War in Ukraine

[volgr]

Yep site has. Specifically things like apartment buildings and business areas. Because since they are getting their asses handed to them by actual combat troops they’re gonna go pick a more even fight with a bunch of babushkas Larry.

Alright, I see you're back to trolling today.

 

[DonjoVol]

Never argued they dont exist.

Just pointing out they hold very little power in Ukraine, similar to how little power commies still hold in Russia.

I am sure you will claim X, Y, and Z as proof of nazism. But the parties that represent those causes dont hold a lot of power.

And the use of the Deaths head in a military uniform is not proof positive of nazism. But maybe you will post the previous Russian proof with the Sims cards.

Okay. Tell us why our current president and John McCain met with the leader of the neo Nazi Svoboda Party back in 2012 and 2014? Were they just fans? John McCain even stood next to him on stage when he was giving a speech.

I swear you guys will do anything to justify this proxy war.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Alright, I see you're back to trolling today.

Just playing off your lead Larry.

 

[NorthDallas40]

John McCain even stood next to him on stage when he was giving a speech.

I swear you guys will do anything to justify this proxy war.

 

[Septic]

Laying the ground for a false flag.

It's so obvious it's painful, the ultimate hail mary to save his ass at home.

It's got to be infuriating for the russian commanders learning of their operational plans from western media.

Hey, Ukraine is kicking the sh*t out of us and is about to easily over run Kherson, let's evacuate our officers, blow a dirty bomb and blame them. Because that would totally make sense for them to detonate a radioactive bomb in their own city, just before liberating it. Everybody will buy that? Right?

 

[Septic]

They don't to detonate a nuke to escalate. Do you guys even think before you post? The US/NATO need Russia to use a nuke to get their population behind a western escalation that will likely require boots on the ground as Western boots on the ground is the only thing standing between Russia and victory.

Stop talking.

No one takes you seriously.

 

[LouderVol]

We’re removing our second largest geopolitical foe from relevance that’s what. It also adds to security in Europe which thru NATO we’ve agreed to help defend and removes THE major arms exporter for the rest of the countries we wind up crossways with.

Playing devil's advocate it's also letting Russia see all its deficiencies without facing a real foe. They are playing with house money. Yeah its messy now, but unless they are real real dumb they will be able to learn from this.

Where an easy victory in Ukraine probably makes them more complacent and ensures their military doesnt clean house, leaving them vulnerable.

Not saying Russia does right the ship after this, but this gives them the evidence they would need to see what needs fixing.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Playing devil's advocate it's also letting Russia see all its deficiencies without facing a real foe. They are playing with house money. Yeah its messy now, but unless they are real real dumb they will be able to learn from this.

Where an easy victory in Ukraine probably makes them more complacent and ensures their military doesnt clean house, leaving them vulnerable.

Not saying Russia does right the ship after this, but this gives them the evidence they would need to see what needs fixing.

Russia is playing with house money? I’d argue they’ve gone Texas Hold’Em All In at this point. Or are on the brink of that.

 

[Vol Main]

Lol. You really have been brainwashed by the mainstream media and your political party. Ukraine has had an increasing neo- Nazi problem since at least 2012. Maybe sooner than that. Even your president Jim Crow Joe met with the leader of the openly neo Nazi Svoboda Party leader back in 2012. Even one of the democrat party's favorite far left publications in Forward magazine admitted it was a problem just last year.

You are parroting what you hear from the mainstream media and democrat party. The question is, why?

Wrong. I am aware of Nazi activity in Ukraine, past and present, sufficiently aware to have written about it as a real concern. My own concerns are tempered by other facts and placed into perspective, whereas you exaggerate the concern and overstate the Nazi influence in Ukraine like Russia's war propaganda. Again, the question is why? For whatever reason, you are behaving like a stooge for the Russians. Is it because you do not know any better or because that is what you are?

 

[volgr]

It's so obvious it's painful, the ultimate hail mary to save his ass at home.

Yep, just when Ukraine forces are at their weakest and Russia is at their strongest thus far in the conflict, bringing in 300K more troops...that is when they will decide to false flag a dirty bomb, according to the people in this thread who have been completely wrong throughout this conflict. Shocker.

 

[Septic]

You said Russia would use a nuke and blame it on Ukraine so they could escalate. Which makes zero sense.

That's because you don't understand what's going on.

 

[Septic]

Yep, just when Ukraine forces are at their weakest and Russia is at their strongest thus far in the conflict, bringing in 300K more troops...that is when they will decide to false flag a dirty bomb, according to the people in this thread who have been completely wrong throughout this conflict. Shocker.

They're so strong they've been advancing toward the rear.

Do you ever stop and think about the words that you say? A troll at least has a foot in the door of reality. If this is your idea of trolling, you aren't very good at it.

Seriously dude, the things you say are just dumb.

 

[volgr]

Yep, just when Ukraine forces are at their weakest and Russia is at their strongest thus far in the conflict, bringing in 300K more troops...that is when they will decide to false flag a dirty bomb, according to the people in this thread who have been completely wrong throughout this conflict. Shocker.

Another thing to add, compare Putin to Zelensky during this conflict. Who would be more likely to use a dirty bomb? Putin has been calm, restrained, and consistent throughout, whereas Zelensky has been quite the opposite.

 

[volgr]

That's because you don't understand what's going on.

And I would say the same of you.

 

[FLVOL_79]

No, US justification for war over the last few decades, is insane. Tell me how Russia would be wrong in using that justification to move on Alaska.

They'd be dead wrong. I'd enjoy watching it though. Talk to your superiors about another 3 day excursion..

 

[NorthDallas40]

As the invading orcs continue to get ran out of town in Bakhmut it looks like the annexation of Kherson is going according to Pootin’s master plan.

 

[volfanhill]

My 14 year old could explain himself better than you. Not only do you lack critical thinking skills but you can't even adequately explain your hypothetical scenario.

This isn't hard. Well not for most. Russia has been fear mongering about a dirty bomb by Ukraine. For weeks prior they have been openly discussing using a nuke themselves. I suspect they have been told this would be met with extreme action. So float the dirty bomb. Now they would have justification for escalating to using nuclear weapons. Only a freaking moron would fall for it. But I believe we know who on here would.

 

[NorthDallas40]

And I would say the same of you.

Yeah but he’s actually right while you are not Larry.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Another thing to add, compare Putin to Zelensky during this conflict. Who would be more likely to use a dirty bomb? Putin has been calm, restrained, and consistent throughout, whereas Zelensky has been quite the opposite.

One of those is right, consistent. Consistently bad because nothing says calm and restrained like continued targeting of civilian sites. I mean hell, yall aren't even trying to pretend they are accidents.

 

[volfanhill]

Another thing to add, compare Putin to Zelensky during this conflict. Who would be more likely to use a dirty bomb? Putin has been calm, restrained, and consistent throughout, whereas Zelensky has been quite the opposite.

Putin has not been restrained. He invaded Ukraine for zero legitimate reason. Every single bad thing that happens to him, his citizens, his solders, Ukraine, it's citizens, and it's solders is his fault . Period.

 

[Septic]

And I would say the same of you.

Objectively - Russia is losing ground and is in some places back to the pre-invasion border, despite having MONTHS building up forces on the border.

8 months in and they are retreating from Keherson.

These aren't opinions. This is fact.

For you to try and maintain that this equates to anything remotely approaching a "victory" reveals that you're either stupid or you have no earthly idea of the reality of the situation. Probably both.

 

[volfanhill]

One of those is right, consistent. Consistently bad because nothing says calm and restrained like continued targeting of civilian sites. I mean hell, yall aren't even trying to pretend they are accidents.

It's Ukraine's fault bc they just won't surrender. It's Russia right. Plus Zelensky wears short skirts

 

[Septic]

Putin has not been restrained. He invaded Ukraine for zero legitimate reason. Every single bad thing that happens to him, his citizens, his solders, Ukraine, it's citizens, and it's solders is his fault . Period.

As trolls go, he's not even good.

 

[volgr]

They're so strong they've been advancing toward the rear.

In the Kharkiv/Izyum area, that is true, although even there the progress by Ukraine has largely come to a stop and in some areas Ukraine is losing ground again. Around Kherson, Russia has reformed their lines to some degree and reinforced their lines, but these constant offensives by Ukraine has netted very little gain and HUGE losses. Now it is Ukraine who has overextended, is taking huge loses and has very little left in reserves (man or machines), meanwhile Russia has largely preserved their forces through tactical retreat in Kharkiv/Izyum front and now have 300k coming online. In no way is Ukraine winning. In no way will Ukraine win. They had a brief moment of success that western fake news media has completely blown out of proportion and mischaracterized, as they have throughout this ordeal. Come back to reality.

 

[Septic]

In the Kharkiv/Izyum area, that is true, although even there the progress by Ukraine has largely come to a stop and in some areas Ukraine is losing ground again. Around Kherson, Russia has reformed their lines to some degree and reinforced their lines, but these constant offensives by Ukraine has netted very little gain and HUGE losses. Now it is Ukraine who has overextended, is taking huge loses and has very little left in reserves (man or machines), meanwhile Russia has largely preserved their forces through tactical retreat in Kharkiv/Izyum front and now have 300k coming online. In no way is Ukraine winning. In no way will Ukraine win. They had a brief moment of success that western fake news media has completely blown out of proportion and mischaracterized, as they have throughout this ordeal. Come back to reality.

I didn't even bother reading this.