how it was going to be.

We can argue later.

It is the Third Saturday of October. Go Damn Vols!

 

[apevol]

One of Russia's chief warhawks has purportedly volunteered. Doubt it's true.

girkin started this whole mess

 

[NorthDallas40]

Russia putting those 50+ year old tanks to good use … as scrap metal.

Looks like half time is over and Russia is “receiving” again.





Kherson city coming in range of precision artillery shells.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

There's are two significant differences between those scenario and this one.

First, in both Iraq and Afghanistan the issue was not a superpower INVADING other countries, whereas Russia has invaded Ukraine.

Second, Russia has nuclear weapons and is an existential threat to the US. There is value in curbing their adventurism.

Are you actually saying the USA didn't invade Afghanistan and Iraq? That's an interesting theory and one I've never heard before. Russia has nuclear weapons, but so does the USA. Both countries send their militaries on stupid adventures that drain their treasuries while threatening the existence of other countries as well as their own.

 

[davethevol]

In a lot of ways we simply used the Russians in WW2 the same way we are using Ukraine now. We supported Russia as a means to destroy an enemy. It's hard to say what might have been in WW2 without the second front that helped destroy Nazi Germany. There's a distinct parallel to providing arms and supplies in a similar way to allow Ukraine to at least semi neuter a power that needs to go away forever. I guess the only thing better would have been a Sino - Soviet war with mutual self destruction.

That’s a great analogy. Many of us forget that the Ukraine is an incredibly corrupt country and probably not a good actor on the world stage, but they are fighting Russia so all is forgiven. I remember that they were suspected of being the country that supplied North Korea with its updated missile technology, not Russia or China. I also think they’ve shown how quickly they turn ungrateful with the insults thrown at Musk over Skylink. The West has to handle this carefully.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

When and where did the Taliban crush the U.S. military?

Afghanistan, 2001-2021. Next question.