War in Ukraine

[Rasputin_Vol]

So if southern Florida wanted Cuba to come in and wanted part of America that makes it ok? Seriously dude, listen to yourself.

Kosovo

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Who were these outside monitors and from where? Were they also at gunpoint? The elections were hastily done to legitimize their invasion and because Ukraine was taking it's land back in large sections at the time.


For what it's worth I wouldn't trust an election Ukraine had hastily manufactured under those conditions either.

The fact you see them and the ridiculous, simply unbelievable results as legitimate is comedy.

One of the observers that wasthere was a German who ended up getting in trouble back home for helping those evil Ruskies,

 

[KB5252]

Is the US attacking southern Florida and targeting Cubans living there? Have Cuban areas been denied the ability to hold referendums? You guys make these idiotic comparisons while leaving out all pertinent context.

Have they revolted and taken up arms against their country with Cuba training and arming them?

And you have the gall to condescend to me about leaving out pertinent information in context........ You're either not self aware or so pumped full of Putin baby batter you can't help it.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Why is it our business to get involved with a country whose leader has declared himself both President and Prime Minister? Sounds like we would be supporting a dictator. Let the people of Haiti solve this problem. It's not our place to get involved.

Its amazing that these guys actually are defending US intervention in Haiti. I actually expected some pushback.

 

[Rickyvol77]

People in this thread call Putin a dictator but also have the audacity to support dictatorships in Ukraine and Haiti. It's rather mind boggling.

I don’t support any dictator and putin is a fascist dictator as well.

 

[DonjoVol]

Its amazing that these guys actually are defending US intervention in Haiti. I actually expected some pushback.

Don't expect any pushback from the neocons and democrats in this thread. They clearly have identified who they are and are on the same page on this. They will support whatever the mainstream news and government tells them to support.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

We can spend blood and treasure all over the globe and spend all kinds of money here on illegal aliens and domestic deadbeats, but the Average Joe in America gets nothing.

U.S. grows frustrated over Europe’s delayed economic aid to Ukraine

International assistance has not proved enough to make up the gap. Zelensky on Wednesday said Ukraine needs as much as $38 billion in emergency economic help from the West for next year’s budget alone. That figure excludes the additional $350 billion the World Bank has estimated will be necessary for Ukraine’s long-term reconstruction once the war ends. The United States has disbursed $8.5 billion in economic aid and will disburse another $4.5 billion by the end of the year, while U.S. officials say the European Union has pledged 11 billion euros but only disbursed about 3 billion in loans.

 

[volgr]

Have they revolted and taken up arms against their country with Cuba training and arming them?

Huh, just magically decided to risk life and limb to revolt and take up arms against their government, who wasn't labeled the most corrupt Gov't in Europe, no, no, no, who was the bastion of freedom and democracy, so why would anyone ever consider revolting against such a gov't.

 

[volgr]

I don’t support any dictator and putin is a fascist dictator as well.

Ohh, a fascist dictator? That sounds even worse than being a dictator.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Ohh, a fascist dictator? That sounds even worse than being a dictator.

Well he is. You can defend his actions all you want but you can’t deny what he has done

 

[tvolsfan]

Ohh, a fascist dictator? That sounds even worse than being a dictator.

True, but it does explain why you’re a fan.

 

[tvolsfan]

I don’t support any dictator and putin is a fascist dictator as well.

They’re genuinely trying to fabricate an argument that we all support, care, or even think about the Haitian regime so they can pretend to claim hypocrisy.

Of course, we can just roll our eyes at the Zelensky arguments like usual.

 

[volgr]

True, but it does explain why you’re a fan.

Huge fan. Just plain dictators don't do it for me. It has to be a fascist dictator. Preferably one that rides horses shirtless.

 

[tvolsfan]

Huge fan. Just plain dictators don't do it for me. It has to be a fascist dictator. Preferably one that rides horses shirtless.

I didn’t make insinuations about your personal fantasies.

 

[DonjoVol]

Well he is. You can defend his actions all you want but you can’t deny what he has done

So is Zelensky and the current leader of Haiti. So you apparently have no problem with the U.S. supporting fascist dictators.

 

[Rickyvol77]

So is Zelensky and the current leader of Haiti. So you apparently have no problem with the U.S. supporting fascist dictators.

I don’t support them either so now where’s your strawman?

 

[DonjoVol]

I didn’t make insinuations about your personal fantasies.

I don't know if you have but other people have made it clear what they fantasize about when it comes to Putin, Trump and Lukashenko.

 

[DonjoVol]

I don’t support them either so now where’s your strawman?

Lol. I specifically recall you having absolutely no problem with Zelensky and the fascist Ukrainian regime banning political parties and having a state controlled media.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

They’re genuinely trying to fabricate an argument that we all support, care, or even think about the Haitian regime so they can pretend to claim hypocrisy.

Of course, we can just roll our eyes at the Zelensky arguments like usual.

There is no fabrication necessary, really. They had a stable govt (stable relative to Haitian terms) until we intervened...

Some Suspected Assassins of Haitian President Received US Training, Pentagon Confirms.

 

[tvolsfan]

There is no fabrication necessary, really. They had a stable govt (stable relative to Haitian terms) until we intervened...

Some Suspected Assassins of Haitian President Received US Training, Pentagon Confirms.

Some Colombians received training from the US military! Well it was obviously a Biden coup!

 

[volgr]

Well he is. You can defend his actions all you want but you can’t deny what he has done

I don't deny what he has done. Big picture, he has taken a broken Communist country and is building it back into a more Democratic, self sufficient and prosperous Nation. He also enjoys favorably polling. Is he Thomas Jefferson or George Washington? No, but he also isn't the "fascist dictator" western fake news portrays him to be.

 

[tvolsfan]

I don't deny what he has done. Big picture, he has taken a broken Communist country and is building it back into a more Democratic, self sufficient and prosperous Nation. He also enjoys favorably polling. Is he Thomas Jefferson or George Washington? No, but he also isn't the "fascist dictator" western fake news portrays him to be.

He unambiguously is at this point.

 

[tvolsfan]

Lol. I specifically recall you having absolutely no problem with Zelensky and the fascist Ukrainian regime banning political parties and having a state controlled media.

When countries are invaded and their existence is in question, they tend to frown upon treason.

 

[tvolsfan]

I don't know if you have but other people have made it clear what they fantasize about when it comes to Putin, Trump and Lukashenko.

Yes, they have.

 

[SlipKidVol]

Russia, Ukraine and Preventing Nuclear Holocaust